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| My LCS sells the plastic BCW bins for $25, I believe. Might be $29.99, but I seem to remember them being $25. | ||
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 I had no way of knowing that 9.8 graded copies signed by Adam Hughes weren't what you were looking for.
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| Filled up all four bins from BJ's Wholesale with hardcovers, and stacked them up. Here are the pictures:   Not bad for $20 plus tax. |
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 We should have the forum rate our packages.
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Quote:Originally Posted by drchaosi think I could fill those with Hellblazer volumes alone. |
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We should have the forum rate our packages.
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It’s crazy to me to hear about the thoughts of gases, new air, and stacking of slabs. I guess it’s just never occurred to me. Now that I think about it I’d be less likely to put these babies into containers than slabs, and really they are worthless. Not to me though. |
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 I hear their hourly rate is outrageous!
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Quote:Originally Posted by Bronte I'm down with 9 dollars per box and free shipping at that! |
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We should have the forum rate our packages.
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HeinzDad private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by sportshortI just looked also, interesting. |
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 I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this.
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GAC private msg quote post Address this user | |
when I click the link I see this...$89.99...is that right? |
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 I have a problem with fattening women up.
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Bronte private msg quote post Address this user | |
 You get screwed on shipping unfortunately. They do sell these at bags unlimited as well. However, the ones at bags do not come with the handles. (Granted I never figured out how to install the handles) |
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Bronte private msg quote post Address this user | |
 Not sure what their cost is now, but this was for qty 10 at bags on may of 2019 |
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| I pay 7.50-9.00 for a crappy short box depending on the lcs. At 90 or whatever for a ten count I’d say it’s an offer. | ||
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| Correction: that’s a regular short shitty box, not a graded box! | ||
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I have a problem with fattening women up.
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| @HeinzDad Tell us how you really feel..... =) |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Donnied  what’s the point in having them if you’re never going to take them out of the box to look at them?Give them to me....I’ll keep them safe and you’ll never know they’re gone...  |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Bronte I have a few of these...a little expensive, but definitely the way to go if you can’t afford the bcw plastic. |
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| @Drogio That comment was just to point out that there are factors that are so insignificant and uncontrollable, that you can go to such extreme lengths to protect your comics that you can actually destroy the enjoyment of the hobby. The three levels of preservation are: 1. The big factors - Fire, Flood, Theft 2. The middle factors - Heat, Humidity, Light, Acid 3. The small factors - Out-gassing from plastic, Air Turn-over I emphasize the first two, and try to minimize the effects of the third. |
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| Yeah but umm outgassing as a direct by-product of plastic products is hardly small nor a third place entry that can be sacrificed for the benefit of saving a few dollars over using products with inert materials | ||
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| But, umm, since these tubs are not made of pvc, there is no outgassing. You can tell which products are inert, like these tubs, by looking at the recycling code, if it says "PP" under it, it means its made of polypropylene, which is an inert plastic. Avoid materials made of polyvinyl. | ||
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| I have a question regarding storage of graded comics. If I were to put my grades comics in a really good storage container (not sure what that would be) but they be able to withstand the temperature fluctuations in an attic. I live around the DFW so it gets balls hot and really cold. | ||
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| @bige31 The books should not be put into any extreme temperatures. Ideally a humidity controlled air conditioned environment. If you nuke them in the attic, you are asking for problems. |
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| @Bronte that’s what I thought. I just didn’t know if you could insult a crate and put them up there. I’m just really running out of space lol | ||
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Bronte private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Perhaps it's time to thin the herd if space is that much of an issue. But weren't you the person that just bought a house? |
