What is the value of this hulk 181?13928
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rckstr1253 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Does this hulk 181 still hold much value with the restoration that was done? | ||
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| eBay item #363294242963 | ||
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| . I don’t see anything with that number. |
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Redmisty4me private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Maybe post what was done so we can discuss? I've only sold one copy, but it was restored & went for quite a bit. |
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 I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this.
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| Here's CGC 8.5 Hulk 181 Restored. Not enough examples of 9.0's Where there's an amount on the right side that differs from the amount on the left; the right side is best offer accepted, the left was the asking price.  |
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| It apparently had a marvel value stamp glued in place. That was the restoration. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by rckstr1253 Oof! I'd avoid that like the plague, but even so, copies with the stamp missing can go for insane amounts. |
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| It presented nice but I’ve never seen a comic with restoration that involved only the marvel stamp being reattached with glue | ||
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 Masculinity takes a holiday.
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| Wow, this question just came up last week. We all figured it would be a green label "married" but maybe the Marvel Value Stamp was determined to be from the same book? Quote: Originally Posted by Redmisty4me @Redmisty4me I honestly don't understand why we have such an intense allergic reaction to something that will never be seen inside that slab. It's not like it's got dog poop on it. If the the label didn't say something, it's for all intents and purposes the same as any other slabbed 9.0. Sometimes I wonder, is it a legitimate negative reaction or is it just conditioning? I was conditioned to hate the PLOD, but now two of my favorite comic books that I own have moderate professional restoration. |
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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this.
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| I guess the argument could also be said about trimming, color touch, detached centerfold etc...if we don't know there's a problem then there is no problem. | ||
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| Also, C-1 means it was a very amateur job. B-1 is the highest I’d consider for submitting for restoration removal. |
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 I showed my wife and she was so happy for me she started to cry.
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| Just crack it out, cut out the stamp and where the glue was applied. Send to cbcs and get a notation on the label that the Mvs cut out, no purple label of death | ||
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 Thank you sir. May I have another?
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Quote:Originally Posted by GAC PGX |
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Quote:Originally Posted by EbayMafia Oh I have no problem with most disclosed resto - never have - or disclosed trimming (preferably done by the publisher), but anything cut out of a book is a huge issue; it's a major defect. |
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| To some of you collectors what would the value of a cbcs 4.0 sig graded signed by Stan lee, romita and trimpe be? | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by rckstr1253 It would depend on why it's a 4.0, eye appeal, etc. |
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| Forgive my ignorance on all this, but why does a restore seem to turn everyone off so much? I get wanting an original, like a car, but I’ve rarely seen anyone turn down a 65 mustang because it had a CD player or back up camera. It might not be as valuable as the cherry original, but it’s not garbage. If my choice is between a restoration and nothing, I’d probably take a restoration. Just my thoughts, but what am I missing here? |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Jabberwookie With you for the most part, but the age of the book, its scarcity, the nature of the underlying defects, & the quality of the restoration are all huge factors. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Jabberwookie I've purchased restored books and have no issues with it. I have a grail that has extensive restoration and a few other keys with minor restoration such as a small amount of glue that doesn't bother me. I draw the line on trimmed books. |
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| With encapsulated books, we have the presentation and the number grade. To me, the number is essentially a lie if the book is restored. I want to know exactly what I’m getting. If it’s like an Action Comics #1 or a Detective 27, I could probably live with it. Otherwise, it would bother me too much. |
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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this.
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| @Jabberwookie I think to many collectors restoration is similar to a re-print but more "deceptive" if you will. To me, restoration (colour touch especialy), professional or amateur has the feeling of this great piece of art being altered by an (for the lack of a better word) "inferior" artist. Depending on the extent of the restoration, the vintage piece of art morphs into something part vintange/part new, part master artist/part "inferior" artist. I think, restoration on vehicles is totally accepted because while these restored vehicles are works of art, they're also tools of sorts. They get you from point A to point B, they must be functional to be useful, with comics, that's not the case. I'm definitely softening on restoration. It used to be a definite no-go but now I'm ok (to an extent) with restoration on GA books..not so much on anything after that. |
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 I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers).Splotches is gettin old! |
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| I recognize there is zero way of knowing for sure what I'm about to say, but I do consider it when purchasing for myself: On Golden Age books it doesn't bother me if that restoration occurred during that time period. Little Joey coloring in a little damage to keep his comic nice is a huge difference than a professional color touch restoration on a golden age book done today. It gets cloudier and cloudier as time periods proceed, but it is certainly not acceptable to me for a Modern under any circumstances. Not so in 40's, 50's and probably early 60's. This all said, I think its reasonable to assume the marvel stamp applier on this hulk 181 knew what he/she was doing and why he/she was doing it. I recently got graded a Mopsy #12 (St. Johns) from the 50's, It is the 1st Joe Sinnott professional artwork and had him sign the comic before he passed away. When I received the comic from CBCS Verified it was restored with color touch! I barely flinched under the reasonable assumption few are looking for this book; it's not worth terribly much, and the color touch likely occurred a long long time ago similar to the little joey thing above. |
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I showed my wife and she was so happy for me she started to cry.
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Quote:Originally Posted by JabberwookieI agree, would rather have a restored book than no book. Especially mega keys, if I came across a captain America 1 restored that I could afford, I would be all over it. I recently purchased a showcase 4 that I know has some restoration to it. I don't care, I've never owned a copy, always wanted one and bought it at a price I could afford and live with. I would rather have my restored copy than a copy with the top of the cover cut off. I'm sure many won't agree but to each there own. |
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 Keep your $6.87 bro... not even saving tax with that.
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| Deep Thoughts by Jack Handey - If a comic is restored in a forest and no one sees it, is it restored? | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by xjagnew Unfortunately, there are sellers out there that live by that philosophy. |
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