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Quote:Originally Posted by EbaySeller That's funny, because that's exactly the attitude companies have right before new companies like Tesla or Shopify eat them for lunch. Also ironic that it's those little details that make all the difference between the new and the old companies, because those little details end up being a differentiators between new and old. A company should always be open to new ideas especially when your base has an emotional attachment to the product that you're selling. People love comic books, otherwise we wouldn't go to the trouble of having them greater than spending ridiculous amounts of money for them. If I didn't have a fondness for cbcs, I wouldn't give a shit what they do. I would just laugh at the fact that they're putting crap banner ads on all their pages and carry on. |
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@mediaslave Having ads or not having ads on a website is inconsequential. It will deter no one from submitting or not submitting. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by EbaySeller I'm not just a customer, I'm literally a web-campaign / web-development professional who works at an advertising agency handling the websites for several international companies (all of which are worth more than CBCS, one having in $1.9 billion in assets I need to promote correctly online and have to stop them from suggesting such mistakes as this on a monthly basis). CBCS started a company for grading, they shouldn't be taken to be experts in anything else and should think about what other professionals are saying about this. This simply looks like someone wanted to squeeze a few bucks out of an easy non-targeted ad script without figuring out if it made sense to both the bottom line and the future perception of the company as a whole. I don't need to start a new company to show em how its done, I have a company that exists to TELL them how its done so they don't have to worry about it and can focus on grading comics ![]() |
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Quote:Originally Posted by GAC Are you basing out on extensive knowledge you have from the advertising industry? Cuz funny thousands of agencies all across the world would argue with you right now. ![]() It just gives the guys who don't like cbcs one more thing to pick on. And considering how much Cgc dominates this industry over cbcs, the last thing they need to do is give their detractors more ammunition. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Jesse_O This is actually an excellent example, thank you for posting it. Notice the top banners (one for a youtube content and the other for 25% off) - those are good usages as they direct the users to relevant content created by the site (a youtube channel for the website, and then the store itself). The traffic is contained to their own channels/pages and can be tracked and monetized with full control. They are in essence really acting as giant navigation buttons to more branded & controlled content, and has been planned out as part of the user experience (not just stuck in and loading random stuff) The Square ad in the lower right however, that is just plain old crap banner ad for monetary game which is standard for opinion/news sites or blogs, which the Drum does fall into (their revenue comes from this but then they pull extra from pushing items in their store). I'm sure this type of banner ad is what the article is talking about (and they would be correct). |
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Quote:Originally Posted by SauceDog Many of us have been in positions of making decisions with big money and having relatively unlimited budgets. If one day you have your butt on the line without a safety net it may soften your perspective of what is mission-critical and what is not. When everything you own is on the line and the families of 20 employees are counting on you to make weekly payroll it can put things into different perspective. If a banner ad is a mistake, it's a survivable mistake. If a yellow signature label is a mistake, it's also a survivable mistake. Big companies often have the luxury of playing Chess and working long-term strategy, smaller companies typically have to settle for playing checkers and take the move that's available to them at the moment. When everything you have is on the line each week you learn that there is one mistake that really matters...the mistake of running out of money. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by mediaslave Yeah sure, and not caring enough about revenues and costs is exactly the attitude that some companies have right before they realize they're going to run out of money. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by mediaslave Exactly. One third of the entire page is an ad for pajamas. Nobody goes to this site to buy pajamas. The few pro places that DO sell ads (I am thinking of Heritage or GPA), are all curated banner or spot ads FOR THE COMIC INDUSTRY. The ads on CBCS are just bozo google ads for whatever rubbish you picked up a cookie for by accident. It's simply weary, tired and rude to drop on your customers. |
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Anger, rage, foots in asses! | ||
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#Themainpagewithadsiseasilyavoidable. Oh wait, I’m not a web designer, my fault. | ||
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My homepage doesn't have the ads for Mormon pajamas but it does have the more deceptive banner ad of "Promo Codes Available". It got me a couple days ago, right as I was clicking I thought "Oh shit, it's a banner ad" and I've been seeing it ever since. But it didn't make me reconsider my recent submissions to CBCS. | ||
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I just had to turn off my tv. Commercials were on. | ||
