Good grief...I will not use CGC any time soon!11766
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Paint_Monk private msg quote post Address this user | |
| As many of you know, since I'm holed up and cloistered here in a Chicagoland monastery, a friend of mine handles my submissions, etc. and I pick them up from him when I leave on occasion. I thought I might give CGC a shot to see what the differences are between my favorite grading company (HERE) and the competition. The other day, my pal went onto the CGC forums and inquired on my behalf if CGC would accept CBCS yellow labels for re-slabbing and honor them. Two responses later (one a sarcastic meme of Gordon Ramsay saying "Definitely Not" ) he got a PM, which I will NOT copy and paste here out of respect for CBCS. The gist of the PM was effectively a rant about how everyone but CGC was terrible and a slew of undocumented accusations against two competing grading companies. I'd like to thank everyone here for being professional, friendly, and welcoming, even when I've complained about wait times, etc. It's refreshing that no one from CBCS welcomed me by touting their own perceived superiority and pointing the finger at others. You guys are great. Forget the competition, I'll keep everything right here where I am. Thanks! Wally |
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 I have a problem with fattening women up.
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Bronte private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Slightly confused. Essentially it is the CGC forums you have issue with, not the actual company? I had a membership created for NGC and somehow that created a membership to CGC with a 10% discount so I sent a few submissions that CBCS would not touch. (Magazine TMNT book and a Turtlemania Special. ) So far the experience is a little smoother than CBCS, however, in some aspects I still prefer CBCS. I've never interacted with CGC forums, but would think of that as a separate entity from the actual company. |
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 I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this.
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GAC private msg quote post Address this user | |
| that forum is toxic. | ||
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Paint_Monk private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @Bronte it's the forums, but you know the old adage, "birds of a feather!" I think the forums more or less give you some idea of who and what you are dealing with and based on that, I'll just stick right here. At CBCS the service is good, the people are (mostly) friendly, and I can live with a wait I suppose every now and then. I just avoid calling India to keep my frustration levels down  |
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I have a problem with fattening women up.
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Bronte private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Gotcha. I'll make it a point to not get to know their forums..... |
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 Thank you sir. May I have another?
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Siggy private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Paint_Monk Much of the world probably thinks the same about "us" when they listen to our CIC and other "leaders." Their forum doesn't speak for them, though the forum doesn't know that. |
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 It's like the Roach Motel for comic collectors.
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chester15 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| The CGC forums are useful as a resource, looking up threads and comments. You can participate, but you have to tread lightly. It is definitely trolled by some surly characters who will belittle you for the slightest perceived offense. Your friend likely got slammed due to asking a question that has been addressed countless times over the years. They hate it when you just open up a thread to naively ask a question, without checking (searching, doing some work, putting in some effort) to see if it has already been answered like a hundred times. |
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Darkseid_of_town private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Search a little and you will find the forums share a few of the same trolls, in the same clothes. I do tend to find the boards here more user friendly with a few exceptions...but we have our trolls here as well. | ||
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It's like the Roach Motel for comic collectors.
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chester15 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Probably true that we "can't judge a company by its trolls". | ||
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 Beaten by boat oars
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Studley_Dudley private msg quote post Address this user | |
| The CGC forums, like anywhere, have its share of vocal fans (let's just call it that). I've learned some good stuff over there, but I would also advise any newcomer over there to be mindful, lest the dogpile commence. Some of the members will tell you to do a search, even though the CGC forum search function is as useful as herpes. Harshen is still a clown in my book, but there are some solid contributors over there. I've heard it used to be a lot better over there until the forum was changed around then some of the more established board members bounced to another forum or got tired of hearing the same stupid shit argued about all day long. | ||
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Paint_Monk private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @chester15 - I get it, but he made it a point to post that in the "NOOB" section on the new user thread! | ||
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 How do I know this? Because I've done it myself.
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| @Paint_Monk I can't comment on the nature of the CGC boards, but in terms of the company, in my opinion, I prefer CBCS to them. My local store doesn't deal with CBCS for in store signings, so I have to use CGC through them. In terms of grading and turnaround times, I still prefer CBCS. CGC is fine, but I have had them make errors on the labels and I had a recent batch come back with some significant marring, which is extremely frustrating. Haven't had that happen with CBCS. More so, if you're not getting books pressed, CBCS is way faster. As for pressing, both companies are around the same regarding turnaround times. I've had no qualms with either about their pressing services. I think both do an excellent job. In terms of customer service, at least over the phone, CGC is better. I can get an update and status on my books as long as I have the invoice number, and I have never spoken to someone from India when calling CGC. That all being said, I think CBCS had made a ton of progress and continues to do so. They offer discounts and promotions, which I've never seen CGC do. Finally, I simply can't afford to send in a bunch of books sometimes that I get from a signing. The VSP program has been amazing for that, and it's the reason I first started using them. In the long run, I think CBCS is and will continue to be the better company. |
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Paint_Monk private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @lawguy1977 - Totally agree. The forums here - especially the mods and admins who have really worked hard to make up for occasional customer service hiccups - speak highly for CBCS and its future. That doesn't mean I won't get frustrated from time to time, but overall I'm really pleased with CBCS too. See what happens to me when I consider trying out the competition? I should have known better. |
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 I’m not an ant. I’m a rootin tootin Hornet!
