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Quote:Originally Posted by Jesse_O "GoFundMe for those afflicted by the coronavirus and our country's gaping hole of a social safety net" |
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Quote:Originally Posted by CaptainCanuckNot really worth sitting and wasting my time having a little game of tug of war with you.....no if an article is posted that does not mean it is peer reviewed, but an article posted within an accredited journal is SUBJECT to peer review and response. As for which I think are peer reviewed or not, my opinion means nothing and it either is or isn't peer reviewed. That means I dont need to justify my opinion to you …. Since I already stated the first article I posted was NOT peer reviewed and was simply informative, unsure what your point is beyond being rude. the 2nd link goes directly to the New England Journal of Medicine...a widely accepted and credited medical source. - And?... whats your point? Pretty much the entire page is filled with commentaries and perspectives which are NOT peer reviewed. Pretty much the entire page is also filled with links that lead to, peer reviewed topics and other issues as well. Whats YOUR point? did you expect the ads to be peer reviewed as well? as for the reddit article...regardless what sticky this or that you read, the links do go to specific papers that are in fact published and peer review papers...just because the article is labeled speculative does not make it wrong, nor does it make the papers linked within tainted...that is why the link is given and you have to read the paper and responses, which you did not seem to Urgency? published in china? so what? Neither factor disqualifies the accuracy of the paper underlying the report. You either bothered to link to the quoted paper and read it as well as the reponses or did not...but that doesn't mean the paper is invalid due to of all the idiocy...urgency or being from China...the science community is international in scope and papers are published all over the world...unless you are trying to imply something racist in regards to china. The article states "Furthermore, the authors note a “downward trend in the overall epidemic curve.” We now know that this is quite the contrary and the issue has been upgraded to a Pandemic by the World Health Oranization. How ingenius of you to first point out it was published a month ago while the epidemic was local in china then attempt to discredit it based on the fact it has become an international pandemic, which the papers authoers could not have known at the time . Lancet, much like my 2nd item, also full of links to papers, and peer reviewed studies as well....nice try though. err yeah so that's outright ignorant there...I can post vox if I choose because they DO base the article on peer reviewed work, and there are DIRECT links within that article to the studies. Sorry, the world doesn't revolve to your set of rules....sorry the world isn't set to your own rules, but some sites publish summaries and only link to the papers. If you are too lazy and expect someone to do all the research for you watch the news, rather than tearing apart people who make the effort to provide scicence based facts. You seem to be arguing in circles...so papers recently published that lack a peer reponse are for your thought not valid, simply because noone has responded to them in the middle of a world crisis yet? And had you looked through them, many of the papers do contain response or summary information for them as well....on the one hand you complain about urgency and a month having passed but then minutes later complain they are too new to have recived responses yet...ugh. All I am going to say....go apply your rules to someone else, or tell someone else how they can post. I gave my sources, direct links, and multiple papers to support my posting. Not here to play semantics with you, thanks |
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@Darkseid_of_town Quote: "As for which I think are peer reviewed or not, my opinion means nothing and it either is or isn't peer reviewed." - Your opinion does mean something. You have opined that most of these articles are peer reviewed, when they are not. |
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Like I said, my opinion means nothing. It is up to the reader to determine the facts. I disagree with your statement, there is indeed a quite ample amount of solid peer reviewable or peer reviewed information in my posting. Being too lazy to pursue those links or access said papers and maerials isn't within my ability to address for others. Have a great day... |
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CaptainCanuck private msg quote post Address this user | |
@Darkseid_of_town Speaking of laziness, you are asking the reader to go and verify your sources for you to make sure you aren't lying about them being "peer reviewed". Why don't you post links to those supposed "peer-reviewed" articles right here? |
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I actually did, but I posted them within the context they were provided so readers can discern for themselves. I asked noone to VERIFY anything ...and as for accusing me of lying, wouldnt that be considered an outright personnal attack ? I do hope you aren't implying I was untruthful Anyways for those who value research I did provide some great links and useful materials, all of course subject to the mr Canucks apparently required endorsement as properly done how he feels they should be |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Jesse_OThis is a superb idea actually,....and might give some other things to focus on than being petty, childish and rude. |
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some could take it via private message instead of another thread getting locked from correction and fact proving. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by CaptainCanuck Oh, Good lord. Give it a rest, @CaptainCanuck, you've gone off the deep end here. Follow up on the links and read the papers and journals, or don't, it's entirely up to you. But complaining that every link isn't "peer reviewed?" That wasn't even the claim. If you are going to be pedantic, at least be accurate about it. These are reputable journals, and the discussion is not only worthwhile, it is imperative. The papers - especially early ones in a fast-moving domain - are snapshots. Individual research findings. Sometimes even just a few medical anecdotes. You have to integrate all the snapshots and findings and data yourself, to get a good sense of where and what the cutting edge science is. Or, you can read the detailed, informed, and knowledgeable synthesis by experts. Or read the back-and-forth discussion by MANY experts. And by the way, "peer review" is important, but it's not a magic wand. Peer review is only the first of many steps for introducing new science to the world. And it usually just means the 2-4 reviewers didn't find any errors in the data or analysis or methodology. Maybe the conclusions are accurate and maybe they aren't. Who knows? You have to remember, if the peer reviewers already knew the conclusions, then there would be no need for the paper to be published in the first place. |
