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When is it advisable to press/re-slab in hopes of improving value?12873

Collector brandon77 private msg quote post Address this user
A few of my 9.0-9.4 range slabs - that were never pressed - have appreciated enough over the past 6-7 years to consider re-slabbing.

Question - Does CBCS offer a type of screening service that will examine my already slabbed 9.4, and "guarantee" that it will grade up if broken out/cleaned/pressed/re-slabbed? And if not, just return it intact I suppose (for a fee obviously).

I realize this is an old question, but I never really thought I owned anything worth considering until very recently, so am unaware of the general wisdom on it.

Thanks
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Collector Bronte private msg quote post Address this user
@brandon77

There are no guarantees. I sent in a CBCS slab to CBCS and asked them to screen it for possible increase after press. They did a press and it was the same grade.

That was my only disappointment with their pressing. I have had many very successful positives so I tack that one up as a glitch.

But as I mentioned, there are no guarantees even if they did the grading initially.
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Collector Jabberwookie private msg quote post Address this user
We just had a similar post to this where someone cracked a 9.8 and it came back 9.6.

It really comes down to value for you. As Bronte said, there aren’t any guarantees, so check the values and see if it’s worth a press and maybe moving up to 9.2 or 9.4.

In many cases, the cost versus the increase in value can be a wash.

Definitely check out those book values.
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Collector crock private msg quote post Address this user
I sent a Journey into Mystery 83 to be cleaned and pressed and the grade dropped from a 3.5 to a 3.0. They politly told me to suck it up buttercup.
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Collector KatKomics private msg quote post Address this user
They do have a press screen option. They will not crack and press if they dont think it will help the book...although as mentioned it could still come back unchanged.
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COLLECTOR earthshaker01 private msg quote post Address this user
The best one I recieved back was one I cracked and pressed a 1947 comic that was 8.5 and came back a 9.6. Value went from 300 to 2k. If you know what you are looking for and what to do it's an easy decision which are good candidates. I have done this on numerous comics amd only recall one time the grade came back less than what it started at.
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Collector crock private msg quote post Address this user
I sent an ASM 46 9.0 to cgc for a clean and press and it came back a 9.4. It cuts both ways.
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Collector xkonk private msg quote post Address this user
As @KatKomics says, that's exactly what the press screen is for. They don't look to see if the book will look nicer, they look to see if it will go up in grade. The pressers can't guarantee that it will, because they aren't the graders, but it's what you're asking for. I believe in threads somewhere they've said that they can evaluate a book through a slab but obviously it's harder than having the raw in hand.
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Collector Jabberwookie private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by xkonk
As @KatKomics says, that's exactly what the press screen is for. They don't look to see if the book will look nicer, they look to see if it will go up in grade. The pressers can't guarantee that it will, because they aren't the graders, but it's what you're asking for. I believe in threads somewhere they've said that they can evaluate a book through a slab but obviously it's harder than having the raw in hand.



That would be my big concern if I were in the OPs shoes.

He said they were in the 9.0-9.4 range.

There’s limited reward, but a lot of risk there.
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Collector Nuffsaid111 private msg quote post Address this user
Had a 9.0 Green Hornet #1 with a "3 inch fold on back cover".
You could see the fold within the case.

Got it professionally pressed - the 3" fold completely gone" - it no longer showed up in the grader notes. And it came back as a .....

drum roll.....
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9.0

Made total sense to me
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Collector crock private msg quote post Address this user
I did not see a press screen option when I submitted my JIM 83. If a book is worth several thousand dollars a when it arrives at csbc it should be an automatic press screen. I recently submitted a csbc FF #5 4.5 to cgc for a cross grade clean and press and they called me and told me that it more than likely drop half a grade and asked me if wanted to continue. If they would've called beforehand I would have obviously not had it regraded and saved about $450 for the service.
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Collector Bronte private msg quote post Address this user
There is always a gamble the book would go down. Just like its a gamble the book will go up. I think that's just "understood".

