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@MR_SigS explain why this is nothing like buying a PGX comic, when trying to compare a label's estetic. We all k kw why no one wants pgx and it has nothing to do with their label. I don't have time, got to mow lawn.


I understand completely why it's not exactly the same, but it's also not a complete opposite. They each would shift the demand curve for different reasons. The PGX demand curve would be well left of the CBCS curve, but it would be foolish to say that the label has 0 impact on demand.
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You think I'm joking, I'm not. earthshaker01 private msg quote post Address this user
So an Action comics #1 9.0 graded by cgc, with their current label would be more valuable than the same comic removed from cgc case, and then put in cbcs case with current label?
Well to all who believe that send me your lists of comics with the current cbcs label, and I will buy them at a reduced value based on the assumption the label affects the true value, and not the respected grading service.
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If I could, I would. I swear. DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user
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Here is the beauty of all the people having their orders held by cbcs or CFP in an effort to wait for néw labels. I submitted two orders under the 4 to 6 week envelope less that 2 weeks ago and they are already in the grading room as of last week. I think it was 11 days from the time they recieved to grading email notification to be exact. By all means move my stuff to the front of the line, because in the end, months or years from now none of the label stuff will make a difference in the value of my books. No one is going to look at the cbcs label now, then, or the future label and say, "No sir, I won't buy it or collect that comic book due to the label."
BTW I have two larger orders as well in the 8 to 12 week window, please move them up for grading as well. Thanks peace out (mic drop)

I won't buy a book with the current label.
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@MR_SigS explain why this is nothing like buying a PGX comic, when trying to compare a label's estetic. We all k kw why no one wants pgx and it has nothing to do with their label. I don't have time, got to mow lawn.


You meant @reggieb, I'll assume.
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You think I'm joking, I'm not. earthshaker01 private msg quote post Address this user
@MR_SigS yes. I just know you probably know all the past discrepancies with pgx better than I, and could really explain why a cbcs label vs. PGX is nor even on the same playing field.
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So an Action comics #1 9.0 graded by cgc, with their current label would be more valuable than the same comic removed from cgc case, and then put in cbcs case with current label?
Well to all who believe that send me your lists of comics with the current cbcs label, and I will buy them at a reduced value based on the assumption the label affects the true value, and not the respected grading service.


Clearly the book itself makes a difference, a 9.0 AC #1 derives its value predominantly from the book contained. I would say that yes, the value would be different for most books, but maybe not that one. I don't know by how much the label affects the value.

But it's probably a fixed amount, not a percentage. That is, it's probably somewhere around the cost of a re-slab, not exactly the price of a re-slab, because there are some people (albeit probably a small number) that are completely OK with the current label, those that just wouldn't buy it, and those that would re-slab it, for that group they would discount the value by cost of reslab + whatever they value the amount of time that service takes.

So you have less demand, so the price drops. But it's not like it drops 10% of the value or something. It's probably like $20-30 or something like that (note I've not done anything to actually quantify the drop in value, I'm just pulling it out of my head - but that's not relevant to my point). For an AC #1 that's a drop in the bucket - and a re-slab would be 100% worth it for that book, so it probably won't affect value at all. For a modern it's a different story.

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I won't buy a book with the current label.


I probably wouldn't either, unless it was a great deal on a book I really want, and I'd just assume I can re-slab it later.
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Still working on it. I'll let you guys know what's going on as soon as I can.
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I only have a few slabs. When I decided to send a couple of my own books in for grading I chose CBCS, partially because of the aesthetics. Simply, I like the label better. I assumed CBCS and CGC were at least equal in their grading quality. When I got the slabs back...with the new label...I was surprised and disappointed. The new label is less professional and the font is less readable. I also find it odd that the website headers have not been changed to show the new labels. They only show the original ones. Short of a tremendous deal, I won't purchase a slabbed book with the current label.
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If you're still looking for opinions, the original label is far better than any of the new contenders. And I'm looking forward to seeing label version 3.
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@MR_SigS yes. I just know you probably know all the past discrepancies with pgx better than I, and could really explain why a cbcs label vs. PGX is nor even on the same playing field.



