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Collector Mr_adam_R private msg quote post Address this user
+1
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COLLECTOR DarthLego private msg quote post Address this user
Are we allowed to disclose our votes yet?
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CBCS Pressing SteveRicketts private msg quote post Address this user
Voting is closed. We have a designer working on our labels now.
I'll share more info soon.
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Rock, Paper, Scissors, Lizard, Spock Tedsaid private msg quote post Address this user
I predict the votes on these particular logos will be all over the place, with no clear winner. I think they are too close to each other and - sorry to say - fairly mediocre. Even my own vote changed from moment to moment somewhat.

But if the powers that be want a label that is simpler, these will do it. And perhaps that is what is needed, if they are using holofoil (or whatever it's called) on the actual cases. I can see that being a problem with the old label.
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Collector Mio private msg quote post Address this user
Waiting with boundless curiosity...
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Collector zosocane private msg quote post Address this user
So the new label is not being unveiled at NYCC?
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Collector Mio private msg quote post Address this user
It does not seem like it...
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If I could, I would. I swear. DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user
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It does not seem like it...

Perhaps they thought they needed additional time so more care and design could go in to the finished product.


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Collector Mio private msg quote post Address this user
Yes, they really need to get itright this time. Whatever the new logo is, it will not be better than the original logo, so hopefully the general design and appeal makes up for it.
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Collector dpiercy private msg quote post Address this user
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Whatever the new logo is, it will not be better than the original logo,


It's great that you are keeping an open mind.
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If I could, I would. I swear. DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user
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Whatever the new logo is, it will not be better than the original logo,


It's great that you are keeping an open mind.

Having an open mind is one thing. Having an opinion based on past experience is another.
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Collector dpiercy private msg quote post Address this user
What a marvelous reply! Golf claps for you, sir.
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Collector Mio private msg quote post Address this user
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Whatever the new logo is, it will not be better than the original logo,


It's great that you are keeping an open mind.


They just showed us options and I prefer the original to all. My mind is as open as my eyes.
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Collector reggieb private msg quote post Address this user
I put my vote in for 1B, I guess I can disclose it since it's closed now. Honestly, shield logos are difficult, there really aren't that many great ones out there. A more simple, flat design to the label with a nice font will go a long way.
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CBCS Pressing SteveRicketts private msg quote post Address this user
We are waiting on the designer to finish the next step. We were hoping to have a label by the time NYCC got here, but coming down to the wire decided to not rush the end result once the deadline for NYCC arrived.

We're close now. It won't be much longer, but we are not going to rush it at this point.
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We are waiting on the designer to finish the next step. We were hoping to have a label by the time NYCC got here, but coming down to the wire decided to not rush the end result once the deadline for NYCC arrived.

We're close now. It won't be much longer, but we are not going to rush it at this point.


Thanks Steve for the update. I really appreciate it.
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Collector alfie4bonnie private msg quote post Address this user
I think the old label is fine its nice and clear you can read it easy the new one is in my opinion terrible
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If I could, I would. I swear. DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user
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I think the old label is fine its nice and clear you can read it easy the new one is in my opinion terrible

This is true. In fact, I have at least two new label books that CFPComics is holding for me to submit for reholding once the new new (new?) label goes into production. It can't be worse, can it?
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Collector Mio private msg quote post Address this user
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I think the old label is fine its nice and clear you can read it easy the new one is in my opinion terrible

This is true. In fact, I have at least two new label books that CFPComics is holding for me to submit for reholding once the new new (new?) label goes into production. It can't be worse, can it?


I think they realise the importance of getting it right this time. I hope they do - and soon.
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I think they realize the importance of getting it right this time. I hope they do - and soon.

I think they do, but oh, man, are they dragging it out. Three months since the disastrous "surprise" release and I had to put my orders on hold. Seven weeks since Steve told us "expect to hear something in the coming weeks." And, in a p/m, the customer service person I'm talking to said "there should be a visible image of what our new labels are going to look like within the next 2-3 weeks." That was three and a half weeks ago.

@SteveRicketts - can you tell us about when the supply of the "new" label will run out? That might at least give us an idea how long this whole thing will drag out. Or is that unrelated?

