Which should I buy for long term investment??12300
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jaysonslade private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Just a general question, regardless of title or money. Would you get 2x if a 9.6 or 1x of a 9.8?? Given the price of each are the same. | ||
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| It all depends on what comic it is. | ||
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| Every case is different depending on title and cost. You cant break it down to such simple terms. Some books are hotter than others. That being said however, I will say people pay out the nose for the .2 difference in grade. For example amazing Spider-man 194 a 9.6 is about 550$ but a 9.8 is over 1800$ according to gocollect. Clearly if price was no object in this case the 9.8 is a better long term investment. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by BronteEven in that example it is not so simple. If you bought 2 9.6s at $550 and sold them for $600 each you’d see the same amount of profit as if you’d bought the 9.8 at $1800 and sold it for $1900 Like you said, you really can’t break these things down into super simple terms. Especially as higher graded books start to hit a price ceiling which causes collectors to look for lower grade, more affordable copies, driving their prices up. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by dielinfinite My apologies. It was my impression that the books were the same cost if you bought 2 qty 9.6s vs 1 qty 9.8. For example. 550 for 9.6 2 qty = 1100$ Vs 1 qty 9.8 for 1100$ you would be better off with the 9.8. I guess I misunderstood the question. |
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| I was literally contemplating this last night. I was thinking about looking at the numbers for a couple of books. | ||
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| @Bronte Gotcha, you’re right. I think I was focused on future growth potential. But again, it depends entirely on the specific book | ||
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| You also have to take into account that your potential buyer pool might be smaller with the higher dollar books, and it might take longer to liquidate the book. Again, it all depends on various factors. | ||
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| I say widen the net with two different 9.6 versus one 9.8, no way to know if Turok will get a movie, or if Flash Gordon will be cast in Star Wars 0.5, the founding of the Jedi. My money is on Flash, but get both, just in case. |
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| It depends on the comics. Let me use The Sandman #8 as an example. The FMV for the "editorial variant" is $4,000 for a 9.8 vs. $1,850 for a 9.6. Where as the regular issue is $425 for a 9.8 vs. $150 for a 9.6. In terms of money, a 9.8 will always have the highest mark between the two. But for me it depends on the grading company, when it was graded, and what their standards were during that point of grading standards. Because in the end some CGC 9.8s can be regraded as CBCS 9.6s. Just like a PGX 9.6 might regrade as a CGC or CBCS 9.4. So for me... CBCS 9.8 = Yes. CGC 9.8 = Depends on how it looks slabbed. PGX 9.8 = No. But I also prefer buying raw with hopes of getting a 9.6 or higher. So if the two 9.6s I found look almost as good as a 9.8, I'll get those. Otherwise I will always aim for a CBCS 9.8.  |
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| 2 9.6s of the same book or a 9.8 of the same book? I’d say one 9.8. The 9.8 spikes higher than a 9.6, if you’re selling at the true peak. 9.6s go up, yes, but there are usually more of them available. The 9.8 being more scarce, is in more demand & quicker to sell. |
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| What about the high risk factor of buying/owning 9.8 comics! I'm amazed at how comfortable people are paying crazy high prices for what remind me of speculative growth stocks, which can make you a lot money yes, but carry extreme risk of loss. Each person has to decide the amount of risk they are comfortable taking, I've been burned by the stock market numerous times and it has changed the risk tolerance I have with them. I say as buyer with limited budget stay away from 9.8's with two exceptions, really elite key books that might overcome all resistance over time(ASM #300, Hulk #181, etc.) and newer or still affordable keys without such a big price difference between 9.6 and 9.8. So yes each comic book should looked at on a case by case basis, but in general two 9.6's for the price of one 9.8, I say buy the 9.6's if your buying and holding for the future. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by jaysonslademaybe too general. I think Bronte answered best. Quote: Originally Posted by Bronte Comics values will spike from time to time like Ultimate Fallout #4 getting some insane numbers recently. UF4 is a perfect example of playing the resale slab game. Investing in the 9.8S early on has brought in the big bucks. The 9.6s pulling decent numbers but not selling as well. That .2 is important for the “right” books with smart investment. With that said; comics will not “lose” value; it comes down to being Key or Hot and if you are buying or selling when the demand increases. Hope this helps If any of ot makes sense. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by jaysonslade @jaysonslade I have faced this question many times and I have to say the answer is different based on price and availability. For very common books selling below $200 in 9.8 I would only buy 9.8. $200-$300 is kind of a gray area for me. Once the 9.8's get above $300 I will always go for the 2 9.6's. This answer is based on experience and emotion...if the book pops in value I want to be free to sell one copy and take the profits without leaving myself empty-handed. Comic books can be a little bit like gold in that there never seems to be a good time to sell. If the price is low you don't want to sell and if the price is high there is always a good reason for it, compelling you to hold onto it. So when I go searching for investment type books I almost always look to get 2 9.6's. Selling a 9.6 for enough profit to pay for the long-term "keeper" copy is far more satisfying to me than selling your one 9.8 copy, regardless of profit amount (we tend to get emotionally attached to our purcahses that pop in value). Now in a few cases I have sold a 9.8 for a nice profit and immediately repurchased a lower grade, but in those situations I almost always drop down to 9.4 (Because after a book has popped I can't rationalize paying 9.6 prices immediately after selling my 9.8, lol). |
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Quote:Originally Posted by jaysonslade Neither, actually, and I don't mean that to sound like a trick answer to a serious question. It really depends on what you collect. For long term Modern book investment, I'd rely more on media prospects than grade above a certain point. For GA investment I'd pay more attention to census data and overall demand.  . |
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| Sorry. I didn’t mean this to come across as a shortcut for collector speculation. I’m with you. Completely agree. I actually collect and invest in heavy duty silver and bronze keys. But I’m sticking my toe in to try some modern slabs. In the Miles Morales book for example. I want the book. But for long term, is your advice to get 2 in a 9.6 or 1 in a 9.8? The same logic could be applied at Action 242. I could get 2x @ 2.5 or 1x @ 4.5(ish)? Thanks! I really appreciate the insign. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Bronte@Bronte |
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| That was precisely the correct question. I’m not a flipper. I don’t sell much. And I read my comics that aren’t slabbed. Baby times digitally on the high end stuff. But if I’m spending $500 and not looking for a quick buck, should I get 2 lower grades that equal $500? Or one nicer one at $500. Hypothetically... to sell in 30 years. Would “future me” likely appreciate one that’s super nice or two that’s really nice?? | ||
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| @00slim that’s more the answer I was looking for. Not trying to reduce the market down to a one-size-fits-all. THANK YOU | ||
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| @Batworldfan GREAT ANSWER!! | ||
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| @EbaySeller AWESOME RESPONSE! Thank you | ||
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| If I were investing in silver age books for long term keepers, as an investment, I wouldn't be buying graded books to start with. I would go raw , and do the legwork to find lose books that are being undergraded for sale...think five copies not two. Then take the time, clean them up, do whatever is needed to max out their value and appeal...and select the best one or two for grading. As its a long term hold and you were able to get multiples it will move far higher doing so. If I am dealing with anything modern, I go high on the grade as possible or I don't bother.....I do not see much price run up for modern books that have 20,000 graded copies above 9.4 , in fourteen variant covers, and then choosing to buy an 8.5 ….. Modern books like Edge of Spiderverse 2 are prime examples...go 9.8 or go home. Way too many copies, way too common and far too easy to get even a high end graded copy, to invest in an almost copy. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Darkseid_of_town Common sense is lacking in many. |
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 I had no way of knowing that 9.8 graded copies signed by Adam Hughes weren't what you were looking for.
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| While I would prefer one 9.8 it is sometimes easier to get better bargains on lower priced issues. | ||
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