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Are previews becoming a thing?12855

Collector BrashSmurf private msg quote post Address this user
On the new comictom101 video 2 new preview books made the top 10, first it was Miles Morales. Now its these two books




Are preview appearances really becoming a big thing for collectors?
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Collector TheSickness private msg quote post Address this user
what happens is the app creates it as a key which causes people to buy, then 1 week later tom talks about an increase in sales over that week period... all created by the app.. its fake news and market manipulation... to answer your question, yes its a thing, but not a good one
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Collector dpiercy private msg quote post Address this user
I’ve never cared for Previews first appearances or first printed image or whatever you want to call it. I’m interested in the first comic book appearance, but that’s me.
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Collector Nuffsaid111 private msg quote post Address this user
Others can buy it; I certainly won't. Unless I come across one for a few bucks - in which case I will sell it to someone.
Snake oil to me
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Beaten by boat oars Studley_Dudley private msg quote post Address this user
I'm sure to some people, previews are a thing. I don't buy them, and I don't know if I even have any anymore that weren't built into an already published comic and not a Wizard or some preview mag. I like how everything can be a key now as long as some talking head hypes it up.
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Collector Zombie_Head private msg quote post Address this user
Comictom and keycollector are a joke don’t listen to them. Previews shouldn’t be considered first appearance since it’s not in a comic book.

@thesickness is right they are con artists.
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Collector moodswing private msg quote post Address this user
This is one of the treads I definitely do not like. Not digging the 2nd/3rd print popularity either but the market dictates what they want to spend their money on.
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Collector HulkSmash private msg quote post Address this user
Previews are exactly that and nothing more. The book is what counts.
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Collector GAC private msg quote post Address this user
Previews I can see being something to Completists..they'd probably be into it....most collectors, probably not so much.
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Collector xjagnew private msg quote post Address this user
Distracts the "collectors" from legit books... which is fine by me!
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Collector infinityG private msg quote post Address this user
It's pretty silly honestly to pay that much for a catalog.
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Collector theCapraAegagrus private msg quote post Address this user
Another niche inside a niche inside a niche?
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Collector Enelson private msg quote post Address this user
No
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Collector Huntergreene private msg quote post Address this user
It feels to me like watching a trailer and saying I saw the movie.
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Collector Jabberwookie private msg quote post Address this user
I sure hope not.

Just what we need is one more thing to complicate first appearances.

And from what is essentially a catalogue? Mark me down as a hard pass.
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Collector the420bandito private msg quote post Address this user
This is dopey. It's like saying this is the 1st appearance of Batman...


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Collector Siggy private msg quote post Address this user
There are some who feel the Hulk 181 ads are 1st appearances, even though they came out after Hulk 180 LOL They actually place them above Hulk 180! I'm guessing because they can't afford either one,

But it's a crazy hobby. Money talks before truth, i.e. Capes #1 is not the 1st appearance of Rick Grimes, but ASM #365 is the 1st appearance of Spider-Man 2099(???). Both companies say so. Maybe some day they'll start labeling ads as 1st appearances too, if the money is right.
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Collector Jabberwookie private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by Siggy
There are some who feel the Hulk 181 ads are 1st appearances, even though they came out after Hulk 180 LOL They actually place them above Hulk 180! I'm guessing because they can't afford either one,

But it's a crazy hobby. Money talks before truth, i.e. Capes #1 is not the 1st appearance of Rick Grimes, but ASM #365 is the 1st appearance of Spider-Man 2099(???). Both companies say so. Maybe some day they'll start labeling ads as 1st appearances too, if the money is right.


See, you touch on something that I think is important.

A first appearance should be just that. If Super Ninja Monkey Pirate first appears in a preview, then that should be his first appearance, and it should be true across the board.

The problem has always been the way the market perceives, I think.

And, I get it. I would hate to shell out a couple grand for Hulk 181 to only see it drop because 180 is the “true” first appearance.

It’s just a mess...
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Collector MutantMania private msg quote post Address this user
I hope it is and it keeps on going. I have tons of old Previews in my storage from when I had my account with Diamond. Who knows what first appearances can be discovered. I sold the Previews 1st Spawn copies I had stuffed in a box for years for $$$ recently
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Collector GAC private msg quote post Address this user
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There are some who feel the Hulk 181 ads are 1st appearances, even though they came out after Hulk 180 LOL They actually place them above Hulk 180! I'm guessing because they can't afford either one,

But it's a crazy hobby. Money talks before truth, i.e. Capes #1 is not the 1st appearance of Rick Grimes, but ASM #365 is the 1st appearance of Spider-Man 2099(???). Both companies say so. Maybe some day they'll start labeling ads as 1st appearances too, if the money is right.


See, you touch on something that I think is important.

A first appearance should be just that. If Super Ninja Monkey Pirate first appears in a preview, then that should be his first appearance, and it should be true across the board.


Where do you draw the line? Preview is not a comic book, it's a catalogue. Harley Quinn's first appearance was an animated TV show. What if a characters first appearance was in a colouring book or an article in TV Guide?

I agree that there should be a standardized definition but even that wouldn't change how the market perceive books like Hulk 180 vs. 181. But for me, I draw the line that a characters 1st appearance should at the very least be an appearance in a comic book.
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Collector Siggy private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by GAC
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Originally Posted by Jabberwookie
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Originally Posted by Siggy
There are some who feel the Hulk 181 ads are 1st appearances, even though they came out after Hulk 180 LOL They actually place them above Hulk 180! I'm guessing because they can't afford either one,

But it's a crazy hobby. Money talks before truth, i.e. Capes #1 is not the 1st appearance of Rick Grimes, but ASM #365 is the 1st appearance of Spider-Man 2099(???). Both companies say so. Maybe some day they'll start labeling ads as 1st appearances too, if the money is right.


See, you touch on something that I think is important.

A first appearance should be just that. If Super Ninja Monkey Pirate first appears in a preview, then that should be his first appearance, and it should be true across the board.


Where do you draw the line? Preview is not a comic book, it's a catalogue. Harley Quinn's first appearance was an animated TV show. What if a characters first appearance was in a colouring book or an article in TV Guide?

I agree that there should be a standardized definition but even that wouldn't change how the market perceive books like Hulk 180 vs. 181. But for me, I draw the line that a characters 1st appearance should at the very least be an appearance in a comic book.


Exactly. If comic book cannon is going to be dismissed, then the 1st appearance is the original art or the note pad doodle. NOW try to afford it lol
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Collector Jabberwookie private msg quote post Address this user
@GAC Fair point.

And it does make me wonder about digital comics and first appearances.

I wonder what that’ll look like?
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Collector GAC private msg quote post Address this user
@Jabberwookie So true!! If the physical comic disappears we'll all be collecting computer files..lol!
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Collector Wraith private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by TheSickness
what happens is the app creates it as a key which causes people to buy, then 1 week later tom talks about an increase in sales over that week period... all created by the app.. its fake news and market manipulation... to answer your question, yes its a thing, but not a good one
I think you are missing the first step .. key c and comic tom obtain drek they think can be pumped ....
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Collector infinityG private msg quote post Address this user
i think key collector is a great app for collectors but honestly wish the guy Nick who runs and founded the app remove the prices. everything else is great about it.

and 1st appearances are when characters debut in a STORY not a CATALOG.
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