I submitted a book to CCS and it dropped 1 full point and white to off white. I was pissed. I even wondered if they swapped books. However, thats the gamble you take. Over time after I got over the initial anger, it is what it is. And I'm willing to gamble again when my finances are in better shape on a high value book. Hulk 181 9.4.
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Collector Siggy private msg quote post Address this user
Quote:
Originally Posted by brandon77
A few of my 9.0-9.4 range slabs - that were never pressed - have appreciated enough over the past 6-7 years to consider re-slabbing.

Question - Does CBCS offer a type of screening service that will examine my already slabbed 9.4, and "guarantee" that it will grade up if broken out/cleaned/pressed/re-slabbed? And if not, just return it intact I suppose (for a fee obviously).

I realize this is an old question, but I never really thought I owned anything worth considering until very recently, so am unaware of the general wisdom on it.

Thanks


I think the only time the "g" word is comfortably used is in reference to the Authentic Signature Program.
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Collector Jabberwookie private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by Nuffsaid111
Had a 9.0 Green Hornet #1 with a "3 inch fold on back cover".
You could see the fold within the case.

Got it professionally pressed - the 3" fold completely gone" - it no longer showed up in the grader notes. And it came back as a .....

drum roll.....
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.
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9.0

Made total sense to me



Ouch!

Would you still say it’s worth it?
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Collector Jabberwookie private msg quote post Address this user
@Bronte

If you want to sell that Hulk 181 now...

Just kidding.

It’s on my list, but probably not in my budget right now.
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Collector Bronte private msg quote post Address this user
@Jabberwookie

I bought it many moons ago. I couldn't afford it now if my life depended on it. I plan on sending 2/3 of my copies in for pressing once I get an insurance check. The 8.5 seems like it has a possible increase potential too.


Grader Notes:  Front Cover Small Stress Lines  Right Bottom Back Cover Wrinkle  Right Bottom Front Cover Lite Wear  Right Bottom Front Cover Small Wear Breaks Color  Right Center Front Cover Small Dent  Right Top Back Cover Bend  Right Top Front Cover Small Wear Breaks Color
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Collector Nuffsaid111 private msg quote post Address this user
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Ouch!

Would you still say it’s worth it?


Ummmmmmmm..... let me think.... a 9.0 with a major fold to a 9.0 without a major fold. Hmmmm. Nope - not worth it.

Instead of Dorothy repeating over and over "There's No Place Like Home; There's No Place Like Home".
I just say "It's all Subjective; It's all Subjective; It's all Subjective".

It worked for her; don't think its working for me
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Collector Bronte private msg quote post Address this user
Ok. Talk is cheap and ill always find an excuse. I just dropped off 4 books to fedex.


All CGC graded.
Hulk 181 9.4
Hulk 181 8.5
Batman 121. 6.0
Batman 121. 5.0

With my crappy attitude watch one come back restored.....
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Collector Jabberwookie private msg quote post Address this user
@Nuffsaid111

Bummer.

I wasn't sure if having the fold removed was enough to salvage it, but I have to admit, I'm a little surprised that removing the fold had no effect.

That stinks...
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Collector Jabberwookie private msg quote post Address this user
@Bronte

Good luck!

Can't wait to see those returned.

I think you've inspired me to submit my three this week.

Moon Knight 1 (9.2)

Guardians of the Galaxy 1 (9.6)

And I'm torn between Daredevil 181 (9.4)and The Demon 7 (7.0)

For giggles, I made my predictions on grade.

I'll have to update and see how off I am!
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Collector Bronte private msg quote post Address this user
@Jabberwookie

I may not be the inspiration you need. I didn't look at the address when they retyped it and the city didn't match. So I go back.

She says it happens but if the street address is correct and zip code. You are fine. I leave and then it dawns on me I forgot to get signature confirmation. I'm tempted to say screw it what can happen? But I decide that nearly 20k in books is enough to swallow my pride. I go in and she states companies need to sign for the books regardless. I tell her I need it on the receipt. She cancels the entire order and starts from scratch. I tell her that the only good thing is I get to see her again.

Sigh...... the things we do for comics.


Edit they did have cool posters for sale though.


