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Collector peterc777 private msg quote post Address this user
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I'm neither selling this nor bidding on it, but what is up with this?
Is there shill bidding going on?
X-men 1 is one of the highest printed and most widely available out there.
There doesn't seem to be anything special about this book, so why is the bid up to $560?
Any thoughts?

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The apple sauce and pudding were the best part... Bronte private msg quote post Address this user
The cover with cyclops and Wolverine variant has 1st appearance of omega red I think. I could be wrong on villan but it's definitely Wolverine and cyclops cover that is the one.

It was written about in gocollect a couple of weeks ago. I picked up a cheap cbcs copy after reading about it.


Edit my copy doesn't match exactly. I hope I got right variant.







https://blog.gocollect.com/omega-red-and-his-forgotten-cameo/
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I live in RI and Rhode Islanders eat chili with beans. esaravo private msg quote post Address this user
@peterc777 - It looks like stupidity at its finest IMO. The average price for this book in 9.8 over its last three sales at MCS is around $70. It's the direct edition, not a Newsstand or CPV, and looking at the full-size scans, I'd say that the grade was generous based on the corners. So I see nothing special or unique about this copy. Maybe the bidder thinks that the auction is for a dozen copies.
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I live in RI and Rhode Islanders eat chili with beans. esaravo private msg quote post Address this user
@Bronte - Mark, look at the back cover of your copy. I think you got the Newsstand Edition.

Edit:
I stand corrected, Mark. Your slab does say “E” on it I believe. My eye sight isn’t what it used to be.
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The apple sauce and pudding were the best part... Bronte private msg quote post Address this user
https://youtu.be/lpRn_wtCIyo

The you tube video explicitly shows omega red in the centerfold only on Wolverine and cyclops cover. The others have random centerfolds.
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Forum Crier OGJackster private msg quote post Address this user
Good question. Maybe there are rumors of a new movie with the Acolytes? Sadly, I don't own one of these and won't be getting one at that price
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Collector 00slim private msg quote post Address this user
@Bronte The one at auction is cover “C”. Yours, with the goldish lettering is cover “E”. Which was commonly referred to as the “Collector’s Edition”. The cover folds out almost like a poster.

“E” was the more sought after cover. It also features the same characters as “C”. I think you’re good.
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The apple sauce and pudding were the best part... Bronte private msg quote post Address this user
@esaravo

At hospital. Can't look till I get home. I'll post when I get a chance
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Please continue to ignore anything I post. southerncross private msg quote post Address this user
@00slim you're correct there about those books
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Collector peterc777 private msg quote post Address this user
So it's just run-of-the-mill speculation. Ok, makes sense, I guess.
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Collector 00slim private msg quote post Address this user
So, is GoCollect the modern equivalent to Wizard magazine?

They promote a book as solid spec & the market goes crazy?

I loved reading Wizard, but they were a big part of the speculation boom of the 90’s.
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Please continue to ignore anything I post. southerncross private msg quote post Address this user
@00slim go collect pricing reminds me of comic book values monthly.

Uneducated collectors pay drunk money on a book and it suddenly worth that
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Collector 00slim private msg quote post Address this user
Well, they do have actual sales data. It just doesn’t update as quickly as GPA.

But I do think they’re feeding the current frenzy.
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How do I know this? Because I've done it myself. lawguy1977 private msg quote post Address this user
So what you’re saying is that I should put this up for sale now? 😉