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Quote:Originally Posted by DonniedA rather common mistake many make an sadly easily debunked. https://www.nps.gov/museum/publications/conserveogram/18-02.pdf Direct quote...US government guide to Museums.... "For collections, never use plastics with fillers, plasticizers or other additives. These can release harmful degradation products over time. Also, avoid plastics that have chlorine or sulfur containing compounds. Such plastics can off-gas volatile acids and harm collections. Do not use any of the following plastics for long-term storage or exhibit purposes: • PVC (polyvinyl chloride) • PVDC (polyvinylidene) • PVA (polyvinyl acetate), found in adhesives and paints • acidic polyesters • polyurethane foams • chloroprene (e.g. Neoprene®) • urea formaldehyde panels (such as Gator Foam®)" As you can clearly see, PVC is NOT the only problematic plastic or the only one that can contain elements that can release gases or harm your collectibles. |
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Donnied private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Cool and dry is the simplest rule. Attics tend to be either hot or really hot - not good at all. | ||
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| @Bronte I wish lol. I probably do need to thin the heard but I just need to reorganize and box is my problem. But I thought with that kinda stuff I could put somewhere and it just not be in the way. | ||
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| Thin the beard? | ||
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| think he was going for herd and came up with beard, but who knows, perhaps beards and books are related somehow. | ||
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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Darkseid_of_town I don't see where he made a mistake though. I don't think he meant to imply PVC was the only off-gassing plastic. He did state these tubs were stamped with a "PP" which stands for polypropylene which don't off-gas. Not sure where the problem is with his post? |
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| @Darkseid_of_town Of course your comment doesn't debunk anything, it actually supports it. All of the materials listed that are actually dense enough to make a storage container, are all polyvinyls, just like I stated. Hopefully nobody would try to make a comic storage container out of neoprene, foam, or formaldehyde panels! And if you didn't notice, polypropylene is not in that guide. | ||
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| @Drogio @Darkseid_of_town yes I meant heard. The b is right underneath the h on my iPhone. But I do need to get a beard trim mine is looking scraggly. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Donnied Really no need to debunk anything there.....my point is , was and remains what I posted...."For collections, never use plastics with fillers, plasticizers or other additives. "Taken directly from the government guide used by all US museums and institutions. Attempting to shape the argument as suggesting the item must be MADE of those materials is a straw man argument at best...when I specifically stated, fillers, plasticizers, or additives... This is part and whole why a secondary market for archival safe, and inert plastic containers for storage of comic books exists. Also most people never think about the flexible lids...while the rating on the basin might suggest safe, it does nothing for the lid itself. Rugged, translucent, reusable plastic containers made in a wide variety of shapes and sizes for consumers from various companies such as Rubbermaid and Sterilite are commonly made of polypropylene, although the lids are often made of somewhat more flexible LDPE so they can snap onto the container to close it. See here...When exposed to ambient solar radiation the plastic produces two greenhouse gases, methane and ethylene. Due to its low density properties (branching) it breaks down more easily over time, leading to higher surface areas. The production of these trace gases from virgin LDPE increase with surface area/time, with rates at the end of a 212-day incubation of 5.8 nmol g-1 d-1 of methane, 14.5 nmol g-1 d-1 of ethylene, 3.9 nmol g-1 d-1 of ethane and 9.7 nmol g-1 d-1 of propylene. When incubated in air, LDPE emits gases at rates ~2 times and ~76 times higher in comparison to water for methane and ethylene, respectively. Finally , and as I stated above, while a safer plastic may be used as a base, it likely has other ingredients or additives which may or may not be as safe, but without the specific information what additives and ingredients are added it isn't easy to know..... See here..... Do polypropylene containers off-gas, and is it harmful to people? Steve Blumenkranz, Mechanical Engineer "This may be a hard question to answer with certainty. Polypropylene is one of the highest annual manufactured volume among all plastics. It is available in a very wide range of compounds specialized for easy injecti0n or other types of molding, for varying flexibility (by adding plasticizers), color, UV resistance, etc. Each additive may or may not have some volatile component. The container manufacturer may not be willing to share the compound information with an inquiring consumer out of concerns such as industrial spying, consumer liability or just not knowing or caring. Even if "they know", that may mean one person in their manufacturing department out of many employees and my guess is the receptionist will not be able to direct you correctly even if allowed to. So you might have to take it to a specialized lab with expertise in these additives and the chemical analytical equipment (FTIR or Raman spectroscopy) to find out." |
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