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 Have I told you about the time I dropped off 3,000 comics at SDCC?
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Scifinator private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I won't blow up the "TV Happenings" thread, but here is a statement by the lead actor of the upcoming "Infidel" which today rings especially true for multiple reasons imho. clickable text |
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| Hahahaha, oh you humans. | ||
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 Masculinity takes a holiday.
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| @Scifinator I just watched the documentary "The Social Delimma" on Netflex. I found it so compelling and informative that I made m kids watch. I thought they would quit halfway, but they stayed engaged to the end. If you want to know why the left/right divide in the world has reached Civil War levels, this documentary gives a pretty compelling explanation. Social Media uses your profile and amps up your feelings by sending us things that fit our worldview. But it also does a very good job of filtering out information that does not fit our worldview. After watching my kids were legitimately concerned and claimed they were deleting social media from their phones and computers. Not sure how true that is though. Highly recommend learning what that documentary has to say though. It's got behind-the-curtain interviews with developers from Facebook, Instagram, etc. Watch it and you will see how it ties in to your post. | ||
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Have I told you about the time I dropped off 3,000 comics at SDCC?
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| @EbaySeller Thanks for that. I will give it a view. I pretty much avoid twitter, fakebook news/ads, and instagram. I do go to specific news sites, but specifically avoid google news searches. | ||
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 It was a one trick pony show but always hilarious.
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| Just watched The Social Dilema....god help us all. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Scifinator Right-wing fringe views aren't helpful. Or relevant, to a comic book forum. But hey, if you want to post bunk, I can at least correct the record for you. From your posted article: "Caviezel addressed the growth of left-wing political censorship and intimidation. He said combating “cancel culture” is one of the reasons he starred in Infidel." "The growth of left-wing political censorship and intimidation?" Please. Isn't cancel culture that perennial war on Christmas crap, where every year Rush Limbaugh screams about boycotting Starbucks? Or how Sean Hannity keeps attacking Rachel Maddow advertisers? How Donald Trump calls for NFL protestors to be fired, or upset MAGA fans insist they will stop watching the NBA? The fringe nutbags on the right INVENTED "cancel" culture. They complain about it so hard because they love doing it. And how about the growth of right-wing terrorism and the escalation of violence intended to disrupt peaceful protests? That's the "intimidation and violence" that's actually documented by law enforcement. CNN: White supremacy is "most lethal threat" to the US, DHS draft assessment says. Politico: DHS draft document: White supremacists are greatest terror threat. MarketWatch: Homeland Security whistle-blower says he was pressured to alter intelligence on Russia and white supremacists to match Trump preferences. Boston Globe: DHS must address the threat of white supremacists, even if Trump won't. Washington Post: Who caused the violence at protests? It wasn’t antifa. The Intercept: Leaked documents show police knew far-right extremists were the real threat at protests, not "antifa" Reuters: "The part of the document seen by Reuters did not provide any specific evidence of extremist-driven violence, but noted that white supremacists were working online to increase tensions between protesters and law enforcement by calling for acts of violence against both groups." Forbes: 51 protesters facing federal charges - yet no sign of antifa involvement. If you want to get into a debate about "political censorship, intimidation, and violence," I can do that. But I have to warn you: the facts are on my side on this one. It is right-wing violence and intimidation that is the greatest threat right now, not some fantasy about "Antifa:" a group that literally doesn't even exist. But here's an example of an anti-fascist from the movies for ya:  |
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Have I told you about the time I dropped off 3,000 comics at SDCC?
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Scifinator private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @Tedsaid - Interesting, I hope that you didn't infer that I was espousing an alt right fringe view. If so, you assume too much. Quite to the contrary, I viewed Caviezel comments as, (unfortunately all too rare from Hollywood) a reasoned commentary that was very poignant for yesterday, the past several months, and decade for that matter. In addition, the thought occurred to me that some may want to check out the movie after seeing his commentary as to what some of the deeper premise may be. Your unreasoned and negative response is exactly why I didn't post in the TV Happenings thread. Now, i have more important things to do than continue this banter with you. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Scifinator No, I thought Caviezel was the one espousing a ... well, let's call it a misguided and discredited right-wing view. And you posted it. And further comments show you believe that view to be correct. You are wrong, of course. I provided citations, while you post only opinion. I win. Cheers. |
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| Are you using get the media as fact LMFAO Sure let's use a one sidea argument by idiots who screech orange man bad All government sucks, too bad they have a lot of idiots tricked into believing they care |
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Quote:Originally Posted by BrashSmurf Actually, chaos sucks. Thoughtful folks are more concerned about the erosion of civility in an emerging shallow state than taking sides. Opinions informed by conspiracy theories and bumper sticker ideology discourages rational intellectual discourse.   . |
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 I hear their hourly rate is outrageous!
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| I've learned this much from life, We're not always right and they're not always wrong. I wish more people felt that way, sadly... |
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It was a one trick pony show but always hilarious.