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Collector Nuffsaid111 private msg quote post Address this user
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Edit they did have cool posters for sale though.


This brings back memories of San Diego Comic Con on a Sunday afternoon. Taking all my Exclusives, artwork, comics and going to the FEDEX center nearby the Convention Hall to deliver home in NY.

I'd see that FEDEX poster rotisserie and as cool as it is here and now; but when you've spent 18 hours a day for 4.5 days with 200000 peeps in a crowded convention hall full of comics; that rotisserie at the end of the week was like "blah!" LOLOLOL
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Collector Bronte private msg quote post Address this user
I haven't been to a convention since 90s and even then it was only a few hundred folks max. (Hotel lobby) I don't think I could handle that many folks around me. I'd go crazy.
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Collector GAC private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by Bronte
Ok. Talk is cheap and ill always find an excuse. I just dropped off 4 books to fedex.


All CGC graded.
Hulk 181 9.4
Hulk 181 8.5
Batman 121. 6.0
Batman 121. 5.0

With my crappy attitude watch one come back restored.....


This is awesome!! Best of luck @Bronte!! Please post here when they come back.

I CPR'd my 2 Hulk 181's...they're coming back end of this week. I sent them in across the street for the sole reason that their Pressing TATs are normal. They were sent as 4.5 and 6.0.....they're coming back as a 5.0 and 6.0....only 1 grade point bump....but I'll take it.


This is what was sent (cracked out)





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Collector Bronte private msg quote post Address this user
I did it through cgc because at the tier I was at, they grade the books on fast track and press on fast track by default. Im looking at less than a few weeks for both sets of books to be pressed and graded. Much faster than anywhere else. Plus I had good luck with my 6 copies of amazing Spider-man 194s pressed by them.

I'll post when I get them back. But as I mentioned, there are no guarantees. I'm just praying they don't come back lower.....

Edit

I left mine in case. I figured it might be extra weight for shipping, but its extra protection in general since the slabs are being removed regardless.

Gratz on the grade bump.
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Collector GAC private msg quote post Address this user
@Bronte Correct...mine went on the Express tier..10 business day for Pressing and (now) 8 business day for Grading (it was 5 business days for Grading when I sent my books in Aug 20). Really fast TAT. My books are scheduled for delivery on Friday.

I'll tell you, it was nerve racking to check the Grades when I got the shipping notification.
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Collector Bronte private msg quote post Address this user
Mine were split. Prolly get 2 separate shipments.

10 day press and same day on grading. On walk through tier.

So you figure less than 2 weeks on hulk

The batman books will be same tier as yourself.

Maybe 3 weeks on batman books.
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Collector GAC private msg quote post Address this user
@Bronte Super fast TAT!!! Best of luck!!! 🤞 for grade bumps!!
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Collector EbaySeller private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by Jabberwookie
That would be my big concern if I were in the OPs shoes.

He said they were in the 9.0-9.4 range.

There’s limited reward, but a lot of risk there.


@Jabberwookie I was kind of thinking the opposite. I was thinking the fact that they are 9.0-9.4 is a good starting point as eliminating one or two small creases might double the value in some cases. I would never crack a 9.6, but a current 8.5-9.2 would probably be my most likely target for pressing.
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Collector Jabberwookie private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by Jabberwookie
That would be my big concern if I were in the OPs shoes.

He said they were in the 9.0-9.4 range.

There’s limited reward, but a lot of risk there.


@Jabberwookie I was kind of thinking the opposite. I was thinking the fact that they are 9.0-9.4 is a good starting point as eliminating one or two small creases might double the value in some cases. I would never crack a 9.6, but a current 8.5-9.2 would probably be my most likely target for pressing.


That is definitely possible, and an 8.5 seems like a really nice sweet spot to be in.

My take was if you have a 9.4, then you really only have the option to get a 9.6 or 9.8, if you go up.

Even with a press, you’re gambling on the subjective part not keeping you were you are or knocking you down a little.

Admittedly, the recent post of someone cracking a slab and getting a lower grade is fresh in my mind and might be swaying me more than it should.

But, I don’t disagree with your take.
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