How come the Inkers get no love?12402
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| If I ever won the Weekly cover contest I would choose "Amazing inks" as a cover category. So many times I see a beautiful cover or amazing inner page and realize that the color choices were at least as important as the drawings, maybe even more important. I believe the colorists are called inkers in the industry? How come there is no love or recognition for their work? Is it just a stepping stone to other work? Maybe it's because they can do in a night the volume of work that takes the artist a week or more? Are there any that have risen to a level of critical acclaim and industry status? |
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| Coloring and inking are two different disciplines in comic book production. Inkers go over the pencil art and clarify and emphasize line work to bring the best out of the art work. The colorist is that, the person that applies color to the black and white artwork. This discipline has changed a lot over the years as they used to have to color photocopies of the inked art and define the color codes for the printer to apply. Most color work has now moved to the digital workspace in modern books. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by dielinfinite OK, then I'm using the wrong terminology. I'm referring to the coloring, the person who actually chooses the color combinations and decides to make the sky purple or the background yellow. Is it just considered too simple a task to get respect? |
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| They are certainly worth recognizing. There may be a few reasons why they don’t get their due, chief among them I think is that some of the work is not easy do describe to the uninitiated so we are used to just identifying the “Artist” as the penciller, particularly on cover art. Trust me, colorists aren’t the only ones that get forgotten as inkers very much have an effect, as you can see below, though I would say these are some exaggerated examples Here are some examples of inkers at work:       Here are some colorists doing their thing:    |
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| They're not inkers they're tracers... Who gets this reference? |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Murmonster Chasing Amy! |
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@Murmonster ....a nubian god. |
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| @EbaySeller I agree with you though. There are a lot of books out there where the work being put into both inking and coloring is incredible and can require immense talent. I remember seeing one of the more recent Batman books where they should a cover going through all the stages of production and the sketch is basically just a sketch. The inkers make give definition by defining all the edges and lines. The colorist bring it to life. They take it from flat 2 dimensions and give it depth. Although the artist gets all the glory it really is a team effort. | ||
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| @Comicbookzach @GAC Yes great movie!! | ||
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| @Murmonster very much so....hilarious!! | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Noblebeast315 I've just come to realize that all the covers I appreciate typically start with the colors catching my eye. From there I get drawn in enough to see the details of the artwork and appreciate it. I've noticed it a lot with 60's War comics in particular. |
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| @dielinfinite lol!!!! "what's a nubian?" | ||
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 I hear their hourly rate is outrageous!
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Here's an 11x17 signed print I own by the late great Joe Sinnott (RIP) a great artist and (to your point @EbaySeller) a fantastic inker. |
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| Klaus Jansen and Terry Austin are two inkers that really bought out the best of the pencillers they worked with, especially Frank Miller's Daredevil run and John Byrne's X-Men stuff. And a very underappreciated artist is George Roussos, who inked and colored some of the most eye catching covers ever, notably Kirby's Fantastic Four issues and those beautiful Thor covers of the 60's. | ||
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  Inking can actually really make or break some comics imo. Here is some Jack Kirby artwork that was diminished due to a quick inking job. Inkers actually have quite a big responsibility and can really change the entire look of a comic. |
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| @CarsonG I agree and think the inking here was very heavy handed. This is not the case for all series, but I am sure you can find plenty of examples where the inking did the opposite of what it is supposed to do, turned detail into A flat presentation. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by CarsonG Just for kicks imagine what that Thor would look like if Bernie had inked it. I envision his typical cross pattern for the absence of light areas as opposed to straight flat black. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by CarsonG That's Vince Colletta's inking...ugh! |
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| LANGUAGE WARNING |
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| LOL!!!!!! | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by dielinfinite The host is right...he ruined Jack's work. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by GAC His erasing, too. "Meh, that building is too complicated. I'll just make it a box with lines." "Meh, I don't feel like inking that man. I'll just remove him." He was known to be "fast". Royer inked AND lettered 3 pages per day without changing Kirby. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by dielinfinitecomic tropes is a great youtube channel btw. This video has a ton more examples |
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The late Jim Mooney was a great,underappreciated Inker as well..ghost rider.omega.supergirl..and more.  |
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Quote:Originally Posted by JohnnylrayFor Omega, Mooney was credited for both pencils and inks for eight of those issues in the run(I believe). He also inked the Lee Elias issue. Good call on being under appreciated. His pages looked good. |
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| @steveinthecity Thank you Brother! | ||
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Tim Vigil has some incredible ink skills. |
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3 pages from The Art of Comic Book Inking pg 1) Brent Anderson Original pencils and inks pg 2) Mike Royer inks over B. Anderson blue lines. pg 3) Steve Leialoha inks over B. Anderson blue lines.    |
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