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| Hey guys! been awhile since I posted. I have about 300 books most of them are in mylite2's with my key issues in mylite 4's. all of my regular stuff is in current poly bags in BCW plastic comic bins. I have a bunch of silica packs in my boxes to keep them dry and it seems to be working fairly well. Yesterday however was a rainy day and I had left the windows open from the night before. My humidity monitor read pretty high ( 69%) . I wanted to know since all of these books are current ( 2003-present) how much moisture would affect them. thanks guys!! |
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| @Comicninja0215 you should post more often in these friendly neighborhood comic forums. Getting to your question. I too, use packs to help keep my comics environment in check. But I also have them stored in my closet that has its own central cooling/heating vent. You can always invest in an electric heater to use in your room (containing the comics) to remove the excessive moisture in the air. |
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| That could help, inkeepnthem in my bedroom since it's the easiest pla e to access them. They humidity wasnt constant soni dont thinkbthey were damaged on a short period of time. I plan on using moisture traps once the quarantine is lifted lol | ||
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| I dont think 1 day of exposure will have that much of an effect. However, one more thing you can do for the future is damp rid. My dads power window actuator died in his vehicle and it rained. Flooded the cars interior. I put a large box of damp rid in the car for a week or so and the car's interior dried and no musty smell or anything. |
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| I've used damprid in the past and I love it! Just have to ge and get some! | ||
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| @Comicninja0215 it sounds like you are properly storing your comics. As Bronte said 1 day shouldn’t affect them. As long you’re keeping them in check you should be good. My only concern really would be the poly bagged books, but those BCW bins are legit. | ||
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| I have quite a few silica packs in there as well. I'm not sure new comics and the paper quality are easily damaged. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by HulkSmash Thanks!! They sure are! Haven't had any issues with them yet! I know poly bags are a pain but they're cheap and I needed them in a pinch. I plan on changing them sooner rather than later. |
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| @Comicninja0215 once E Gerber is filling orders again; I am going to place a bulk order for 1000 Mylites2 and 1000 Halfbacks. It comes out to about $0.25 each(bag+board) plus shipping. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by HulkSmash Thats an awesome idea!!! I'll have to wait on that though lol |
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| I wouldn’t worry about it. A day or a week of humidity won’t cause any problems. | ||
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| You guys are seriously the best!!! Chc can gonpound sand!!! I got 0 help from any of those guys! | ||
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| silica packs are the worst thing you can do to your comics. Trust me. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by kaptainmyke How so?? Not saying you're wrong, just curious. Ty |
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| That's what I have now!!! Ty!! | ||
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| The silica packs will draw out all the moisture, even the good healthy moisture inside your comics, and suck it all inside the silica pack. Within a month or 2, you now have a wet water bag inside your box of comics, creating its own humidity tank environment which will cause rippled and wavy books. Even graded ones. I speak from experience and trials. I have even gone further than that and noticed the behavior warp card backers for action figures as well in my testing. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by kaptainmyke Well shit!!! Thanks for the heads up!! |
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| A climate controlled storage or climate controlled house is your best environment for comics. Attic or garage is not recommended either. As a test, I once left a short box of comics outside as a control here in Seattle, and another short box of comics inside a sealed rubbermaid storage tub with no silica or moisture inside. The box outside the tub was wavy pages. The box inside the rubbermaid storage tub was completely fine, shockingly. The key issue here to look at is "an extreme sudden change in environment". So, if you suddenly went from 40% humidity to 80% humidity, it will "shock" the comics. Same goes for 40% to 25% suddenly. Any change that is too soon or fast can warp pages. | ||
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| @Comicninja0215 I have never had a wet pack of silica that Myke described and I have been using them for years. Even when my wife forgot to put up her window in her mini cooper. I used larger bags of silica and they never got soaked/wet. They were also placed right onto the "trouble areas" with the most water accumulation. They did get rid of the dampness that was left behind from the towels I used to get up as much water as possible. Maybe @kaptainmyke lives in a location that has humidity like a tropical rain forest since he's had that kind of experience with his. Just use one or two small packs around your comics. If you live in a very dry humid environment, then they probably don't need to be used at all. |
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| Yes I do believe it depends on your regional environment. Using a tiny small gel pack from say a computer hard drive makes no impact at all. | ||
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| @kaptainmyke Makes some very good points about sudden or drastic RH% changes. The more stable the environment, the better.The recommended Generalized Comfort Zone range on a Psychrometric chart is between 40 to 60%RH. @Comicninja0215 If you are keeping them in Mylar then you are one up on a lot of collectors. FYI, I teach Pychrometrics and Airflow in my HVAC courses. | ||
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| That's why my window was open to begin with, airflow. unfortunately I didn't know it was supposed to rain yesterday. :-( yeah most of my good books are mylite 2's, im regular run books are in current bags. I might have to switch them all over just so I don't have to deal with them. |
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| I used to live at the beach in Cali where I dealt with higher moisture. I invested in a portable Maytag dehumidifier (M7DH45B2A) with RH% and temperature displays. I've had this unit for 15 years and works like a champ. Now that I'm in Texas and I store my books in a climate controlled room, I do not have much need for it; but I test it from time to time when we see more rain. RH 40% RT 75 |
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| 40% relative humidity is best. Shockingly right now in Seattle the relative humidity at my house is at 25%. Seriously. | ||
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 I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this.
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| I'd like info on silica packs. which brands are best for comics (slabbed and raw)? how often do they need to be replaced? |
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| This method of climate control is not recommended as most people do not regularly return to replace their silica packs, as they expire or become ineffective depending on the environment and its natural humidity. You may have to replace the silica once a month, or once every 3 months. It can vary by your regional location and storage location. Once the silica is "expired" it can leave undesirable results and impact your books or toys. There are products available that can reuse silica crystals by heating up the silica again in an oven at a temperature of 160F to dry out the silica and the process starts over again. But again, I do not recommend it as we are human in nature and can often become forgetful or lazy to remember to reuse and recycle the silica packs when required. A typical short box of comics would require less than a 1/2 cup of silica crystals. Package instructions: "Bake in oven at 150-200F for 30 min - 1.5 hours. Please don't use microwave". https://amzn.to/2K11bwy |
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| 69% isn’t that high for a few days even. A dehumidifier is always an option for the room you store them in. I store some books in my basement which sounds horrible but it’s actually pretty safe. Not much light, not under a roof, off the floor, with a dehumidifier that’s keeps it 45% down there. We’ve had a similar convo about gun safes. Those silicas mentioned above were sighted as bad in those chats. Theoretically it sounds great to keep books in a safe but it’s pretty bad. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by GACI have three. Two of them you have to bake at 225 for 3 hours or so every 3 to 6 months depending on the time of the year. The third one just plugs into an outlet and drys itself but it takes around 24 hours and seems to be somewhat of a fire hazard. |
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| @HeinzDad just out of curiosity, what qualifies as "somewhat of a fire hazard"? Does it just get hot by the outlet (similar to a space heater)? | ||
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