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The apple sauce and pudding were the best part... Bronte private msg quote post Address this user
There are some states where they are not restricting anything yet. If we are seriously considering doing it, I say we watch with trepidation to see what happens in those states before we do anything federally.

Personally, I dont think it's a good idea. Italy is just recently getting their situation under some minor control, and china and s. korea I believe were successful in decreasing illness with the social distancing and isolation. Why not follow what works? But this is coming from a person that knows absolutely nothing about illness and what is best practice.
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I think that small business (7 or less) should be able to work if theres no customer contact. Like people who can work in a warehouse or something. Just my opinion of course
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From someone who has been working the whole time.

I do believe you'll see people start coming back to work in phases.
I too have worked the entire time, albeit without my part time job, and overtime hours at my regular one. ….I think some work has to continue...grocery stocking, mail delivery to some degree, fire and emergency services, etc
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I don't think I'm going to be back for a few more weeks. Someone is getting tested at our main office after displaying symptoms and Wright Pat AFB went into Health Protection Condition (HPCON) Charlie which is essential personnel only more or less. Telework is the pits and results in me buying stuff.
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“On Monday, the World Health Organization warned ‘the pandemic is accelerating’ with it taking 67 days for cases to reach the 100,000 mark globally, 11 days for cases to reach 200,000 and just four days for cases to reach 300,000.“
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I'd like to say I still turned out alright, but that would be a lie. flanders private msg quote post Address this user
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“On Monday, the World Health Organization warned ‘the pandemic is accelerating’ with it taking 67 days for cases to reach the 100,000 mark globally, 11 days for cases to reach 200,000 and just four days for cases to reach 300,000.“


While disregarding the fact that testing is also accelerating and data being reported from China is inaccurate. The pandemic could very well be slowing down.
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@flanders

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While disregarding the fact that testing is also accelerating and data being reported from China is inaccurate. The pandemic could very well be slowing down.

How off do you think China’s numbers are? If anything they would want to downplay the numbers from what they actually are, no?
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@flanders

How off do you think China’s numbers are?


No idea, all I know is that it's hard to reach any conclusions about the data at this time, with so many countries, possibly even the United States, that aren't reporting accurate data and have shifted away from testing unless it will change the course of treatment. I also read somewhere that at times, some nations won't report COVID-19 as the cause of death if it leads to pneumonia or another health issue that ultimately leads to a patient's death. The WHO estimates 80% of cases are mild and 20% are severe to critical requiring hospitalization. I think if you take the 80,000 cases being reported that are likely the more severe cases as representing 20%, then 320,000 cases for the 80% of mild cases that possibly went unreported, there are at least 400,000 cases in China. I can't question the accuracy of data and statements from the WHO and then use it as support for my estimation so no one will ever know the true number of cases or deaths anywhere in the world.

This added to the fact that we don't know the short and long-term repercussions for those that get the virus and recover, makes it especially dangerous.

I still find myself glued to my computer and spending far too much time looking at data so don't listen to me, at the end of the day I'm an irrational basket case that should probably find something better to do with my time
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No idea, all I know is that it's hard to reach any conclusions about the data at this time, with so many countries, possibly even the United States, that aren't reporting accurate data and have shifted away from testing unless it will change the course of treatment. I also read somewhere that at times, some nations won't report COVID-19 as the cause of death if it leads to pneumonia or another health issue that ultimately leads to a patient's death. The WHO estimates 80% of cases are mild and 20% are severe to critical requiring hospitalization. I think if you take the 80,000 cases being reported that are likely the more severe cases as representing 20%, then 320,000 cases for the 80% of mild cases that possibly went unreported, there are at least 400,000 cases in China. I can't question the accuracy of data and statements based on that data from the WHO and then use it as support for my estimation so no one will ever know the true number of cases or deaths anywhere in the world.

This added to the fact that we don't know the short and long-term repercussions for those that get the virus and recover, makes it especially dangerous.


Well, if some countries “have shifted away from testing”, then perhaps there are even more cases than the data shows.

WHO knows lol
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My county won’t even test anymore. They say it doesn’t matter if you test positive or not, there’s nothing we can do go home. The two drive thrus were closed. What’s that say about numbers?
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I'd like to say I still turned out alright, but that would be a lie. flanders private msg quote post Address this user
@CaptainCanuck I can't say this specifically about any countries, but Los Angeles County, with a population of around 10 million has taken this stance:

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"The county’s Public Health Department sent a memo out to health care workers Thursday, March 19, that said the department “is shifting from a strategy of case containment to slowing disease transmission.”

In pursuit of that goal, the memo said, officials are now recommending health care workers only test patients for COVID-19 “when a diagnostic result will change clinical management or inform public health response.”

Apparently they want to "[slow] disease transmission" without knowing for certain who has tested positive. To me, there may be underlying corruption that is dictating this stance. Many more people would be eligible for short term disability if they have a COVID-19 positive test result requiring them to self-quarantine and stay home from work (or if working from home to stop working do things that will reduce stress and strengthen the immune system). I'm sure there are many other factors in play but I definitely don't trust the state of California to make decisions in the best interest of it's residents.

If you look at a chart that breaks down the cases per state, this could be why California has fewer confirmed cases than New York even though it has double the population (20 million vs 40 million)

I suspect that the lack of testing here is the main reason the cases are so low. Even though you would think the more mild winters on the west coast would lead to more transmission of the virus since individuals are more active, maybe the increased vitamin D that boosts the immune system could be leading to less cases in sunnier states.

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Without a politifcal slant, I am curious how everyone feels about the possible idea of people going back to work and if they see this as a good thing or bad idea...I am also curious if there are possible intermediate steps that could be done..like working in distanced areas, via shifts or something...ideas?


