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Collector* Towmater private msg quote post Address this user
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I’ve been getting offers as well. Of course, also getting a lot of lowball offers on things I’m selling. I got one yesterday for a NYX 3 in 9.8. Listed on eBay for $800, someone messaged me with an offer for $150, saying he could “put that cash in my hand right away.” I added him to my blocked list.


I send low ball offers on things all the time. About 10% of the time the offers get accepted if it has been on eBay for over 60 days. About 30% of the time I get a counter offer.

I picked up a Stephen Platt page of OA for a song that way, and a George Perez cover for a very reasonable price that way. BTW, my relationship with a huge seller of OA started by sending in a low ball offer. I buy from them on eBay 5 to 10 times a year now because they were and are so open to offers.
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Collector CatCovers private msg quote post Address this user
@Towmater I’ve gotten my share of lowball offers. Most of the time I just ignore them, as it causes me no particular hardship to hold on to an item rather than sell it for less than a fifth of its value.

But the lowball offers have increased significantly in the last couple of weeks, which I suspect is due to the offer-maker’s hope to take advantage of people in financial distress in the current climate, selling their valuables to put food on the table. And that’s just gross.
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Collector Paint_Monk private msg quote post Address this user
My favorite is when someone lists an item for $50 and you send a best offer of $45 and it's auto-declined.

I get it, for example, if someone offered $40 or less - but it seems if you're not even willing to consider an offer so close to the asking price you might as well not even use the "Best Offer" feature.

As a buyer, those are the sellers I avoid.
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It's like the Roach Motel for comic collectors. chester15 private msg quote post Address this user
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My favorite is when someone lists an item for $50 and you send a best offer of $45 and it's auto-declined.

I get it, for example, if someone offered $40 or less - but it seems if you're not even willing to consider an offer so close to the asking price you might as well not even use the "Best Offer" feature.

As a buyer, those are the sellers I avoid.


Agree EXACTLY. That has happened a few times to me. With an offer so close to the selling price, you'd think they couldn't hit the ACCEPT button fast enough. If even an offer that close would be declined, exactly what amount of Best Offer are you looking for??? The Buy-It-Now price? MORE than the Buy-It-Now price? (eBay won't let you, by the way) Why do you even HAVE Best Offer on your listing if you won't entertain a 90-95% offer?? Those sellers need a complimentary brain scan.
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I've spent years perfecting my brand of assholery. DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user
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My favorite is when someone lists an item for $50 and you send a best offer of $45 and it's auto-declined.

I get it, for example, if someone offered $40 or less - but it seems if you're not even willing to consider an offer so close to the asking price you might as well not even use the "Best Offer" feature.

As a buyer, those are the sellers I avoid.


Agree EXACTLY. That has happened a few times to me. With an offer so close to the selling price, you'd think they couldn't hit the ACCEPT button fast enough. If even an offer that close would be declined, exactly what amount of Best Offer are you looking for??? The Buy-It-Now price? MORE than the Buy-It-Now price? (eBay won't let you, by the way) Why do you even HAVE Best Offer on your listing if you won't entertain a 90-95% offer?? Those sellers need a complimentary brain scan.

I agree as well, but I do think that in cases like this the seller didn't realize that eBay had activated the best offer option by default on their listing when they relisted it.
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It's like the Roach Motel for comic collectors. chester15 private msg quote post Address this user
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My favorite is when someone lists an item for $50 and you send a best offer of $45 and it's auto-declined.

I get it, for example, if someone offered $40 or less - but it seems if you're not even willing to consider an offer so close to the asking price you might as well not even use the "Best Offer" feature.

As a buyer, those are the sellers I avoid.


Agree EXACTLY. That has happened a few times to me. With an offer so close to the selling price, you'd think they couldn't hit the ACCEPT button fast enough. If even an offer that close would be declined, exactly what amount of Best Offer are you looking for??? The Buy-It-Now price? MORE than the Buy-It-Now price? (eBay won't let you, by the way) Why do you even HAVE Best Offer on your listing if you won't entertain a 90-95% offer?? Those sellers need a complimentary brain scan.

I agree as well, but I do think that in cases like this the seller didn't realize that eBay had activated the best offer option by default on their listing when they relisted it.


I would agree at first blush, but to set the auto-decline is a separate process - you have to check a separate box and fill in the amount. EBay can't set it. I guess they could, but why even let us set our own Buy-It-Now prices in that case? Just spin the eBay wheel, and that's your price.