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Same reason I don't use the internet... the ads outweigh the benefits of immediate information and/or services. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by HeinzDad I'm just going to chalk up your responses to you thinking that you're funny, and not to you completely failing to miss the point here. :-) |
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Has anyone considered the opinion of people that need pajamas? Where is that voice? | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by mediaslaveI mean, it seems the same to me. Yeah I was trying to be funny but how is it different? Especially when you can turn on a blocker for the “commercial”? |
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Quote:Originally Posted by xjagnewAnd I thought I was funny and cute. |
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@HeinzDad Their voice is invisible, just like mine. ![]() |
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Quote:Originally Posted by HeinzDad The point isn't the commercial, it's not about the ad. It's about the mentality of wanting to put a banner ad on your website, and what that says about your brand. Let's make a simple but perhaps not 100% accurate analogy. Let's say that I had a Porsche 911 Turbo. I had this thing dial do with aftermarket concave rims, stereo done, windows are tinted, engine is tuned and boosted, and the whole thing is just dial to the nines. Now, that particular car says something. It's not practical, it's an absurd thing to buy, but it comes with an image. Now you can argue all day whether or not that's a douchebag image or whatever, but at the end of the day it is a high-end, Elite product that says something when you own it. Now, take a big fucking sticker that advertises duct cleaning and stick it on my door. Now what is it say? Cheapens the entire car and makes it look like garbage. It also says whoever owns that car is an absolute tool. That's not quite a 100% accurate analogy here but it's close enough. By putting this random banner ads on their homepage and on product pages, it reeks of desperation for income. It makes cbcs look like they're desperate for money. It also comes off as a very lowbrow, unprofessional move. As I said before you would never see a high-end branded company do anything like this. The worst you would see our ads that are either related content to the product being sold by the original company, or ads for additional products that that same company cell. But you are never going to go to Portia's website and see banner ads for pyjamas with ass flaps. Now in my opinion cbcs is biggest problem is that they have always presented themselves as a lower-cost second-tier alternative to cgc, rather than as a direct competitor. That has everything to do with the image that they present. They have very little in the sense of memorable branding, the website pretty terrible, the labels are amateur at best. But I do think they do a great job in grading itself, and their cases are excellent. I've also had very good experiences with the cbcs guys, in particular Tim who was one of my favourite people at conventions. Unfortunately putting that band Ratt on their homepage just makes them look more amateurish than before, and gives the people that do not like cbcs more ammunition to dislike them because their brand looks weaker again. Does that make sense? |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Redmisty4me Where is my Mormon PJ ad? All I'm seeing is a comic-related thing for Beckett which then morphs to a CBCS thing. While I don't care passionately either way, I will weigh in to say that the ad at the top of the My eBay page is very annoying, and even more so when animated; I still remember when it first came into use years ago - drove me nuts, as you had to keep clicking down to access what you were on your own page for! So I guess I can somewhat sympathize. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by mediaslave I’d like to ask right now that you don’t act like I’m dumb and ask “if that makes sense?”. Ignore it dude, don’t go to the website. I’d miss your blank sketch covers, trust me, they are beauty’s,but CBCS won’t miss your business. It’s 9:04 eastern and you are breaking out office insight on a comic forum. I guess I should find one I could rant about drywall on. When you can not view something but choose to and complain it becomes confusing to me. Wait... I guess I don’t understand. |
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I went to the CBCS home page 14 months ago to find out more info and join. Haven't been back until today, when "forced" to check out the marauding banner ad there. Don't go there - there's nothing there anyway. Get to the forum in any of the many other ways. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by HeinzDad Not to be too controversial but it is totally different. TV adds are there because those are what pay for the show you're watching or radio you're listening to. Now cable is a bit different as yes -you are also paying...but not as much as it costs to produce the shows you are consuming... You don't get adds on streaming TV or digital radio because you are the one paying for the content. |
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Modify your analogy....instead of a high end Porshe with a duct cleaning ad on the side to an average Chevy or Ford with a bumper sticker. I don't consider CGC or CBCS as elitist services to comic collectors as a Porsche might be to automobile owners. I don't equate an ad at the top of the website the same as a plastered sticker on the side of a car. This is about perspectives. You have yours and others have theirs. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by mediaslave Maybe a few arrogant elitists might barf. But 999 out of 1000 of us common folk would look right through the sticker and say "cool freaking Porche". |
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I, for one, am glad we've finally found the true source of division on the forum. Looking forward to a new sticky thread soon. | ||
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