All this hassle and delay is really sucking the joy out of my first submission. I mean, all we're doing right now is waiting to see if the new new label is an adequate replacement for the one that was sold to us. (And one that looks fantastic, by the way. Don't discount the importance of aesthetics.) It's almost guaranteed that the new label will be some level of disappointment. (Although it is ALSO guaranteed that the new label will be an improvement on the frankenlabel.)

Steve, I really would urge you guys to rethink the "no one will ever get the old label again, ever" policy. Is it really so hard to run off a few thousand of those, and actually fulfill the orders you took before the secret switch?
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You think I'm joking, I'm not. earthshaker01 private msg quote post Address this user
Here is the beauty of all the people having their orders held by cbcs or CFP in an effort to wait for néw labels. I submitted two orders under the 4 to 6 week envelope less that 2 weeks ago and they are already in the grading room as of last week. I think it was 11 days from the time they recieved to grading email notification to be exact. By all means move my stuff to the front of the line, because in the end, months or years from now none of the label stuff will make a difference in the value of my books. No one is going to look at the cbcs label now, then, or the future label and say, "No sir, I won't buy it or collect that comic book due to the label."
BTW I have two larger orders as well in the 8 to 12 week window, please move them up for grading as well. Thanks peace out (mic drop)
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Collector MR_SigS private msg quote post Address this user
@earthshaker01 You and your common sense. *tsk*
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You think I'm joking, I'm not. earthshaker01 private msg quote post Address this user
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@earthshaker01 You and your common sense. *tsk*
I know, right.
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...months or years from now none of the label stuff will make a difference in the value of my books. No one is going to look at the cbcs label now, then, or the future label and say, "No sir, I won't buy it or collect that comic book due to the label..."


Uh, I actually don't think that's true. If the label is ugly, that will, in fact, shift demand left. That lowers the price the market will bear. Just look at values of PGX books. This is, clearly, a different situation. But it does lend evidence that not all slabs and grades are created equal.

No one with good taste wants the current label displayed. I display my slabbed books, I don't want them to look terrible.
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You think I'm joking, I'm not. earthshaker01 private msg quote post Address this user
@MR_SigS explain why this is nothing like buying a PGX comic, when trying to compare a label's estetic. We all k kw why no one wants pgx and it has nothing to do with their label. I don't have time, got to mow lawn.
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@MR_SigS explain why this is nothing like buying a PGX comic, when trying to compare a label's estetic. We all k kw why no one wants pgx and it has nothing to do with their label. I don't have time, got to mow lawn.


I understand completely why it's not exactly the same, but it's also not a complete opposite. They each would shift the demand curve for different reasons. The PGX demand curve would be well left of the CBCS curve, but it would be foolish to say that the label has 0 impact on demand.
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You think I'm joking, I'm not. earthshaker01 private msg quote post Address this user
So an Action comics #1 9.0 graded by cgc, with their current label would be more valuable than the same comic removed from cgc case, and then put in cbcs case with current label?
Well to all who believe that send me your lists of comics with the current cbcs label, and I will buy them at a reduced value based on the assumption the label affects the true value, and not the respected grading service.
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If I could, I would. I swear. DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user
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Here is the beauty of all the people having their orders held by cbcs or CFP in an effort to wait for néw labels. I submitted two orders under the 4 to 6 week envelope less that 2 weeks ago and they are already in the grading room as of last week. I think it was 11 days from the time they recieved to grading email notification to be exact. By all means move my stuff to the front of the line, because in the end, months or years from now none of the label stuff will make a difference in the value of my books. No one is going to look at the cbcs label now, then, or the future label and say, "No sir, I won't buy it or collect that comic book due to the label."
BTW I have two larger orders as well in the 8 to 12 week window, please move them up for grading as well. Thanks peace out (mic drop)

I won't buy a book with the current label.
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@MR_SigS explain why this is nothing like buying a PGX comic, when trying to compare a label's estetic. We all k kw why no one wants pgx and it has nothing to do with their label. I don't have time, got to mow lawn.


You meant @reggieb, I'll assume.
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You think I'm joking, I'm not. earthshaker01 private msg quote post Address this user
@MR_SigS yes. I just know you probably know all the past discrepancies with pgx better than I, and could really explain why a cbcs label vs. PGX is nor even on the same playing field.
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