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| Cbcs is the best grading company hands down. | ||
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cyrano0521 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I would only use CGC for things CBCS cannot do for whatever reason. Size restrictions, signer restrictions, cbcs does not have a witness and for whatever reason i really want a Yellow label...very specific situations which i would have VERY little control over. | ||
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Towmater private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Faults can be brought up about both CBCS and CGC and more than likely have been on both forums. People do business with those that they have favorable experiences and that how relationships are built. Kind of like saying you are a Ford or Chevy truck person. The homers for this one or that one would never buy the other company's truck nor test drive one. People like what they like and are vocal about it or so it would seem. |
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It's like the Roach Motel for comic collectors.
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chester15 private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Paint_Monk I hear ya, Paint_Monk. Unfortunately, the Noob section offers as much protection from predators as a shield made of toilet tissue. It's almost like a rite of passage. You come in with your tail wagging and get piled on by the "old guard". So you retreat and find out what you "should" have done, according to the "experts". After that, you're just a bit careful about your approach, and it gets easier. It's not a process I condone, but I'm not in the loop on such things. As @Studley_Dudley mentions, the search function is difficult to use there. It works, but you have to keep trying and refining. It's easier to go over to Google for the search itself, and it will quote stuff on CGC or CBCS. For this particular question, on Google you can type in "will cgc accept yellow labels from CBCS" and the top 2 results answer the question immediately. One is a CBCS forum link, the other a CGC article. And then a half dozen more results leading to the answer. |
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Thank you sir. May I have another?
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Siggy private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Studley_Dudley I rarely have a problem with it when I use it. Hell, I've been able to find 8 year old posts with it. Quote: Originally Posted by Paint_Monk Sometimes that can be like ringing the dinner bell lol |
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| Coke vs Pepsi. Same business models. Different taste..I'm a Cbcs fan as well! | ||
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Paint_Monk private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by chester15 Now that's funny |
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Beaten by boat oars
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Studley_Dudley private msg quote post Address this user | |
| There is no Pepsi in my world. Coca Cola for life! | ||
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 I've spent years perfecting my brand of assholery.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Studley_Dudley They are interchangeable as far as I am concerned.  |
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 Joined The Club
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Steverogers11 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I use both. One to keep and one to sell | ||
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I've spent years perfecting my brand of assholery.
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DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I regards to the cgc and their forum, you grow what you cultivate. I enjoyed my time there and made some life long friends. In the end, it just got too "heavy." | ||
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 Masculinity takes a holiday.
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EbayMafia private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I spent a little time browsing the CGC forum back when CBCS forum was under maintenance for about 3 days. I have to say if I ever posted over there I would be choosing my words carefully and holding my breath waiting for the replies. And I'm not a shy person or easily intimidated. | ||
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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this.
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| I have no time or patience for unwarranted hostility one gets over there. | ||
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 Not trying to be an ass since February 12, 2020.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Steverogers11Same; I get rid of the Coca-Cola.. wait what? Quote: Originally Posted by GACI’ve avoided CGC forum. Went through a few threads looking for info. The questions were legit and the responses were sarcastic, rude, or nonsensical with maybe 1-2 relevant answers at that point the OP probably bounced. |
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It's like the Roach Motel for comic collectors.
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chester15 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| A big problem there is that the thread frequently gets hijacked within a handful of posts toward some subject that the masses feel like thrashing around that day. The closest thing to it that I have seen on here was a question about what eBay coupons were out there by @BigRedOne1944. That took a few left turns, got onto the subject of offers (which I unthinkingly contributed to - apologies), but NOTHING compared to what's on the "Dark Side". | ||
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Joined The Club
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Steverogers11 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @HulkSmash lol sorry man. Meant with CGC and CBCS | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Darkseid_of_town Sorry! I’ll try to be better! But, seriously, one of the many reasons I chose CBCS and this forum was because I perused the boards at CGC. It seemed too much like a lot of “Comic book guy” from the simpsons. Plus, I truly think companies should be more active in “policing” their forums. The battle royale model just isn’t one I find to be conducive to anything other than creating some internet tyrants. Looking at the posts here, it seemed more positive. |
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