I haven’t stopped working. Fortunately my company switched to 2 completely separate shifts starting yesterday, which cuts down my cohabitation from 3500 to maybe 1700 😳. Having my own office keeps the exposure and stress levels down. Heart palpitations were the norm for me last week. Still sucks to be putting my family at risk, but still getting paid.

A co-worker whose desk is 20 feet from me was told to leave last Tuesday (along with 7 others who worked closely with him) as his child was exposed to a Coronavirus child and he was exhibiting symptoms. He was tested Wednesday...6 days later he still doesn’t have results and none of the other quarantined people have not been told whether they were actually exposed or not. With others olin the country and state getting results back within 24 hrs his situation is totally unacceptable.
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A co-worker whose desk is 20 feet from me was told to leave last Tuesday (along with 7 others who worked closely with him) as his child was exposed to a Coronavirus child and he was exhibiting symptoms. He was tested Wednesday...6 days later he still doesn’t have results and none of the other quarantined people have not been told whether they were actually exposed or not. With others olin the country and state getting results back within 24 hrs his situation is totally unacceptable.


So, the person you write about has a child that was exposed to the virus and is showing symptoms. Then he decides it is a good idea to go to work? I think I'd have had a talk with my HR department about 8 seconds after he told me that and been busy with my disinfectant wipes. Hope for you and everyone else at your workplace he doesn't have it.

CDC says coronavirus survived in Princess Cruise ship cabins for up to 17 days after passengers left
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A Japanese drug flu drug, Favipiravir, has 2 control studies done on it in China showing that it might be a very viable treatment for the virus.

Japanese flu drug 'clearly effective' in treating coronavirus, says China
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So, the person you write about has a child that was exposed to the virus and is showing symptoms. Then he decides it is a good idea to go to work? I think I'd have had a talk with my HR department about 8 seconds after he told me that and been busy with my disinfectant wipes. Hope for you and everyone else at your workplace he doesn't have it.

CDC says coronavirus survived in Princess Cruise ship cabins for up to 17 days after passengers left


No. To my knowledge the child did not have symptoms. And to my knowledge the child has not exhibited symptoms or been tested.

The company policy came out last Monday on what to do and who to call. He was escorted out last Tuesday morning. I’m not sure when he found out about his child’s exposure...may have been that morning for all I know.

Do to HIPAA laws we cannot talk to those involved. I’m hearing this second hand as a week later it’s like no communication on what’s going on...but I can say the person lives in my town and there’s only been one case documented so far (a women) which could be his wife, for all I know. But no case of a man or child.

So my concern isn’t whether this person had it or not....but the lack of or delays in information being shared with fellow employees. When timing of information flow down may be critical to saving lives, hipaa and lawyers are getting in the way, so it seems, potentially increasing others risks.

I believe my situation here is stable, but it gives me a lack of confidence in The health care system here with respect to testing and getting results back fast.
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This entire process is compounded by misinformation and a breakdown in viable protocol. I have no idea how easy it is to contract this disease or how long it survives on surfaces relative to texture, temperature and chemical applications....I don't know how many strains there are or if it will become resistant to present medication being tested. I also suspect there will be a resurgence of the virus...but will it be easier to manage or will it be more aggressive with a higher mortality rate.
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@Drogio You stated he told you a member of his family was exposed to someone who was positive. I’d be more p——ed at the poor decision making by my inconsiderate co-worker who may have exposed me to the virus than 1) HIPPA laws, 2) lawyers, or 3) the issues surrounding the backlog of tests and your wait time on results.

Can’t wait to read your post(s) on the national rollout of a vaccine, if and when, it becomes available. You’ll be dealing with wait times, a backlog, HIPPA laws, and lawyers then too.
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@Drogio You stated he told you a member of his family was exposed to someone who was positive. I’d be more p——ed at the poor decision making by my inconsiderate co-worker who may have exposed me to the virus than 1) HIPPA laws, 2) lawyers, or 3) the issues surrounding the backlog of tests and your wait time on results.


Where did I say “he told Me”? I don’t even know the guy’s name. He works under someone else and I have never spoken a word to him. And due to hipaa rules we can’t talk about him anymore! (Maybe the conspiracy theorists are right about this one).



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@Drogio

Gosh my bad. I guess with his desk being 20 feet from yours I thought ya'll would chat.
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Please continue to ignore anything I post. southerncross private msg quote post Address this user
One thing about the shut down. Haven't been lazy eating out every night. Doing a lot of cooking at home.

Tonight fresh wild king salmon
11.99 a pound plus a 10% employee discount 👍
And I just got a email from Fed ex my books have been delivered. 😀


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Ok all, I cleaned up this thread once!! We do not allow ANY drug talk (illegal or legal) and what part of NO POLITICS do you not get?
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@southerncross I'm totally jealous! That looks awesome!!!
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what part of NO POLITICS do you not get?

Hmm ... the definition? Perhaps you could expand on what that means to you?
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Ok all, I cleaned up this thread once!! We do not allow ANY drug talk (illegal or legal) and what part of NO POLITICS do you not get?

sorry jess...not sure why I didnt know that..but I do now (the drug part..I knew about the political part )
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@southerncross That's awesome! I was fortunate enough to live in King Salmon, AK for a year.
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Please continue to ignore anything I post. southerncross private msg quote post Address this user
@Jesse_O thanks mate.

One benefit of working in a seafood Dept in a grocery store.
I always get the freshest fish at great prices. Going to give one of the fillets to the mother in law so I stay in her good graces 😀
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@Jesse_O thanks mate.

One benefit of working in a seafood Dept in a grocery store.
I always get the freshest fish at great prices. Going to give one of the fillets to the mother in law so I stay in her good graces 😀


your wife obviously picked you for your brains! good job!
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