Zack Snyder's Justice League (Official Trailer)13930

Originally Posted by theCapraAegagrus
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Originally Posted by KatKomics
Thing is...Clark has and internal struggle(I'm a god!), Bruce has an internal struggle(my parents died ), Cyborg has an internal struggle (killed his mom? is mostly machine and is his fathers science experiment), Arthur has an internal struggle (not at home on land or in the water), Diana lost the love of her life..a guy she knew for a few weeks 100 years ago....maybe he was a much better guy than we saw on screen but 100 years seems like you could maybe move on. Seems like only guy with no internal struggle is Flash...but then this version of flash is an idiot who contributes nothing...WW can run in what seems like as fast as Flash (when the script calls for it), Supes can run as fast...this Flash appears to have no critical thinking skills so not even needed for that....and not even like knowledge/skill that the Bat doesn't have(Flash was a forensic scientist!) ..nope..no knowledge at all

That's a lot of brooding and struggling all around...maybe they should...you know...go to therapy or something before fighting evil today?

Even their costumes are brooding!! ok Bats is black...but all the colour pallet is darkened because this is a dark and foreboding outlook on heroes....and I'm sure that has it's place....it's just not for me (or it seems many, many, others)

Maybe you don't like characters overcoming personal adversity, but I certainly do. It's part of the reason that Iron Man was my favorite character in the MCU. He fought his demons and won - as did Captain America. Also, Thor overcame more personal adversity than any other character, IMO.

Originally Posted by KatKomics
hey, no!! I do like the overcoming personal adversity...the way in which the DCU tries to tell that story is not compelling or enjoyable for me to watch though...and that's fine (although disappointing).....just pointing out that my point of view is similar to many many folks out there and could be one reason the DC films are not as well received as other films.

Not meant as a personal affront to those that do enjoy these DC films just saying that it doesn't appeal to me and that while the MCU isn't the only way there must be a better way for DC to move forward to enjoy greater success.

Originally Posted by Jabberwookie
DC never seemed to have that singular focus. They tried, but when box office wasn’t what they expected, they lost focus.

Originally Posted by theCapraAegagrus

Snyder didn't create an "oh woe is me" alien. That - particularly - is not a matter of opinion. If you don't like the Superman that Snyder did create, then I agree our opinions differ. We also haven't seen the finale to Snyder's plan, so there's no correct way of asserting, "we get more and more darkness without the possibility that it will ever end".

Originally Posted by Towmater
All I’ve attempted to do is point out why I don’t like Synder’s movies. I’ve backed that up by pointing out large plot holes in the movies and provided examples of why I think the movies portray Clark, Jonathan, and Martha in ways that make no sense.

I get it, you think Zack Synder is the greatest filmmaker. You want to point to the 300 and say look here is proof. You forget or want us to forget that Miller wouldn’t sell the project unless it wasn’t changed and that Synder’s hand is forced to film it the exact way that Miller drew it.

Also, you never bring up, dare I type it, Sucker Punch. Oh, man, I typed it.

Originally Posted by Towmater
@theCapraAegagrus

In the reviews that I've read I don't think that I want to waste 4+ hours of my life on a movie that was described by one reviewer as "an oversized mess", by another reviewer as "supersized, super hopeless", or as another reviewer wrote..."director's cut isn't worth the three-year wait or the four-hour slog".

Somehow I think I'd rather spend time with my family doing something positive like play soccer or go hiking. That way I won't force myself to sit through something that sounds like a newer Stephen King book. You know, the ones that aren't edited and ramble along providing glimpses into things that don't have anything to do with driving the story.

I believe I have supported my views on a whiney, oh woe is me Clark. Maybe you can share with me how Sucker Pounch is a great movie or why I shouldn't be thanking Frank Miller for sticking to his guns and forcing Synder to provide us with a 300 that couldn't change the source material. You know, like the ending of the Watchmen or showing that Jonathan tells Clark "I don't know" when confronted with a question from Clark about letting school children die. The Jonathan in the comics would never do that.

Originally Posted by Darkseid_of_town
I guess I dont see the point in a discussion where noone else is allowed to form a differing view or opinion based on there own bias, likes and life experiences.
Isnt it possible that each one of us lives life differently, forms differing views, values and ideals based on their own merits and no two have to be alike?
If one could allow that possibility then its only one little tiny step more to realize that a differing view does not pose a threat to the view another might hold...in fact Einstein suggested once the most intelligent people are those who can hold as many differing views of the same issue as possible.