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AF15 9.813355

Secret Moderator MatterEaterLad private msg quote post Address this user
WOW. When it comes to restoration, go big or go home.

The book will be in the next Comic Connect auction.


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Collector KCBatmanFan private msg quote post Address this user
I bet that was some costly restoration work!
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COLLECTOR dielinfinite private msg quote post Address this user
Should’ve gone for a 10.0
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If I could, I would. I swear. DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user
Not a fan of trimmed cover edges.
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Should’ve gone for a 10.0



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I live in RI and Rhode Islanders eat chili with beans. esaravo private msg quote post Address this user
Just another fake purple grade (PLOD).
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Collector TellEmSteveDave private msg quote post Address this user
9.8
All three edges trimmed.
Ummmmmm yeah sure why not.
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COLLECTOR dielinfinite private msg quote post Address this user
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Just another fake purple grade (PLOD).



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It was a one trick pony show but always hilarious. GAC private msg quote post Address this user
I would still take that book....king of the silver age imo.
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I would still take that book....king of the silver age imo.


I would not kick it out of my collection.
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If I could, I would. I swear. DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user
I would take it if someone gave it to me, but I wouldn't buy it even if the money wasn't a concern.
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Collector Rafel private msg quote post Address this user
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Just another fake purple grade (PLOD).





When does restoration stop and a xerox copy starts?
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Masculinity takes a holiday. EbayMafia private msg quote post Address this user
Its a historical artifact that has had its historicity removed from it.
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If I could, I would. I swear. DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user
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Its a historical artifact that has had its historicity removed from it.

So, you're saying it's had a historectomy?
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Please continue to ignore anything I post. southerncross private msg quote post Address this user



Myself there is a difference between restoring structural integrity and rebuilding a book when there are a lot out there
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Collector CatCovers private msg quote post Address this user
Yeah, I wouldn’t buy that thing. I would take it if it were offered. Then sell it and get the best “real” AF15 I could manage with the proceeds.
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I live in RI and Rhode Islanders eat chili with beans. esaravo private msg quote post Address this user
It's probably something like 50% more a real AF15 than my fake copy:


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Please continue to ignore anything I post. southerncross private msg quote post Address this user
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Yeah, I wouldn’t buy that thing. I would take it if it were offered. Then sell it and get the best “real” AF15 I could manage with the proceeds.


That was my thinking too 👍
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Not trying to be an ass since February 12, 2020. HulkSmash private msg quote post Address this user
This is is too much. May as well get a True Believers.

I could see doing this as a pass time if you were capable of doing the work, but I don’t see dropping the cash to have it done when you could buy a good copy. Too each his own.
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If I could, I would. I swear. DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user
It's still a real AF 15 to me, but like I said before, I really don't like the trimming and for some reason the interior lightening. The rest really doesn't bother me. However, as I've gotten older, I do like it when my Silver Age books still have a vintage (not beat) feel (look) to them.
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It's still a real AF 15 to me, but like I said before, I really don't like the trimming and for some reason the interior lightening. The rest really doesn't bother me. However, as I've gotten older, I do like it when my Silver Age books still have a vintage (not beat) feel (look) to them.


High-end restorationists document the work, with photos to show the progress and verify what's been done, because buyers who pay more than 100k for a book want to know. Folks at this level don't use color copies or facsimiles.

It's one thing to go from a Blue 1.5 to a Purple 5.0 (which would require larger pieces added). But to get the book to a 9.2+, you have to be starting with at least a mid-grade book, so we're only talking a few very small pieces, reinforced spine with leaf-casting, professional color touch, etc.

If I had a purple 5.0 with a trimmed cover, I'd have no problem if someone could take that to a 9.8.
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If I could, I would. I swear. DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user
It would look better in a CBCS holder.
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I'll probably wake up constipated. Pre_Coder private msg quote post Address this user
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It would look better in a CBCS holder.


Exactly what I was thinking.
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Masculinity takes a holiday. EbayMafia private msg quote post Address this user
I don't know if anyone else feels this way but the 9.8 grade actually de-legitimizes the book for me. Getting a book like that to an 8.5 or 9.0 would feel more like a legitimate use of restoration. Getting it to a 9.8 just seems over the top and contrived. Almost like it may as well be a facsimile cover.
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I don't know if anyone else feels this way but the 9.8 grade actually de-legitimizes the book for me. Getting a book like that to an 8.5 or 9.0 would feel more like a legitimate use of restoration. Getting it to a 9.8 just seems over the top and contrived. Almost like it may as well be a facsimile cover.


There's definitely that resistance. A too good to be true kind of thing. I'm hoping that eventually collectors will realize that purple 9.0+ has often had less work done to it than a purple 5.0
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It was a one trick pony show but always hilarious. GAC private msg quote post Address this user
The book is likely 95% original, 5% additives.
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The book is likely 95% original, 5% additives.


95% Original
3% Dead Sea Scrolls
1% Meteorite fragments
.75% Bob Kane's toupee
.25% Anti-matter
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It was a one trick pony show but always hilarious. GAC private msg quote post Address this user
@MatterEaterLad lol!!
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Masculinity takes a holiday. EbayMafia private msg quote post Address this user
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I'm hoping that eventually collectors will realize that purple 9.0 has often had less work done to it than a purple 5.0


I'm completely ignorant of the restoration industry, but I would be surprised to learn that. Typically in trying to achieve perfection in anything its the last 10% that takes the most effort. Interior lightening is also a new one to me. I would assume that's not necessary for the 5.0's.
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If I could, I would. I swear. DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user
Interior lightening is the same thing as wet washing or solvent cleaning every page of the book. The term "interior lightening" just makes it sound better.
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