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Corrector CaptainCanuck private msg quote post Address this user
Here is an example of the same buyer placing winning bids on multiple issues of UF #4 CGC 9.8’s this past weekend.

Is this someone trying to manipulate the market, a hoarder or even a shill account?

Does anyone have any other examples of this kind of activity surrounding a modern age mega “key”?








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Collector flanders private msg quote post Address this user
It looks like you've taken a demotion from Captain to Detective Canuck. I hope you solve the mystery.
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Masculinity takes a holiday. EbayMafia private msg quote post Address this user
If you want to continue the investigation you should record the serial numbers. If things are fishy, we will see the same serial numbers show up again from the same sellers. Could just be a guy who thinks these books have more room to run and is grabbing them up. I assume the auction prices all ended lower than the available Buy It Now options?
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Collector Zombie_Head private msg quote post Address this user
Is it the same seller on these books?
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Corrector CaptainCanuck private msg quote post Address this user
@EbaySeller
@Zombie_Head

Not only did the aforementioned sales all go to the same bidder, they were all from the same seller (with different serial numbers on each book).
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Rock, Paper, Scissors, Lizard, Spock Tedsaid private msg quote post Address this user
Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainCanuck
@EbaySeller
@Zombie_Head

Not only did the aforementioned sales all go to the same bidder, they were all from the same seller (with different serial numbers on each book).

Did the seller sell any other copies of this book? Perhaps the shill bidder - if that's what he was - accidentally bought these ones, but others he got out of the way in time for someone else to win?
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Collector Zombie_Head private msg quote post Address this user
Yea something fishy going on with this book.
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Rock, Paper, Scissors, Lizard, Spock Tedsaid private msg quote post Address this user
Okay, I found them. Looks like the seller has a shit-ton of this book. Here are the ones he's sold at auction, two per day for a couple weeks now (not every day though):

July 5th:
2091531003
2091531002
2119287016

July 10th:
2093244003
2093243019

July 11th:
2093243016
2093243015

July 12th:
2093243002
2093243003

July 13th:
2093243018
2093243005

July 14th:
2093243001
2093243014

July 15th:
2093243017
2119287022

July 16th:
2093243004
2093243013

July 17th:
2093243024
2093243020

July 18th:
2093244001
2093243007

July 19th:
2093243012
2119288011

A LOT of those serial numbers are in alignment, indicated multiple batches of this comic were sent in together for grading.

Anyway, it looks like at least one person has bid on ALL of them, or almost all. He (492*) always lost though. It seems he went as high as $925.00, but never much higher, and just wasn't high enough to win.

Your guy bid $1000 four times and lost ... twice on July 15th, and twice on July 16th. Then he upped his bid to $1100: twice on July 17th (one win, one loss); and for one of two auctions on July 18th. The one he won on this day went for $985 and the one he skipped went for $945. He may have bid as high at $1100 again in the one auction, but no one bid against him that high.

He won again on July 19th at $1005.01, and $960.00. Again, he could have bid as high as $1100, as he did before, but these times he won.

It could still be a guy who wanted multiple copies, and just adjusted his bidding up to get them. Or it could be a shill bidder, adjusting and trying not to win, but failing a few times.

I suppose eBay should be able to tell, based on what happens after the auction: if he purchases and takes possession of all of these, or if he "cancels" the auctions because of fraud or something. But yes, it is probably worth it to see if these serial numbers come up again soon. Especially if it's someone in or near Niagara Falls, NY, (which is VERY close to the Canadian border.)

Or, you can just ask eBay to investigate. They will be able to see the registration of the hidden bidders, see if they are on the Canadian side of Niagara Falls or something.
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Rock, Paper, Scissors, Lizard, Spock Tedsaid private msg quote post Address this user
FYI, the guy who bid on almost all of the ones in the last post, is currently bidding on a UF4 9.8 from a different seller. So, looks more legit, considering that.
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Collector flanders private msg quote post Address this user
That seller seems to always have the best stuff. I wish I had his business savvy.
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Collector Nuffsaid111 private msg quote post Address this user
We have great detectives on this forum. Impressive!
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TRA LA LA esaravo private msg quote post Address this user
@flanders - I wish I had two dozen 9.8 graded copies of a red-hot book!
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