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I think there are 4 different situations that the graders consider. This is from my own experience submitting, and reading blogs regarding defects.

The first is that there is a commonly found defect peculiar to that specific comic issue, a certain corner that is not cut sharply for instance, in many if not all copies. The second is the "printer's crease", which is a scrunch in the paper that is printed over as if it was flat. A misnomer, because it is actually a defect in the paper before the printer even got hold of it, unless the printing equipment caused the scrunch-up. The third is a mechanically-induced defect, such as a roller crease, an impression, or a scratch from some part of the equipment that runs the entire length/width of the comic.

For these 3, the graders seem to forgive a lot of it. In other words, this comic was made with some type of imperfection right at the printer, so not penalized to a great degree, maybe even ignored. I've had comics with corner tips missing, obviously produced that way, come back with 9.8. Printer's creases 3 inches long ignored. Serious miscuts, ignored. I think if the grader can tell this is the way the comic was produced, it has a chance to be 9.8. Higher than that, maybe not, as people seeing 9.9 or 10.0 on a copy are NOT expecting to see any kind of problem.

The fourth situation is a defect that was likely inflicted AFTER the comic was produced. Folded areas, scrapes, random scratches, etc. Unless it looks machine-made, it will be judged to be honest wear and tear.

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	@chester15 Quote: Originally Posted by chester15 I think there are 4 different situations that the graders consider. This is from my own experience submitting, and reading blogs regarding defects. The first is that there is a commonly found defect peculiar to that specific comic issue, a certain corner that is not cut sharply for instance, in many if not all copies. The second is the "printer's crease", which is a scrunch in the paper that is printed over as if it was flat. A misnomer, because it is actually a defect in the paper before the printer even got hold of it, unless the printing equipment caused the scrunch-up. The third is a mechanically-induced defect, such as a roller crease, an impression, or a scratch from some part of the equipment that runs the entire length/width of the comic. For these 3, the graders seem to forgive a lot of it. In other words, this comic was made with some type of imperfection right at the printer, so not penalized to a great degree, maybe even ignored. I've had comics with corner tips missing, obviously produced that way, come back with 9.8. Printer's creases 3 inches long ignored. Serious miscuts, ignored. I think if the grader can tell this is the way the comic was produced, it has a chance to be 9.8. Higher than that, maybe not, as people seeing 9.9 or 10.0 on a copy are NOT expecting to see any kind of problem. The fourth situation is a defect that was likely inflicted AFTER the comic was produced. Folded areas, scrapes, random scratches, etc. Unless it looks machine-made, it will be judged to be honest wear and tear. This has me wondering if a clean and press would hinder the grade of the book. This could be considered an attempt to reverse the originality of the book by altering the effects of the printing process.
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	Those don't look pressable to me.
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	Press might make it present better, but there are color breaks. Looks like it may have been on top of a bound stack or something. The 2 different angles make me think a stack was tied and caused that damage.
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	The defect by the title and the one on the back appear to be production creases which will not press out. The one under Hulks arm looks like a dent and that would have a chance.
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We should have the forum rate our packages. 40.84K	40.84K HeinzDad private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	I've been led to believe if every book produced has that production error it won't effect the grade. For example, I've seen Savage she Hulk #1 have this in the same area on more than one copy, however not every book. Another book I saw the same roller marks on 5 books but when I looked them up on MCS the few they had didn't. ASM #361 has an error off press with two tiny tears on the bottom of the cover, obviously they all don't however. I'm not sure how grading these goes but its funny another company says it doesn't effect at all, lol.
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	I think there are 4 different situations that the graders consider. This is from my own experience submitting, and reading blogs regarding defects. The first is that there is a commonly found defect peculiar to that specific comic issue, a certain corner that is not cut sharply for instance, in many if not all copies. The second is the "printer's crease", which is a scrunch in the paper that is printed over as if it was flat. A misnomer, because it is actually a defect in the paper before the printer even got hold of it, unless the printing equipment caused the scrunch-up. The third is a mechanically-induced defect, such as a roller crease, an impression, or a scratch from some part of the equipment that runs the entire length/width of the comic. For these 3, the graders seem to forgive a lot of it. In other words, this comic was made with some type of imperfection right at the printer, so not penalized to a great degree, maybe even ignored. I've had comics with corner tips missing, obviously produced that way, come back with 9.8. Printer's creases 3 inches long ignored. Serious miscuts, ignored. I think if the grader can tell this is the way the comic was produced, it has a chance to be 9.8. Higher than that, maybe not, as people seeing 9.9 or 10.0 on a copy are NOT expecting to see any kind of problem. The fourth situation is a defect that was likely inflicted AFTER the comic was produced. Folded areas, scrapes, random scratches, etc. Unless it looks machine-made, it will be judged to be honest wear and tear.
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	On a Millennium Batman that I just got graded, it is coming back as a 9.6 with the following notes: manufactured with extra staple holes, small indent bottom left front cover. So in my case, the small indent dinged it to 9.6 but the extra staple holes did not ding it.
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	Some of those look like printers creases which do not press out. If you do, there will be ink loss underneath. Most printer creases are not counted against overall grade of book but it depends on severity and location of said printers creases.
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