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@Tedsaid We have moved this off of the thread. Private message me or anyone else you wish about this. |
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Maybe we need a new thread for this, but go visit your LCS or order from your favorite comic seller. They are going to need it. I'm going to really hate seeing comic stores closing because of this. I've lost a few thousand in paper money, but I wasn't going to retire for a while, anyway. Let's help out those little guys! |
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preach it Jabber , right there with you | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by OGJackster Update from this morning... Total Confirmed 181,200 Total Deaths 7,115 Total Recovered 78,085 ![]() |
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Averaging 3.9 percent deaths across the board so far... | ||
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CaptainCanuck private msg quote post Address this user | |
@Darkseid_of_town Quote: Originally Posted by Darkseid_of_town This, compared to only 0.1% from influenza. Very concerning. |
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![]() ![]() Not much is known about Covid-19 virus. The exact time frame the virus can stay active or contagious on food and surfaces is still not known. The possibility of reinfection or relapse is unknown. The widespread of infection is very fast and without symptoms. Protect yourself and your family against coronavirus while you are in self-quarantine or social isolation at home. With social isolation or self quarantine comes the need for delivery services such as: food delivery, groceries, prescriptions, Amazon packages, USPS packages, Ebay packages, and more. Many still require the use of Amazon and Ebay to sell products or collectibles at home to earn some form of income while the world around us shuts its doors for a moment. We still don't know if the virus is temperature resistant or if it will go away in the summer time. If you are a comic book collector and are stuck at home bidding up on ebay, I would follow a few of these guidelines as a precaution for your safety and your loved ones. If you have someone in your household with an immune system disorder, diabetes, or a lung condition, please do not put them at risk. Here are some guidelines to protect yourself and your loved ones from deliveries and packages in the mail: · Wash hands for 20 seconds or longer, including finger webbing and wrists - before and after handling packages from the mail or a delivery service. · Wear latex gloves or nitrile gloves if you have the ability to do so. If you are a comic book presser, you probably have a few boxes of 100 count latex gloves. · If you must sign for a package, wear disposable gloves. Wash hands afterwards immediately without touching your face. · Leave packages in your garage for a few days before opening. Typical transit is 2-3 days plus days in the garage untouched is a week untouched. · Leave a sign on your front door: "PLEASE LEAVE DELIVERIES AT DOOR" or leave a table outside for food or packages. · This virus is airborne and it's not clear if conventional air conditioning systems are sufficient in close quarters or automobiles. · The issue at hand is to avoid human contact since it is airborne and contagious without symptoms. · If you leave the house, bring gloves and disinfecting wipes in your pockets. Change clothes and take a shower when you come home. · Wear gloves and be mindful of "public objects" that could be a potential carrier of the coronavirus COVID-19 virus: Gas Pumps, ATM Machines, Credit Card Processors, Door Knobs, Toilets · Get news updates from CDC website or WHO website. |
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. Ummm... How many people in this picture? ![]() |
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@CaptainCanuck that is both funny and sad! | ||
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Was wondering (may have missed it if posted already), what about books that are slated to be returned, will they be held onto or what? Is there any info for this? | ||
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I was about five minutes from leaving my house for the airport when I decided to check the forum where I get updates from people with their boots on the ground at my destination. Costa Rica not only declared a state of emergency and closed all of the bars and restaurants. While my flight would have landed before the travel ban started I do not think I would have had the experience I was looking forward to. Cancelled everything a couple hours ago and am pretty bummed about the whole thing. Until now many of the emergency conditions seemed like they could wait another week. |
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@drchaos seems like you are not taking the siatuation seriously. this is not a corona virus vacation. death rate in italy in now 8% italy is unfortunately a good case where people did not take it seriously until too late |
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More positives to shutting down early and for an extended period... China’s coronavirus lockdown likely saved tens of thousands of lives by slashing air pollution from factories and vehicles, according to a new analysis by a Stanford University scientist (Forbes article) |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Drogio You can't really save lives, you can only extend them a bit. Those people will still die. Not trying to be a smart-ass, but without permanent changes in China's pollution rate, I don't see how this could be anything more than a short-term difference? |
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an article about how different societies outside the US are facing the virus https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/opinion/article/3075449/what-my-coronavirus-tour-taught-me-hong-kong-stoic-italy-laughs |
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time to find out your blood type https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3075567/people-blood-type-may-be-more-vulnerable-coronavirus-china-study |
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@poka Optimistically, everyone knows their blood type because they donate if they can. I'm a universal donor (O-), the Red Cross can't keep their hands off me. | ||
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O- baby! Unfortunately I can't donate for another year because of that whole being in Afghanistan thing. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by poka Costa Rica seemed safer than New Jersey to me. I thought I could safely avoid the problem for a week. |
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Well I am type A, the wife is type O. Hope she takes came of my comics! @xkonk - Even with my A+ blood, I get phone calls and emails from the Blood Center all the time reminding me I will be able to give blood again soon and to make an appointment. There are four blood drives at my high school every year, and at many high schools throughout the state. With all schools being shut down, there will be bigger shortages than ever. Another ripple effect. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by drchaos might be but airport and airplane are just two areas you do not wish to be in |
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