I vote to abolish grades 9.2, 9.4, 9.6, 9.8 | CBCS Comics

COLLECTOR 11.29K	11.29K conditionfreak private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 1
	All just passing time, and sharing the hobby. But telling the difference between a 9.9 and a 9.6 is relatively easy. Telling the difference between a 9.8 and a 9.9 is a lot tougher. At least in my experience. Like the label says. It is opinion and subjective. It is not science, or written in stone. A Mint book today, nothing like a mint book of yesteryear. And it will change again in the future. I am sure of that. Heck, if I remember correctly. Overstreet never went past NM in their guide. But like I said. All in enjoying a discussion about the hobby. There are no absolute right or wrong answers when it comes to close grades. I remember an Action Comics #1 that was clearly a .5, or at best a 1.0,that was given a 2.5 by CGC. Even though the grading standards have not been changed since then (as far as we know). Borock later said it was a mistake, or he regretted it, or something like that (while at CGC). Big book probably was a factor, I think. Which is not supposed to figure into the equation. But what else could it have been.
	8 years ago	Post 28 • IP flag post

Quote:

Originally Posted by conditionfreak
Close, but no cigar.

For instance. how do you differentiate between a 7.5 and an 8.5? Opinion? If it is raining that day? Six stress marks versus four stress marks on the spine? Age of the book?

"VERY FINE / NEARMINT 9.0 to 7.5

9.0 - VERY FINE / NEARMINT+

8.5 - VERY FINE+

8.0 - VERY FINE

7.5 - VERY FINE-

A VERY FINE comic book appears to have been read a few times and has been handled with care. These grades allow for some more defects than higher grades. Overall an above average copy and still very collectible.
•Some of the above defects along with a fold or crease in the cover that breaks color.
•Some stress marks on spine.
•A few small chips on the cover.
•The cover has some slight surface wear but still has much of its original gloss and there is nothing major wrong with it.
•Sun shadows, dust shadows and tanning can be darker and have more of a visual impact than those in higher grades."

Collector 13	13 Wacker23 private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	If it aint broke, dont fix it.
	8 years ago	Post 26 • IP flag post

Collector 4.79K	4.79K Darkga private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	Of course my thread was mostly tongue in cheek, but anything that starts a good discussion is worth it. It's fun to add a little excitement to a forum whose main topic is the condition of pieces of paper.
	8 years ago	Post 27 • IP flag post

Collector 3.72K	3.72K CopperAgeKids private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 2
	Quote: Originally Posted by DrWatson Quote: Originally Posted by SteveRicketts Quote: Originally Posted by DrWatson On the other hand, 9.9s and 10s are, in my opinion, made up grades. In some instances, and with certain grading companies, I think they are given out based on the submitter's submission tier and their ability to kiss ass. No surprise there. Steve Ricketts is absolutely right. CBCS and CGC do not dole out 9.9's and 10's to those who "kiss ass".Or for any other reason than that the book in question merits the assigned grade of 9.9 or 10. Both grading companies safegaurd the 9.9/10 grades.It is in CGC's and CBCS's best interest to do so, not the other way around.If CGC/CBCS were the slightest bit loose in "doling out" 9.9 or 10's, they would quickly lose market confidence. PGX...not so much. That is why PGX 9.9 and 10 books aren't worth a damn in the open market.
	8 years ago	Post 29 • IP flag post

Collector 7	7 manwithoutfear private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 1
	I might be able to discern what the grading companies think 9.4-9.8 is, but honestly there is not much difference. I saw a post where someone said 9.8 prices were taking a hit recently. I think that would be a good thing. The prices they commanded were a bit silly honestly. 9 or above is great in any age.
	8 years ago	Post 30 • IP flag post

Collector 4.79K	4.79K Darkga private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	Quote: Originally Posted by manwithoutfear I might be able to discern what the grading companies think 9.4-9.8 is, but honestly there is not much difference. I saw a post where someone said 9.8 prices were taking a hit recently. I think that would be a good thing. The prices they commanded were a bit silly honestly. 9 or above is great in any age. I agree. A minor, hard to spot spine tick should not half the value of something. Either the 9.8 value is inflated or the 9.6 value should not be that far off. I'm slowly becoming more accepting of my collection not being all 9.8, but I do upgrade copies when I can if reasonable.
	8 years ago	Post 31 • IP flag post

Why just the women? I like bears. 3.43K	3.43K Gaard private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	Reading this thread got me thinking... I'm pretty sure when I was a kid back in the '70s there were no numbers for grades. So, when was the number system established? and why? Did it have to do with $$?
	8 years ago	Post 32 • IP flag post

Collector 2.07K	2.07K Jerkfro private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	Let us go one step further and abolish all grading companies
	8 years ago	Post 33 • IP flag post

I've spent years perfecting my brand of assholery. 56.18K	56.18K DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	Quote: Originally Posted by Gaard Reading this thread got me thinking... I'm pretty sure when I was a kid back in the '70s there were no numbers for grades. So, when was the number system established? and why? Did it have to do with $$? Giving something a numerical value makes it easier to quantify. This, in turn, makes it easier to assign value and transform something into a commodity. As a result, one can assign value along 27 different price points instead of the ten or so grades on the traditional scale. So, yes, it has to do with money.
	8 years ago	Post 34 • IP flag post

Collector 15.24K	15.24K BrianGreensnips private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	Quote: Originally Posted by conditionfreak Close, but no cigar. For instance. how do you differentiate between a 7.5 and an 8.5? Opinion? If it is raining that day? Six stress marks versus four stress marks on the spine? Age of the book? "VERY FINE / NEARMINT 9.0 to 7.5 9.0 - VERY FINE / NEARMINT+ 8.5 - VERY FINE+ 8.0 - VERY FINE 7.5 - VERY FINE- A VERY FINE comic book appears to have been read a few times and has been handled with care. These grades allow for some more defects than higher grades. Overall an above average copy and still very collectible. •Some of the above defects along with a fold or crease in the cover that breaks color. •Some stress marks on spine. •A few small chips on the cover. •The cover has some slight surface wear but still has much of its original gloss and there is nothing major wrong with it. •Sun shadows, dust shadows and tanning can be darker and have more of a visual impact than those in higher grades."
	8 years ago	Post 36 • IP flag post

COLLECTOR 3.3K	3.3K JWKyle private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	It could have worked out a little different http://comicgrader.com/#newsflash
	8 years ago	Post 38 • IP flag post

I vote to abolish grades 9.2, 9.4, 9.6, 9.81293