cgc video grading superman 111288
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| Not totally sure how to share the link but on the cgc facebook page there is a video of a grader handling Superman 1. It is shockingly disturbing. I don't even read my own comics that I just bought this way. Check out the vid on their facebook page. I think comictom filmed it. | ||
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 I'd like to say I still turned out alright, but that would be a lie.
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flanders private msg quote post Address this user | |
| This might work: clickable text I don't even handle my potential $50 comics if they get graded and slabbed as a 9.8 like that. I'm surprised this video is still up on their page. |
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 Masculinity takes a holiday.
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Quote:Originally Posted by moodswing I assume he already was aware of the cut-out page. If he had been grading a higher grade book, then the handling would have been disturbingly rough. But that book in that condition, he wasn't going to lower the grade any unless he really tried to. Kind of like how I sweat over packing and shipping high grade books, but 4.0 and below I can worry a lot less about. |
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BrianGreensnips private msg quote post Address this user | |
| WOW! Just WOW. One little slip of the hand and Wrriipp! Oops! The way he was cruising through the pages made think that he was ready to do a magic trick and make a quarter appear. | ||
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moodswing private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @EbaySeller A 0.5 goes for around 22k. The difference from a .5 to a 1 is around 70k. It appears we have very different views on handling expensive comics. |
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@moodswing I agree, I was already cringing without even knowing how much that book is worth even with tape on the spine and the missing coupon  |
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flanders private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I hope CBCS responds with their opinion on the handling of this comic. | ||
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| . The way he drops his hands at the end, like a poker dealer 🤣  |
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EbayMafia private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by moodswing Fair enough, allow me to reword: The handling of the book was oddly rough and it made the video worth sharing. But as for grading such an accumulation of defects, he could rip a page, split the spine, probably even write on it with a marker and I think the grade would remain the same. Not that the owner would be too happy with seeing those things happen to their book. |
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I'd like to say I still turned out alright, but that would be a lie.
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flanders private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Here's another link to the video from CGC's instagram. clickable text The guy handling the comic is Matt Nelson a primary grader at CGC. |
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 Suck it up, buttercup!!
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KatKomics private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Kind of seems like the instagram reaction to the video and reactions here are not really what CGC was hoping for!! I think @EbaySeller is right...probably not much could have moved the grade but still...yikes!!! I mean....I'm fine with no gloves and I get that the paper stock was thicker back then but if this is common practice it's best not to let anyone know!! |
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I'd like to say I still turned out alright, but that would be a lie.
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flanders private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Breaking News: CGC Primary Grader Matt Nelson changes name to Half Nelson after video of him wrestling with a Superman 1 comic valued at more than $20,000 goes viral. Note: He is of no known relation to forum member Ed Nelson so please refrain from criticizing Ed at this time. |
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 The apple sauce and pudding were the best part...
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| Scrolling down that Facebook page there is a video explaining why you grade with no gloves. I just cant fathom it with a mostly black cover for finger prints. | ||
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Darkseid_of_town private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Well bright side at least it wasn't a really high end book like Micronauts 1.... | ||
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 Johnny, where are your buccaneers?Johnny: Under my buccan hat. |
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| Wow. For a book that valuable I would think more care and a more thorough examination would be required No check for tares or holes in pages No check for pages separated from staples No check for tape on pages or taped or glued in page No fine check for writing on pages No check for trimming No check for color touch A question arises Is this a actual grading or just them showing off. “Hey look at us” I’m sure they don’t see this book everyday so imagine being the owner of this book and seeing them handle his/her book that’s 80+ years old and somewhat brittle If Me I would drive to CGC and ask to see the owner or main man. I’d play the video and say “WTF” So even if it was them just showing off my hair would be on fire. It a real shiff show and I would pull that off and tell everyone that they fired that guy. Here’s another “WOW”.  |
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Johnny, where are your buccaneers? Johnny: Under my buccan hat. |
Gotlift private msg quote post Address this user | |
| And speaking of handling books. Have you ever watched the Main Street Comics Auction on Facebook. Or the unpacking of their new shipment There’s a real “WOW” |
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Quote:Originally Posted by flanders why should they? |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Gotlift it is not a secret that if you wish best grade for your books you walk in during a con |
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MightyThor460 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I think there is a solid disconnect from the way those in the business handle books and the way us collectors handle them. I was shocked when I discovered Diamond just stacks books in a box with no protection when they ship the new books. It explains a lot. But it also begs the question, are the pros too cavalier or are do we care too much? | ||
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 I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this.
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GAC private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I guess I'm in the minority here. I didn't see any terrible man-handling. The pages were supple (not brittle) and the guy is the head grader at CGC. I'm going to go out on a limb and say he knows exactly what he's doing. | ||
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Johnny, where are your buccaneers? Johnny: Under my buccan hat. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by GAC I’m just saying driving a 2010 Honda with 300,000 miles on it is one thing Driving a Ferrari or a Lamborghini etc Deserves a little more respect Yeah he can drive but my Ferrari “NO” “I have spoken”. Lol. |
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 Not trying to be an ass since February 12, 2020.
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That video is playing fast. I think the book was handled appropriately. But the speed of that video made me cringe as he seemingly whizzed through that book  whoever edited the video made poor choices. |
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| He seems to have known about the missing coupon. I would suspect that the book was graded and then for promotion purposes, the comic being a superman 1 and all, they decided to "recreate" the process and call it a page count check. Also we do not know the specific grader's process. Does the grader prefer to count the pages and then go through a comprehensive grading process or does he grade and then count the pages. However, it doesn't excuse the handling. The last time CBCS was at NYCC, Steve Borock handled my X-men 4 (1991) like it was an X-men 4 (1963). |
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Upon slowing down the playback speed, you can clearly see the book being handled roughly.  To me, it looked worse than it really was just based on the speed of the playback. Comics aren't like babies where you can just manhandle them. They need to be treated with kindness and care. |
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 -Our Odin-Rest in Peace |
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| This guy did a youtube video on it. You can skip the first 3:50 of it. He definitely is worked up over it!!! |
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| @Studley_Dudley Quote: Originally Posted by Studley_Dudley You manhandle babies? |
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Beaten by boat oars
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Studley_Dudley private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I can neither confirm nor deny that. I will admit to enjoying the practice of making them. | ||
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BrianGreensnips private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I showed my wife the video that @Jesse_O posted. First I want to mention that my wife sees me use gloves sometimes like when reading my Doomsday Clock books or evaluating my older books. I also told her that the book is worth about $20K. Here is my wife's comments. "So this book is worth $20K, why is he not wearing gloves?" She also said this guy looks like a serial killer with his glasses over his hat. She said he give guys like me who love comics a bad image. She said "look at this guy getting all worked up over this" I invite you guys to show this to your spouse. It would be interesting to get feedback of their views. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Jesse_O "LOOK AT THAT! LOOK... AT... THAT" lolololololololololool |
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