What's the word on CBCS grading reputation?13490
 I had no way of knowing that 9.8 graded copies signed by Adam Hughes weren't what you were looking for.
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| From my online sales results I would say there a great demand for books graded by CBCS and CGC. Many people have a preference but I think both companies are reputable. |
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 Thank you sir. May I have another?
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| I have seen word getting around that if you need help from CBCS concerning a submission, you go to the forum instead of CS. Some might see that and find it hard to take CBCS seriously. I remember reading too many posts where the customer was asked to return the problem slab[s] with their next submission of 5-10 books. Unacceptable response. Apparently they don't say that anymore, so that's good. |
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 I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers).Splotches is gettin old! |
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Quote:Originally Posted by GAC Good point. Never considered a 10. I think 10's are ... what... about 0.12% of all total submissions? Something like that? In fact, maybe that's my method of justifying selling it without feeling bad. I.e. "It's a 10 except for..... "  |
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 I've spent years perfecting my brand of assholery.
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| What's that thing that looks like a sperm? | ||
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 I have a problem with fattening women up.
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| Magnified by the newton rings, a sperm sample for a notti and nice cover ? | ||
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| That color breaking corner crease will knock it down to a 9.4 at best. My guess is that it was graded a 9.8 but unfortunately it became damaged during encapsulation and sent out regardless with the 9.8 label. | ||
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I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers). Splotches is gettin old! |
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| @Bronte - Hysterical!!! @DrWatson - I bought the book raw with the corner crease. I saw it but simply wanted to get rid of the obviousness of the crease not resulting in a flat book. I knew it was color breaking when I saw it after purchasing raw. I submitted anyway and was shocked when it came back 9.8. I just shook my head. And I think that's what bothers me most - even moreso than if they were to have damaged the book. They obviously did not review the book very well at all during the grading process. I am beginning to suspect that Moderns are not scrutinized very well at CGC, because thats where I see most of the really awful oversights |
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 I'll probably wake up constipated.
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Quote:Originally Posted by DrWatson One of the CGC graders must have really liked that book. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Pre_Coder No wonder it got a 9.8. |
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 Masculinity takes a holiday.
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Quote:Originally Posted by DrWatson This thread just turned into a Saturday Night Live parody of what a comic collectors forum would sound like, lol. |
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 I'm a #2.
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Quote:Originally Posted by GAC Actually your statement is the very definition of being bias. A person advocating for CGC says the very same thing because their biased toward the service they prefer. just sayin' |
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 I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this.
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GAC private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by BigRedOne1944 This is the definition of bias. Bias: a particular tendency, trend, inclination, feeling, or opinion, especially one that is preconceived or unreasoned Now, if Steve Borock was, say, a blood relative, (and I gathered no qualatative and/or quantatative data) then yes, I would appear biased. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by GAC Interesting @GAC, good to know the true definition of bias. I also had it wrong, thinking it was a simple preference. I will admit to bias in this case. I gave CBCS a shot when they first opened because I believed the CGC monopoly would be bad for me and everyone in the industry in the long run. Having a healthy competitor offering an alternative choice keeps companies from getting complacent and ignoring complaints. It makes companies care about things like TAT's, prices and slab quality. Add in the Signature Verification, and CBCS plays a critical role in the industry. Just out of self-interest alone I would remain loyal to CBCS until loyalty became intolerable. Honestly though, if CGC were to become the underdog and be in a struggle to stay afloat, I would not be happy about that, I would probably switch my bias and give them what support I can offer. They are not adversaries that require picking a side, they are just competitors. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by EbaySeller @EbaySeller Very true from our perspective...they are not adversaries and just competitors but I'd be curious to know what the executives at CBCS think. I say this because, without getting into specifics, I'm pretty sure CGC has engaged in anti-competitive practices against CBCS. On top of CBCS's superior output they are far friendlier to the hobby. In terms of "picking a side", it's no different than what everybody does every day when voting with their dollars. You choose, at that given moment, where your dollars are best spent. |
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| You likely aren't hearing anything because you choose echo chambers. It's why I signed up here and am not just a member at CGC. There are proper criticisms, and proper worshiping, of both brands. | ||
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PLOD
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Quote:Originally Posted by KYDU I concur. |
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| as stated CGC got a hold on most shops and sellers, There are shops / companies that will have signings and or exclusives that sell graded options but only to CGC. most people have heard of CGC after comics sold for high dollar. I've told the CBCS guys they have to do more appearances ( not a good year for that ) ~ my experience ~ i have graded books and slabbed from both companies... even 2020 i have stuff at CGC because it's the only "witnessed" option I had plus shipping cost and discounted rate from the company that only does CGC grading and slabbing options. as well as mail-ins. My CBCS cases have held up better, both have came a long way in quality of their cases. i have CGC case that are cracked from shipping / moving, I have CGC case that i can fit a feeler gauge in from the factory, honestly with just hand pressure you can bust them open gen 1s(2010s) gen 2(2015?) harder to open but the comic wasnt sealed a sheet of mylar was laying on top and bottom. gen3 and 4 are almost tamper proof as case will crack. same with CBCS gen 1 can almost be pulled apart by hand the tabs kinda hold it together, which can be popped open the plastic seems better. gen 2 pretty much the same with the tabs, so far gen 3 2020 cases seem solid more tamperproof sonic welded case if you crack it it will be cracked, noticeably cracked open. i pick up my books in dallas I drive 18 wheelers tossed 5 slabs in a laptop backpack and driving for 5 weeks not one crack or chip. All my CBCS stuff has came back correct!! THE FIRST TIME! not saying mistakes cant happen. CGC.... sometimes I feel like they aren't even looking at the book they grade or title of the book! (see picture) i've seen new!! brand new books get taken out of a box, signed then pressed then submitted get 9.6 ~ 9.8 i've seen books with waveyness on the cover from the print ink, and cutter fray get the same 9.8 CBCS will break your heart if your looking for 9.8s. it sucks for resell purpose has 9.0-9.4 label is not as good as 9.8 label, but I feel its a more honest grade. but man does it hurt to get a lower grade! At an super high dollar level 100k+ id imagine the buyer would want to crack the slab open to verify the condition as well as inserts like cards, ad, bookmarks, posters etc... most people can look a just see some of the grades dont match up. from my CGC books small hand pressable stuff but CBCS would dock you for. as far as being a collector or someone who want to preserve you artwork, sketches or signatures you cant really go wrong with either company at this point. i rather slab a $50-150-500-$5,000+ original art, sketch or drawing than leave it in a poly or mylar. the next option being comic skins and self slabs but arent plastic weld sealed sleeved. it kind comes down to how you want your collection to look. uniformed? which may or may not be a deal to some.   |
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Quote:Originally Posted by EbaySeller Exactly; so much so that I'm all but lost. |
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| Nine times out of ten, I hear some variation of this comment about CBCS online: “I like their service and their product, but I had a bad experience, waiting ”x” months to get my books back. I’ll give them another shot someday.” | ||
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| I prefer CBCSs cases. With the books I've sent in recently, their grading is TIGHT but fair. | ||
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