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Nuffsaid111 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Just curious about the other guys policy (i.e. if it has changed). I thought that unverified signatures get a Green Label with "Name written on cover". Then I see this and it gets a Universal grade? I'm assuming this is just an error?  |
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Bronte private msg quote post Address this user | |
| From my understanding there was always a choice. Taking blue or green. But they defaulted to green. Personally I prefer blue |
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OGJackster private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Am I missing it? Where's the name? | ||
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Reelgee private msg quote post Address this user | |
| What’s a universal grade? | ||
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HarrisonMade private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @OGJackster the name is written in silver (I think) along the log on the bottom left side. | ||
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 It's like the Roach Motel for comic collectors.
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chester15 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| That is an error, for sure. I looked it up, and it was graded on 1/2/20, Universal, which it shouldn't be. It should be Qualified, a green label, but they classified it incorrectly. I owned a Venom Gold #1 signed by Bagley with that same situation, and it was a challenge to sell. Nice that it had the blue label, but people seemed leery of purchasing it due to it being incorrect. I ended up cracking it out and selling it raw for about the same price I was asking. |
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OGJackster private msg quote post Address this user | |
| It's been said elsewhere... "Unwitnessed signatures are essentially "writing on the cover". If you request a blue label on such a book, you'll usually end up with a grade no higher than about 6.0. So CGC has a green (qualified) label for just such books. The numeric grade is the same as if there was no signature counting as a defect. But a green label." |
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chester15 private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by OGJackster That HAS been said elsewhere, but CGC vehemently denies that you have a choice. It's always supposed to be Qualified, but they mess up sometimes. There was also that recent problem with comics with restoration getting Universal labels over there. They have trouble keeping things straight. |
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cyrano0521 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| It is not ALWAYS green; it’s ONLY if the green label is a higher grade. If you have a 4.0 with ir without the signature, you get blue. | ||
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theCapraAegagrus private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Qualified Labels are for books that are otherwise high-grade. As in, "this is the grade if you ignore this noticeable defect that doesn't effect story". If this is a 5.5 without the writing on cover, then it's a 5.0 Universal with writing on cover. |
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Nuffsaid111 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| No wonder why I'm confused. If this, then that; except in cases of this. In which case it is neither this nor that. Oooooooooook....... I'll stick with these guys here. |
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zdoes10 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @Nuffsaid111 I know what you mean. I sent in two books with signatures on them and one came back with the green label and the other one came back with a blue label |
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 Have I told you about the time I dropped off 3,000 comics at SDCC?
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Scifinator private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by HarrisonMade Wow, that was well camouflaged. |
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theCapraAegagrus private msg quote post Address this user | |
| CGC's Qualified Label is something that I don't think should exist. I'm sorry, but if a comic is missing the MVS, can't be an 8.5 (for example) IMO. |
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TellEmSteveDave private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I had a book come back 9.8 blue with a huge autograph in silver marker on the first page. Nothing in notes or label about the autograph. | ||
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 Thank you sir. May I have another?
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Siggy private msg quote post Address this user | |
I purchased this (here, I think- I don't recall the grade) with a Green Label- It made no mention of Peter David's sig on the 1st page.  |
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esaravo private msg quote post Address this user | |
Blue label with unverified signature listed as "Name written on cover in marker"(coincidentally it's another Neal Adams signature in silver) with a 7.5 Universal Grade. I purchased it like this, so I don't know when it was slabbed. |
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steveinthecity private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by esaravo26 Nov 2014 |
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dielinfinite private msg quote post Address this user | |
From the CGC Forums, a breakdown of the various defects found on Green Labels from a sample of Heritage Auction listings |
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lpgasdude private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by esaravo I'm asking this because I don't know, but in a case like this wouldn't it be good to send this in to CBCS to get the sig verified? Or is it just not worth the possible jump in value, if there would be any? It's already a book with writing on the cover. |
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Steverogers11 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| You can request a blue label but it will hurt the grade. Did this a few times | ||
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EbayMafia private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by zdoes10 Was the green label a high grade and the blue label a low to mid grade? That would kind of make sense based on what was posted previously. I can kind of understand the idea of using a green label to avoid lowering a 9.6 to 7.0 while using a a Blue label if the signature is just lowering a 5.5 to a 5.0. Seems like a reasonable way of differentiating an unverified signature from random writing on the cover for high grade books. |
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I live in RI and Rhode Islanders eat chili with beans.
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esaravo private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @lpgasdude - The book is worth roughly $100 in 7.5. Since it’s pre-1975 and would need signature verification from CBCS, it would cost $27 for grading (membership price) and $25 for verification, plus the cost to ship it to and from CBCS. If I knew the book would get a 1.0 grade jump (since the writing on cover would no longer be a defect), it might almost be worth it, but obviously there is no guarantee the grade would increase. The signature looks legit to me, based on my other books that I had signed by Mr. Adams and are CBCS witnessed Yellow labels. I think I could sell the book for a higher price with a verified signature, but that's not a given, either. | ||
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zdoes10 private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by EbaySeller @esaravo These are the very first time I sent in a book for grading. I did not know about screening & pressing & cleaning of books before you sent them in.    |
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 If I could, I would. I swear.
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DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Siggy I've had 9.8s with interior signatures. They do little to affect the grade. |
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