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GAC private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Part of the problem (in general, nothing specific here) is the outward smugness people have when they think they are right. | ||
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| @sportshort you nailed it, brother. I enjoy intelligent discussion and debate but I find it quickly goes south when you engage with people who have to be right. After all, when you have to be right, anyone who doesn’t agree with you has to be wrong. | ||
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| It has been 2 months since someone/anyone got a timeout. -edit for better understanding |
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It was a one trick pony show but always hilarious.
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GAC private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @michaelekrupp @sportshort Exactly!!! | ||
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It was a one trick pony show but always hilarious.
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GAC private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @Towmater Yes!! I noticed that too....and little to no thread locks! | ||
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| @GAC I think you misunderstood my post. I was referencing that this type of thread generally gets a poster a timeout. It has been 2 months since the last one was given out. If that how you took my post then I apologise for this one. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by GAC @GAC You know what's really scary? The Nazi's were convinced that they were the good guys. If we don't want to repeat history it's important to understand it. Nazi's were the National Socialist party...hardly a conservative movement. In deeply impoverished Post WW1 Germany they appealed to the poor labor class. They raised money to pay for work breaks for low wage laborers. They didn't think the Jews were beneath them, they believed Jews were the bankers and business owners who were causing the misery of the poor average German citizen. They were convinced that they were "punching up" against wealthy oppressors, so their cruelty required no restraint. And it's all ok, because they are absolutely convinced that they are the good guys, the oppressed, the downtrodden and mistreated. To make a better more "fair" society they Nationalized Germanies industries and determined the allocation of goods and resources for all citizens. These are far left concepts, not far right. These are the concepts of people who truly believe they are operating in the interest of social justice. |
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It was a one trick pony show but always hilarious.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Towmater @Towmater No apologies necessary... I understood your post.... my comment was that these types of threads can remain unlocked (and this one still is and no one"s been given a time out yet) if the people posting remain cool, calm and collected...no issues whatsoever since the last suspension 2 months ago, coincidence?  |
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Quote:Originally Posted by EbaySeller @EbaySeller Yup, I hear you....extreme rightousness on either side of the political scale does no good for anyone. |
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| Just to set the historical record straight, Nazis were NOT socialists. And 1930's Germany is no where near the 21st century United States. Hitler was a fascist. He orchestrated the murder of socialists in his party. Politically, economically and culturally, post WWI Germany was ripe for a man like him. Here is a good article on it. | ||
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| And by the way, I'm jumping in on this because I am tired of both sides comparing the other side to Hitler and Nazis. I've studied German history and have actually read Mein Kampf. Hitler was a lunatic, racist madman. He was also a great orator. I'm not saying it can't happen again, but we are nowhere there yet. | ||
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| If I remember correctly, fascism (at least the Italian form as envisioned by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile) does not have a defined economic policy. It is highly nationalistic. Probably more xenophobic than racist as the aim of the ideology is to harken back to a grander time and for the citizens to strive towards that lofty goal of days gone by. Jesse can probably add to this or correct me. I'm going on memory of some stuff I read in 2009. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Jesse_O The Treaty of Versailles was one of the biggest pieces of victors justice that ever occurred until the Soviet Union decided to take reparations from everyone after WWII. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by BrashSmurf Calling other people on the boards an idiot is the kind of escalation that gets you banned. So just keep it up, if that's what you want. Otherwise, no need to compound stupidity with rudeness. |
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Have I told you about the time I dropped off 3,000 comics at SDCC?
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| @Tedsaid i don’t believe @BrashSmurf referred to any “people on the boards” as idiots. I believe he was referring to the blanket of media articles/commentary that was posted by another member. | ||
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It was a one trick pony show but always hilarious.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Tedsaid I don't think he was calling anyone in the forum an idiot...I think he meant the leftist media...but even if I'm wrong about that what would you call your post..."You are wrong, of course. I provided citations, while you post only opinion. I win. Cheers" ? ... it's a pretty smug, in your face, provacative post wouldn't you say? This is the type of back and forth posts that get people suspended and threads locked. There appears to be no genuine interest in exploring or even entertaining debate. This is, "I'm right, you're wrong and here's a bunch of links I subscribe to that support my position". It's been done to death here and it's old and tiresome. The moment one knows (or believes they know) the others political slant, it's already been decided they're an adversary or an allie. No one tries to understand the other person's side of the arguement....and by the way most people are not 100% left thinking on everything or 100% right thinking on everything...most people have left and right thinking on different issues. @Tedsaid LOL!!! WOW dude...you've got issues. |
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I hear their hourly rate is outrageous!
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Quote:Originally Posted by GAC This |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Jesse_O @Jesse_O Are you saying that the Nazi’s were not the National Socialist party? Or are you saying that all that centralized power in the hands of a madman morphed them into something far more disturbing? I agree that Facist and Holocaust references should not be used lightly as comparisons. But my point was not about Socialism per se. My point was that the road to hell is often paved by those who are most insistent that their intentions are for the best. I believe @GAC was making a similar point. |
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