They have been known to arbitrarily add Best Offer, while in the relist phase or even while live. They have it on their listing form by default so you have to proactively un-check it, but to set any further filters like auto-accept or auto-decline is a reach.

And another fault of the system (not the seller), is that eBay doesn't tell you that an offer was auto-declined. You have to go investigate that on your own initiative. Like maybe you had something for sale at $550, $500 auto-decline. So someone offers $480, gets declined, and you have no idea it even happened. Later, you realize that your price was too high in general, and start lowering it. As you get to $500, it might have been nice to know that someone was close with $480, so you could contact them. But it's a secret.
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Ima gonna steal this and look for some occasion to use it! IronMan private msg quote post Address this user
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@Towmater I’ve gotten my share of lowball offers. Most of the time I just ignore them, as it causes me no particular hardship to hold on to an item rather than sell it for less than a fifth of its value.

But the lowball offers have increased significantly in the last couple of weeks, which I suspect is due to the offer-maker’s hope to take advantage of people in financial distress in the current climate, selling their valuables to put food on the table. And that’s just gross.


If low ball offers bother you (and they do bug me) just set up the listing to automatically reject any offers that are at or below your own threshold of what would be "low ball". If low ball offers work for some - and lead to beautiful business friendships down the road for Towmaster and others that's great. But if you offer 1/2 on my stuff, I'll never see it. And I never go look to see what offers have been automatically rejected either. I experiment some with my listings. Right now I'm finding straight BIN without best offers overall better.

As for people making low ball offers and hoping to be lucky during hard times. I've two comments. First I'd have to think about if that is "gross". It might just be how a free market works. But second and more importantly - I'm not sure how much success people might have with this.

My experience and I'm reading a lot of other people are having the same experience is that for stuff priced under..hmmm... maybe $1000, certainly $500 or less there isn't any need to sell cheap. Sales are actually quite brisk. People are stuck at home - but not everyone stuck at home is broke. They can't go to their LCS. Some big mail order places are closed. And people like buying stuff that makes them feel better.

Big Ticket items - over $1,000, certainly over $5,000 are more likely to be taking a hit price wise. People stuck at home more want to feel better - but they don't want to feel better by spending $10K. They want to spend less than that. Individual items and sales can vary of course, I'm talking generalities here. Books that are both scarce and expensive are less likely to be discounted than books that are actually fairly easy to find but expensive because of demand.
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Collector* Towmater private msg quote post Address this user
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@Towmater I’ve gotten my share of lowball offers. Most of the time I just ignore them, as it causes me no particular hardship to hold on to an item rather than sell it for less than a fifth of its value.

But the lowball offers have increased significantly in the last couple of weeks, which I suspect is due to the offer-maker’s hope to take advantage of people in financial distress in the current climate, selling their valuables to put food on the table. And that’s just gross.


I feel that way about flipper/speculator that jack the price up on some book due to a movie rumor or those that who jack the price up on whatever modern is the next "gotta have it" as being "gross". The hobby and eBay are full of them.
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To answer your question, no, this is not where the comics go to die. MutantMania private msg quote post Address this user
Hey everyone...how bout those eBay discount coupons 😷
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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this. GAC private msg quote post Address this user
I block every person whose offers are low ball, every one of them.
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Masculinity takes a holiday. EbayMafia private msg quote post Address this user
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My favorite is when someone lists an item for $50 and you send a best offer of $45 and it's auto-declined.


@Paint_Monk I'm not sure if this applies in your case but I've noticed auctions that have a "best offer" option as well. I think there may be a misunderstanding of these "best offers" from the buyers perspective and the sellers perspective. In some cases I think the buyer may be expecting sellers to accept offers below the auction start price while the seller may be expecting potential buyers to make offers above the auction start price.
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To answer your question, no, this is not where the comics go to die. MutantMania private msg quote post Address this user

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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this. GAC private msg quote post Address this user
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I'm a #2. BigRedOne1944 private msg quote post Address this user
@chester15 Thanks for that info I will have to check my settings.
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It's like the Roach Motel for comic collectors. chester15 private msg quote post Address this user
@BigRedOne1944 You're welcome. I hope you get a ton of offers, something worthwhile, that is.
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I live in RI and Rhode Islanders eat chili with beans. esaravo private msg quote post Address this user
@BigRedOne1944 - Less than an hour ago, I put a mid-grade SA book with a Steranko cover on my Watch list. Guess what, John? I just got a discount offer of 13% off from the seller. It’s like clockwork!
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