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You do know that the new guy brings the donuts, right? DWeeB1967 private msg quote post Address this user
While it seems to have been happening for a while, lately, I'm noticing more posts on the forum where an account with few (or no) previous posts creates a message complaining about some issue (often some problem they describe with services received from CBCS) and includes little documentation to support the claim. Hearing/Reading about the Gamestop stock carnival that has been going on lately has made me think about those messages.

As far as I know, Beckett Media is not a publicly-owned company, so I don't believe that these messages are being posted to drive stock price up or down. Additionally, while many regulars on this forum have had issues with CBCS at some point in the past (and I consider myself a regular even though I don't post nearly as often as many of you), I believe that most, if not all, of us are pulling for the company to be successful. So I don't think that these posts would ever be successful in making the regulars here abandon CBCS.

With all that said, do you guys agree that there seems to be a rise in the number of these types of messages lately? If so, why do y'all think that is? Do you think it's simply trolls? Do you think it's folks from across the street trying to sabotage CBCS? Something else?

Generally, I think the atmosphere on the forum is pretty pleasant so it's just always strange when one of these messages appears. I'm just curious to get opinions from you guys.

Thanks!
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Suck it up, buttercup!! KatKomics private msg quote post Address this user
I'm not sure if I've noticed more of them than usual. I do find though that every once in a while the complaint/gripe seems off somehow...that's just a gut feel. Some others seem like possibly legit i.e. not too far off what myself or other CBCS customers on the board have experienced in the past. I can't even think of a post right now that didn't feel right but they do come along.
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Masculinity takes a holiday. EbayMafia private msg quote post Address this user
I think these posts are the spice that keeps the forum from becoming overly bland. At 50 I have so little adrenaline-inducing activity in my life,lol. I enjoy when there's a thread going on that gives me a reason to check back every 30 minutes or so.
The monitors have to be careful of the titles though because those will get picked up in Google searches. If someone titles a thread "CBCS stole my books", that will come up in a search. Also if an Ebay username is used in the title I think that can come up in a Google search also.
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Suck it up, buttercup!! KatKomics private msg quote post Address this user
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I think these posts are the spice that keeps the forum from becoming overly bland. At 50 I have so little adrenaline-inducing activity in my life,lol. I enjoy when there's a thread going on that gives me a reason to check back every 30 minutes or so


lol!! ain't it the truth...especially when I've been working from home for almost a year now too!! no more coffee breaks so I check what has been posted!
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The apple sauce and pudding were the best part... Bronte private msg quote post Address this user
To be honest, a few people posting and then ghosting isn't going to change anyone's mind. The fact that people on the forums try and help resolve the issue I think helps if the thread gets pulled up on a Google search and the person actually reads through the thread.

Unless it is blatantly hateful, I think its a mistake to delete the threads. If people read though the thread, it shows that this community is trying to help with reasonable questions and suggestions. I don't recall any incident where people just jumped all in and attacked someone just for posting.

Although my post of strawberry shortcake comic as an attempt of humor was prolly a mistake on the other thread.
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You do know that the new guy brings the donuts, right? DWeeB1967 private msg quote post Address this user
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Although my post of strawberry shortcake comic as an attempt of humor was prolly a mistake on the other thread

I actually thought that was pretty funny. Very undervalued comic, IMO. 😄
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I'd like to say I still turned out alright, but that would be a lie. flanders private msg quote post Address this user
@DWeeB1967 my first CBCS post was questioning/complaining about CBCS's handling of my comic submission. I blame my unwarranted criticism on the fact that I was heavily medicated at the time. Upon finding more photos pre-submission and getting a lot of feedback from the forum, I realized the comics were returned in the condition I sent them in and the main thing I needed was more grading experience and possibly a new glasses prescription.

I haven't noticed an increase in these types of posts recently. The only ones that come to mind in the last year or so are the previous posts from toledo which are utter nonsense, but I also don't have the best memory.
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You do know that the new guy brings the donuts, right? DWeeB1967 private msg quote post Address this user
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To be honest, a few people posting and then ghosting isn't going to change anyone's mind. The fact that people on the forums try and help resolve the issue I think helps if the thread gets pulled up on a Google search and the person actually reads through the thread.

Unless it is blatantly hateful, I think its a mistake to delete the threads. If people read though the thread, it shows that this community is trying to help with reasonable questions and suggestions. I don't recall any incident where people just jumped all in and attacked someone just for posting.

Although my post of strawberry shortcake comic as an attempt of humor was prolly a mistake on the other thread.


I agree with your statement that, generally, the community makes an attempt to help with the problem/issue. I really like about the folks on this forum. There's enough hateful BS in the world these days. It's nice to be able to escape and chat comics with a group of folks who seem pretty level-headed.
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Masculinity takes a holiday. EbayMafia private msg quote post Address this user
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I agree with your statement that, generally, the community makes an attempt to help with the problem/issue. I really like about the folks on this forum.