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Collector steveinthecity private msg quote post Address this user
I don’t understand the MCS auction either. Qualitycomix has nine copies of what appears to be the exact same cover in CGC 9.8 for $104 each incl. shipping on eBay currently.
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I live in RI and Rhode Islanders eat chili with beans. esaravo private msg quote post Address this user
@steveinthecity - I have seen a few instances where MCS has the same book listed for sale for less than it goes for in an auction. There’s a CBCS copy of the book in question for sale at MCS right now, for $101 or best offer. Makes absolutely no sense.
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I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers).
Splotches is gettin old!
Nuffsaid111 private msg quote post Address this user
Deadpool "Rookie" cards in X-Force 1, X-Men-1 for $500 .... something is going on.
There's always been head scratchers for many years, but something lately is amiss.
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Please continue to ignore anything I post. southerncross private msg quote post Address this user
Pandemic boredom, money to spend no vacation, loss of senses, take your pick
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I'd like to say I still turned out alright, but that would be a lie. flanders private msg quote post Address this user
Weird..MCS is the last place I expected that link to go to.
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I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers).
Splotches is gettin old!
Nuffsaid111 private msg quote post Address this user
Not sure if anyone saw this a few days ago.
It's specifically about the Sports card market, but the principles and content may be appropriate to some of the craziness with Deadpool cards, X-men inserts, Marvel trading cards, etc...

https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/12/investing/baseball-cards-markets/index.html
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Collector Darkseid_of_town private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by 00slim
Well, they do have actual sales data. It just doesn’t update as quickly as GPA.

But I do think they’re feeding the current frenzy.
I am glad people are starting to realize what gocollect is doing.
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Collector Morgd120 private msg quote post Address this user
So.. Which book has the greater(real)value 1C or 1E?
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The apple sauce and pudding were the best part... Bronte private msg quote post Address this user
I finally was able to actually sit down and watch the YouTube completely and read the comments. The gatefold version has ALL the pinups so in theory I would imagine they are tied or the gatefold version has a slight edge....
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Suck it up, buttercup!! KatKomics private msg quote post Address this user
hey now!! mr excel says I have 5 of X-Men #1..guessing covers A to E??
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Have I told you about the time I dropped off 3,000 comics at SDCC? Scifinator private msg quote post Address this user
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@steveinthecity - I have seen a few instances where MCS has the same book listed for sale for less than it goes for in an auction. There’s a CBCS copy of the book in question for sale at MCS right now, for $101 or best offer. Makes absolutely no sense.
@esaravo

LOL @Esaravo that is my listing, maybe i should change the price from 101 to 1001.
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The apple sauce and pudding were the best part... Bronte private msg quote post Address this user

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I live in RI and Rhode Islanders eat chili with beans. esaravo private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by esaravo
@steveinthecity - I have seen a few instances where MCS has the same book listed for sale for less than it goes for in an auction. There’s a CBCS copy of the book in question for sale at MCS right now, for $101 or best offer. Makes absolutely no sense.
@esaravo

LOL @Esaravo that is my listing, maybe i should change the price from 101 to 1001.


The winning bid was $605, so why not raise it to $599?
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Collector Jabberwookie private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by 00slim
Well, they do have actual sales data. It just doesn’t update as quickly as GPA.

But I do think they’re feeding the current frenzy.
I am glad people are starting to realize what gocollect is doing.


It’s such a weird situation where comics are basically acting like their own little stock market.

At least with the actual market, we have standardized reporting, registration, etc...

GoCollect is trying to do that with sales data, but they are also acting like Motley Fool and giving advice.

I’ve definitely seen blogs cause issues to get hot and it can be troubling because it is pretty easy to manipulate the comic market.
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The apple sauce and pudding were the best part... Bronte private msg quote post Address this user
@Jabberwookie

There are always aberrations. Look at what happened with game stop. A bunch of folks decided to screw with the market and drive up cost. The manipulation was blatant and effect very real.

Comics may have its own niche, but there will always be blue chip stocks and speculation stocks. It's up to investors to do some research and see if their decisions make sense...
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Collector Jabberwookie private msg quote post Address this user
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@Jabberwookie

There are always aberrations. Look at what happened with game stop. A bunch of folks decided to screw with the market and drive up cost. The manipulation was blatant and effect very real.

Comics may have its own niche, but there will always be blue chip stocks and speculation stocks. It's up to investors to do some research and see if their decisions make sense...


Agree completely.

And to your point, GameStop happened in a regulated industry.

Imagine what happens when it’s not.

That’s what concerns me, but you’re right. If you’re going to swim in the ocean, you’d better be aware of sharks.
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