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 I showed my wife and she was so happy for me she started to cry.
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Batman66 private msg quote post Address this user | |
So I have this strange tales 115 that came back restored color touch. There is one spine tick that someone covered it with a marker. I talked to hero restoration and they told me they have a process that can pull the marker ink up without having to cut it out like cgc does. It's 400-600 hundred to do it, then they would resubmit to cbcs.they told me it impacts the grade minimally, it could maintain the 9.6, maybe 9.4-9.2, it's always a gamble. If I send it to cgc, they could carve it out for 60 or so, a greater impact on the grade. What are your thoughts, would you gamble 600, 60 or leave it alone. If you look up the gpa, anything above 9.0 is really expensive    |
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| @Batman66 - Wow, great book and amazing condition. I would probably keep it as is for now and see if the expensive technology for removing the color touch becomes less expensive in another few years (do they use a laser to burn off the marker?). You would obviously not want them to use a method that would result in getting a restored label anyway. I would definitely not want CGC or anyone to scrape and cut the area away, basically destroying a beautiful high-grade book. | ||
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| Honestly, for such a minor touch, I would leave it alone. It is an amazing copy and Hero can always perform the work in the future should you so decide. Personally, not sure I would risk it for such a minor touch. However, should you decide to move forward, spending the extra funds with Hero rather than CGC to minimize any damage to the book would be money well spent given the grade. I hate seeing books with covers that have been gouged out to remove minor color touch. | ||
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| I would also leave it alone. If you're looking to sell it I would price above a 9.4 unrestored value and see what happens. It is a very rare book in that grade. | ||
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| Does hero guarantee their work? (I assume they are reputable, but I have never heard of them) |
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HulkSmash private msg quote post Address this user | |
I would leave it. It’s very minor.  |
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Phill59898 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| What a tough dilemma but I would leave it alone very expensive for a minor touch-up | ||
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poka private msg quote post Address this user | |
| If for selling - I would go ahead and have hero remove it. If for PC - I would leave it for now |
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kaptainmyke private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Depends on how much money you're into it. Likely will cost $125-$150 to remove it plus the cost of pressing and grading again... The grade will likely change between a 9.0-9.4. Scrape it off and resubmit for a clean label if the money makes sense to you. | ||
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 I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this.
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GAC private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I may be on the other side of the fence than most here....the impact of Restoration on value is greater than the $400-$600 charge. Assuming the resto removal maintains a 9.6 or 9.4 grade it would be worth it. That book is amazingly high grade!! | ||
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Batman66 private msg quote post Address this user | |
@kaptainmyke I bought these years ago, I might have 100 in both, this one I can't do anything about the trimming on this one |
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HulkSmash private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by GACI see where you’re coming from, but that is a huge assumption. Yes there is that chance It maintains 9.6/9.4. There is also the chance of this ~$10k book (maybe 8-9k for the color touch🤷🏻♂️) to turn into a $3k Book. That is a gamble to not be taken lightly for a dot of sharpie. |
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GAC private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by HulkSmash Hero Restoration claim the CT can be removed without damage to the book possibly maintaining the 9.6 grade but could drop to 9.4 or 9.2. I think the resto will have a greater impact on value than a $2k but ofcourse I don't know for sure. It would be really good to have GoCollect or GPA track restored books. |
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Batman66 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @GAC I looked it up in GoCollect, there wasn't enough sales, a 9.0 restored sold in '14 for 185, there was a 7.5 that sold for 230 in '19, 8.5's sold in '16'17' for around 350, but it would for sure take a massive hit for the color touch | ||
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EbayMafia private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Sure seems like a whole lot of money and effort to remove a tiny ink mark from a comic book. i wonder if one day we're all going to realize that we've gone a little bit insane over tiny insignificant details on comic books. I say keep it as is, but I've made my peace with small amounts of color touch or trimming. Not sure if the rest of the comic community will ever join me there. | ||
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GAC private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @Batman66 definitely not enough sales to make a determination of value. If you're planning to sell, I think removing it should be a consideration but like @HulkSmash said, one not to be taken lightly. If it's for your PC then not as necessary. | ||
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 I hear their hourly rate is outrageous!
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sportshort private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @Batman66, the important part of your statement that he spot "... impacts the grade minimally", if that is the case and you risk it going down in grade (which I actually think you stand a good chance of this happening with the cracking out and the handling of the book), I would leave it as is, with the high grade and the minimal touch up I think it's a fantastic looking book. | ||
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GAC private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @EbaySeller I agree with you that its alot of money, time and effort for a dot of CT but if the intention is to sell, the realities of restoration on value must be acknowledged. Our own opinions are irrelevant when one is trying to move books. | ||
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I hear their hourly rate is outrageous!
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sportshort private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @GAC, true enough. | ||
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Darkseid_of_town private msg quote post Address this user | |
| The comic speaks for itself...leave it as it is and let the new owner determine the best plan....sell it if that's your decision by carefully explaining the extremely small amount of touch present. Once you commit to a given path it removes options another person might have wished for. If your plan is to keep the book, then you shouldn't let ONLY monetary considerations determine your choices...in other words do what you think you most would like with your comic book. It is yours and you need to be happy with whatever decision you make. Sometimes it doesn't have to be as shallow as just the "money" I think if it were mine I would be determined one week to go one way, another week another, and constantly trying to decide . |
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I showed my wife and she was so happy for me she started to cry.
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Batman66 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Thanks for the input guys, I'm not looking at selling anytime soon but there will come a day when I or my wife will be selling off my collection. Maybe 10-15 years or so. Just want to be prepared and try to get the best return possible. | ||
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GAC private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @Batman66 it's all about liquidity. Good luck!! | ||
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Darkseid_of_town private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I handle my collection differently I guess...having no family or anyone that would directly benefit from my collection means I lack incentive to prioritize its someday disposal. Liquidity for what I plan on keeping is utterly non existent. The sub group within my collection for someday sale or realization of profit is all clearly planned out and highly liquid. Guess it comes down to what you plan to do with the book and when....honestly with as nice as it is, and given the value, you are quite fortunate to have the entire problem to have to wrestle with...there is no losing strategy ...any way you go is a win |
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| I don’t think i would risk it. I mean it looks fantastic especially with that 9.6 in the corner. | ||
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| @Scifinator It is a great looking book, no doubt!! | ||
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doog private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Probably the highest graded color touched copy in existence. I would leave it, considering how long you figure you will keep it. Manana. | ||
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| I’d personally have CGC remove it. I’m in the minority, but the restoration would bother me too much. | ||
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kaptainmyke private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I highly doubt Hero Restoration can maintain the 9.6 in all honesty. I'd love to learn this "ink pull" trick that charges $400-$600. | ||
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CFP_Comics private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Not all professional restoration removal involves scraping out the color touch, even if it bleeds through the cover. I would also make sure that it is only one spot, as there are usually more. An ink "pull" would require a solution based on the type of ink used. |
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