We're a reasonably fair group and I think most of us are open to having our positions swayed as new information is presented. But we definitely would (and should) challenge any unestablished member who comes in with hyperbole and inflammatory language telling a story that feels like half the details are missing. Used to be that I would see the word "Scammer" in the title and my sympathies would immediately fall with the poster. Now, I look to see if the OP is a member that I recognize. If not, I'm going to read it with a critical eye.
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Collector RRO private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by Bronte
To be honest, a few people posting and then ghosting isn't going to change anyone's mind. The fact that people on the forums try and help resolve the issue I think helps if the thread gets pulled up on a Google search and the person actually reads through the thread.

Unless it is blatantly hateful, I think its a mistake to delete the threads. If people read though the thread, it shows that this community is trying to help with reasonable questions and suggestions. I don't recall any incident where people just jumped all in and attacked someone just for posting.

Although my post of strawberry shortcake comic as an attempt of humor was prolly a mistake on the other thread.


Damn, I hope that guy will accept returns.
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The apple sauce and pudding were the best part... Bronte private msg quote post Address this user
@RRO

Not sure I follow?
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Collector RRO private msg quote post Address this user
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@RRO

Not sure I follow?

Just following up on your Strawberry Shortcake humour. S'all.
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Collector Redmisty4me private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by Bronte
To be honest, a few people posting and then ghosting isn't going to change anyone's mind. The fact that people on the forums try and help resolve the issue I think helps if the thread gets pulled up on a Google search and the person actually reads through the thread.

Unless it is blatantly hateful, I think its a mistake to delete the threads. If people read though the thread, it shows that this community is trying to help with reasonable questions and suggestions. I don't recall any incident where people just jumped all in and attacked someone just for posting.

Although my post of strawberry shortcake comic as an attempt of humor was prolly a mistake on the other thread.

Don't diss Strawberry Shortcake or I will get eBayMafia to hack your brain!
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If the viagra is working you should be well over a 9.8. xkonk private msg quote post Address this user
I wouldn't say I've noticed an uptick either. It certainly isn't as bad as when there were real issues, like the hurricane or any time pressing gets bogged down. As for why, I assume that like most things it's a mix of mostly legitimate (if sometimes antsy or uninformed) concern and a few people trying to slam the company for some reason. I don't read the CGC boards at all but I assume they're similar.
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I'm good with splotches. Nuffsaid111 private msg quote post Address this user
The new accounts that come on here and complain I certainly look at. In the end, historically speaking, they seem to be either an unfortunate isolated incident that gets corrected, or they are some type of ranting nonsense.

Most of the regulars on here, if there are complaints, it's the TAT and when info changes on their account (processing, received, grading, etc..). Certainly an annoyance at times, but minor in the grand scheme of the hobby.
On the plus side, I have become such a more patient man as a result of it, so I guess it's all good?
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Collector BrianGreensnips private msg quote post Address this user
@DWeeB1967 The good thing is most of us can tell when someone comes on here and is full of bologna. I personally would like to see more positive upbeat threads on the forum. With so much going on in the world these days, it is sometimes hard to stay positive. I will make a conscious effort to be positive today. Excelsior!
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You do know that the new guy brings the donuts, right? DWeeB1967 private msg quote post Address this user
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@DWeeB1967 The good thing is most of us can tell when someone comes on here and is full of bologna. I personally would like to see more positive upbeat threads on the forum. With so much going on in the world these days, it is sometimes hard to stay positive. I will make a conscious effort to be positive today. Excelsior!

Agreed, @BrianGreensnips. It's generally pretty easy to sniff out the postings that are bogus.

And maybe that's it... maybe there haven't been more of these types of messages. Maybe MY REACTION to them has become more pessimistic. I need to be more mindful of that. Maybe I'm letting the negativity of the world creep in when I really shouldn't be doing that.

I'm still working full time from home and my wife's working part time. So financially we're fine. I caught Covid in December - and it sucked - but I recovered and am doing fine as are many of my extended family who also caught it. So I'm fortunate in that respect. I have a hobby that I'm passionate about and a bunch of good folks to discuss it with here on the forum. All in all, I'm doing great.

So maybe that's it. Maybe it's my mindset that I've allowed to change without realizing it. Thanks, @BrianGreensnips. I'll try to be more mindful of that in the future.

And to everyone, I apologize for turning this thread into a therapy session. 😄
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PLOD theCapraAegagrus private msg quote post Address this user
"Do you think it's folks from across the street trying to sabotage CBCS?"

LOL. Come on.
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It was a one trick pony show but always hilarious. GAC private msg quote post Address this user
For me, when this happens, my concern is not about us, the regulars. We can pretty much assess what's going on when it happens and see it for what it is, a legitimate complaint or otherwise.

My concern is more with the casual viewer of this forum. They may take these complaints at face value and believe them 100% as a one sided story. I wonder if CBCS is being hurt financially or atleast reputation-wise by these types of claims. I'm curious what the total web traffic is here?
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You do know that the new guy brings the donuts, right? DWeeB1967 private msg quote post Address this user
Right, @GAC. Absolutely. I've wondered about that myself.