PGX could have the greatest label I've ever seen, making me melt with warm fuzzy feelings. But I'd likely pass it up.

CBCS and CGC (non wavy era) labels makes no difference to me. I crack out most of my books, so the label means squat.

I buy the book.
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Collector Sirtoddington private msg quote post Address this user
I was bored. Going off the original but staying simple & still having plenty of foil.
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Collector Mio private msg quote post Address this user
Nice logo. A futile effort, though, since they will double-down on an "ok" one. I am at least optimistic that the overall label will look nicer than the "what were you thinking" rivet version.
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Yeah. Hopefully it comes out soon. or is currently about to be used.
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If I could, I would. I swear. DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user
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Nice logo. A futile effort, though, since they will double-down on an "ok" one. I am at least optimistic that the overall label will look nicer than the "what were you thinking" rivet version.


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Not submitting until I see the new label . . .
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Collector Mio private msg quote post Address this user
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Nice logo. A futile effort, though, since they will double-down on an "ok" one. I am at least optimistic that the overall label will look nicer than the "what were you thinking" rivet version.




lol
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Any updates on the label? Remember, "No update is an update" and that's perfectly fine.
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Mr Washington and his friend Mr Washington were wondering if there was an update as well.
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Mr Washington and his friend Mr Washington were wondering if there was an update as well.

LMFAO!!!
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I only have a few slabs. When I decided to send a couple of my own books in for grading I chose CBCS, partially because of the aesthetics. Simply, I like the label better. I assumed CBCS and CGC were at least equal in their grading quality. When I got the slabs back...with the new label...I was surprised and disappointed. The new label is less professional and the font is less readable. I also find it odd that the website headers have not been changed to show the new labels. They only show the original ones. Short of a tremendous deal, I won't purchase a slabbed book with the current label.
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Collector alfie4bonnie private msg quote post Address this user
Your so right i been sending books for years why change things when they are perfect
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Collector OrbitCityComics private msg quote post Address this user
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I only have a few slabs. When I decided to send a couple of my own books in for grading I chose CBCS, partially because of the aesthetics. Simply, I like the label better. I assumed CBCS and CGC were at least equal in their grading quality. When I got the slabs back...with the new label...I was surprised and disappointed. The new label is less professional and the font is less readable. I also find it odd that the website headers have not been changed to show the new labels. They only show the original ones. Short of a tremendous deal, I won't purchase a slabbed book with the current label.


There are still things I like about CBCS over CGC. Autographed book recognition is one and free notes are two of the best services. I like being able to scan the QR code and get the notes before purchasing.
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Originally Posted by Spidey62
I only have a few slabs. When I decided to send a couple of my own books in for grading I chose CBCS, partially because of the aesthetics. Simply, I like the label better. I assumed CBCS and CGC were at least equal in their grading quality. When I got the slabs back...with the new label...I was surprised and disappointed. The new label is less professional and the font is less readable. I also find it odd that the website headers have not been changed to show the new labels. They only show the original ones. Short of a tremendous deal, I won't purchase a slabbed book with the current label.


There are still things I like about CBCS over CGC. Autographed book recognition is one and free notes are two of the best services. I like being able to scan the QR code and get the notes before purchasing.


Just used the QR code service this past week to buy a signed book. Meant the world to me to have the (free) notes so easily available.
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There are still things I like about CBCS over CGC. Autographed book recognition is one and free notes are two of the best services. I like being able to scan the QR code and get the notes before purchasing.


I agree, the free notes make a biiiiiiig difference.
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Collector Mio private msg quote post Address this user
Bueller... ?
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If I could, I would. I swear. DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user

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anything yet?
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Collector OrbitCityComics private msg quote post Address this user
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anything yet?


Ditto the question. I have a slew of books I am waiting to see if I am going to submit. I am not deciding until I see the new logo.
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