I do understand that there have been (and many would say there continue to be) issues with TAT, incomplete online submission forms and things like that and those are real issues. Still, I can't help but wonder how the bogus postings impact CBCS financially.
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Collector Redmisty4me private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by DWeeB1967
While it seems to have been happening for a while, lately, I'm noticing more posts on the forum where an account with few (or no) previous posts creates a message complaining about some issue (often some problem they describe with services received from CBCS) and includes little documentation to support the claim. Hearing/Reading about the Gamestop stock carnival that has been going on lately has made me think about those messages.

As far as I know, Beckett Media is not a publicly-owned company, so I don't believe that these messages are being posted to drive stock price up or down. Additionally, while many regulars on this forum have had issues with CBCS at some point in the past (and I consider myself a regular even though I don't post nearly as often as many of you), I believe that most, if not all, of us are pulling for the company to be successful. So I don't think that these posts would ever be successful in making the regulars here abandon CBCS.

With all that said, do you guys agree that there seems to be a rise in the number of these types of messages lately? If so, why do y'all think that is? Do you think it's simply trolls? Do you think it's folks from across the street trying to sabotage CBCS? Something else?

Generally, I think the atmosphere on the forum is pretty pleasant so it's just always strange when one of these messages appears. I'm just curious to get opinions from you guys.

Thanks!


While the world is proudly & loudly flying its crazy flag at the moment...

...any perceived or actual increase of negativity lately may be as a result of heavier than usual (Black Friday quarter) buying/selling/submission activity, plus problems generated by XXXXX-XX related delays.

As to it affecting the bottom line of CBCS, I haven't seen anything which even remotely rises to the level of a serious concern raised by anyone, and certainly nothing which could affect the company's bottom line.

Both CGC and CBCS have their glitches, but they're pretty well-known - or easily learned of - by anyone doing business with them.

To accomplish even the possibility of harm to either (is PGX still around?) would require a perfect storm of bizarre circumstances that I just don't see occurring; maybe certifying a newly printed/counterfeit Action #1 as an original or something insane like that?

And even then, I'm guessing people would be more intrigued than judgmental - "a counterfeit so well made that even the experts were fooled!," and new safeguards put in place to prevent future problems.
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Collector Jabberwookie private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by theCapraAegagrus
"Do you think it's folks from across the street trying to sabotage CBCS?"

LOL. Come on.


I think @DWeeB1967 was just speculating and didn’t mean anything by it, but I mostly agree with your sentiment here.

CBCS and CGC are both great companies for comics. We really shouldn’t turn it into an us vs. them thing.

Competitors don’t have to be mortal enemies. I’d almost guarantee I’ve fallen into that trap, too, but at the end of the day, the more options collectors have to protect their comics, the better for all of us.
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You do know that the new guy brings the donuts, right? DWeeB1967 private msg quote post Address this user
@Jabberwookie Right. I wasn't suggesting that to be the case and, for the record, I don't think the messages have anything to do with CGC sabotage. I was just wondering what was causing what I saw as an increase in "negative" postings and curious what others thought.

@BrianGreensnips made me look at things in another way. Maybe I've let negativity seep in and that is making me feel like there are more negative messages when, really, there aren't. So, now I'm trying to be more mindful about that.
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If I could, I would. I swear. DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user
In a world of instant gratification, patience is a virtue.
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Collector Huntergreene2 private msg quote post Address this user
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"Do you think it's folks from across the street trying to sabotage CBCS?"

LOL. Come on.


The guys across the street.... you mean the V-Outlet Shoe Store at 4550 McEwen Rd?
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Collector Jabberwookie private msg quote post Address this user
@DWeeB1967

I definitely know what you mean. It seems like we have quite a few "drive-by" trash-talking posts pop up lately, but I just chalked it up to your standard internet rage and unhappiness.

I'm glad you mentioned it, though. I'd kind of forgotten about it and was curious what was going on myself.
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Collector mattness private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by theCapraAegagrus
"Do you think it's folks from across the street trying to sabotage CBCS?"

LOL. Come on.


CGC has been known to do this. They were banned from this site because of it.

https://efour.proboards.com/thread/21152/cgc-employees-astroturfing-e4?fbclid=IwAR19nIMUNWc3kwsbQGWJ089GIjCVdsYfjP_oAJRwxFismZ7QtqPfup3BX84
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It was a one trick pony show but always hilarious. GAC private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by theCapraAegagrus
"Do you think it's folks from across the street trying to sabotage CBCS?"

LOL. Come on.


CGC has been known to do this. They were banned from this site because of it.

https://efour.proboards.com/thread/21152/cgc-employees-astroturfing-e4?fbclid=IwAR19nIMUNWc3kwsbQGWJ089GIjCVdsYfjP_oAJRwxFismZ7QtqPfup3BX84


Holy crap!!!!! not surprised to be honest! Wow!
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Collector bennyb86 private msg quote post Address this user
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The guys across the street.... you mean the V-Outlet Shoe Store at 4550 McEwen Rd?


Ugh Don't get me started on them...
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Masculinity takes a holiday. EbayMafia private msg quote post Address this user
In general I’m opposed to taking to social media to gain leverage in a dispute or customer service issue. It should be the last choice and the accuser should have a very strong case. As we’ve seen, those who are too casual about it often end up hanging from their own rope.
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