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Which is the best investment today...GS xmen 1 or Hulk 181..you decide10877

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GSX has more room to grow but I will say there will be another big spike in 181 when Wolverine debuts. Wolverine is still super popular, arguably the second only to spider-man. He is the main reason why I collect comics. GSX still has a ton of 1st appearances though. I think Storm will blow up because I see Disney making her a prominent character. GSX also has the first Illyana and Krakoa. Not sure how much of an investment they both are though if you are buying now at fmv. Probably too late to make a lot of money.
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I'll probably wake up constipated. Pre_Coder private msg quote post Address this user
I'll take an IH-181 with a nice cover wrap anytime.
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I have a nice 8.5 GSX #1 but I still need to join the 181 club. If the right opportunity comes along it might happen. But I would rather get my Daredevil #1 first.
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Please continue to ignore anything I post. southerncross private msg quote post Address this user
Hulk 181

Fifty years time say x-men and that could mean 30 plus characters

Say wolverine and there is just one
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I'm sticking with my initial belief that GS X-men #1 will be the better investment, at least for the next 2-3 years.

I used the GoCollect Modeler to look at prices, comparing last 6 months prices vs last 2 years prices for both books in 8.5 and 9.0. GS X-men #1 is up about 25% in both grades while Hulk 181 is down about 4% in both grades. I expect this trend will continue for a while. I'm guessing that Hulk 181 currently has the highest price to (slabbed) supply ratio of any book in existence? At some point books reach a level that really limits the number of potential buyers.

I said that backwards. Should have said Hulk 181 probably has the highest slabbed supply of any book in it's price category. Meaning that it has achieved prices that only go to books in much shorter supply.
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I'll take an IH-181 with a nice cover wrap anytime.


This!
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I'll take an IH-181 with a nice cover wrap anytime.


This!


You quoted yourself! Lol.
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I'll take an IH-181 with a nice cover wrap anytime.


This!


You quoted yourself! Lol.


Hahaha I'm dying. It reminds me of this I saw a few weeks ago:


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Hahaha I'm dying. It reminds me of this I saw a few weeks ago:


Clearly he's not planning on applying for jobs anytime soon.
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Hulk 181

Fifty years time say x-men and that could mean 30 plus characters

Say wolverine and there is just one
but this isn't true...x-23 for instance. Everything from rmerly unique about that character has been done to others now. Hulk with claws. Etc
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Thank you sir. May I have another? Siggy private msg quote post Address this user
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180 is something people bring up because they have one and can’t afford a 181.


I own both- Bought my 181 in 1989.
Long before I bought a 180 (2014 or so), I considered it Wolverine's 1st appearance. No adjectives- Just "1st Apperance." Was there a story appearance before 180? No. Was there a story appearance before 181? Yes.

That's why I always say 180.

181 is clearly the book that the market (us) made more valuable. Wolverine is in the whole book, and probably MOST importantly, the cover. There's no rule saying the 1st appearance must be the more valuable one.

I think Jimmy Olsen 134 is the 1st Appearance of Darkseid. I think it's just about the lamest 1st Appearance in Comic history, but was there a story appearance before 134? etc. If the market one day decides Forever People (I have both) to be THE one to have, like Hulk 181, so be it. It doesn't change which comic has the 1st Appearance.

Anyway, which between H181 & GSX1? I personally would say GSX1 because it's a better book. I think 181 sucks lol. If value were my motivator, making me not care about the cover/story/art, then I'd probably say H181- But someday if they make good X-Men films, GSX1 might take the lead (I have one- An X-Men 94 too).
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Time will tell that’s what’s great about the hobby. I still want a gsx 1
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Hulk 181

Fifty years time say x-men and that could mean 30 plus characters

Say wolverine and there is just one
but this isn't true...x-23 for instance. Everything from rmerly unique about that character has been done to others now. Hulk with claws. Etc


Same can be said about Superman
You have Superboy Supergirl ect.
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180 is something people bring up because they have one and can’t afford a 181.


I own both- Bought my 181 in 1989.
Long before I bought a 180 (2014 or so), I considered it Wolverine's 1st appearance. No adjectives- Just "1st Apperance." Was there a story appearance before 180? No. Was there a story appearance before 181? Yes.

That's why I always say 180.

181 is clearly the book that the market (us) made more valuable. Wolverine is in the whole book, and probably MOST importantly, the cover. There's no rule saying the 1st appearance must be the more valuable one.

I think Jimmy Olsen 134 is the 1st Appearance of Darkseid. I think it's just about the lamest 1st Appearance in Comic history, but was there a story appearance before 134? etc. If the market one day decides Forever People (I have both) to be THE one to have, like Hulk 181, so be it. It doesn't change which comic has the 1st Appearance.

Anyway, which between H181 & GSX1? I personally would say GSX1 because it's a better book. I think 181 sucks lol. If value were my motivator, making me not care about the cover/story/art, then I'd probably say H181- But someday if they make good X-Men films, GSX1 might take the lead (I have one- An X-Men 94 too).


I have gx1 no hulk 181
I did pick up in 2019 Jimmy Olsen 134 and forever people 1
As to first Darkseid
If the cameo in 134 was followed by 135 with Darkseid on the cover going toe to toe with Superman I'd bet good money the 135 would be the more valuable.
Market is strange at times.
Whatever the collectors chase dictates price and demand. Always has always will.
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Hulk 180...mainly because that's what I have....until I get a 181 then it will be that one

I like that 180 is getting some love..when I sent this in for SS I was miffed that the grading etc was more than I paid for the book and Mr Trimpe's signature was free!!
Might have to see if CGC's pressing service can bump this up



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past performance is no guarantee of future actions. KatKomics private msg quote post Address this user
Darkseid is a mess....I have 134 (in like 3-4), 135x3 in 9++ and 2 Forever People 8-9??

Like others have said how in the world is 134 so much...not just one panel but only his head on a TV screen!!! At least the 1 panel Wolvie was in was a full body shot!
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Hulk 181

Fifty years time say x-men and that could mean 30 plus characters

Say wolverine and there is just one
but this isn't true...x-23 for instance. Everything from rmerly unique about that character has been done to others now. Hulk with claws. Etc


Same can be said about Superman
You have Superboy Supergirl ect.
I completely agree. Or Batman. Batmite Batgirl bstwoman batwang? End of the day it's taking a good thing and saturating the market with it till it's no longer unique
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Darkseid is a mess....I have 134 (in like 3-4), 135x3 in 9++ and 2 Forever People 8-9??

Like others have said how in the world is 134 so much...not just one panel but only his head on a TV screen!!! At least the 1 panel Wolvie was in was a full body shot!
I am.similar. I have a perhaps 6.0-or 7 grade 134 ..five copies of 135 including a slabbed 9.2 and three forever people 1 all scattered over 5.0 and higher. I even covered the first cover with a slabbed 9.2 New God's 2 but yeah I really agree
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I think Jimmy 134 has a unique kind of mystique to it because it lived in total obscurity for like 50 years. Then one day someone said "Hey, isn't that Darkseid's head on that tiny monitor thing? Take that book out of the dollar bin". It has kind of a discovered treasure feel to it.
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@EbaySeller agree. And a guess that Jimmy was a less read collected title of the Superman family books. As for Darkseid I'm slowly picking up the entire 4th world books so whatever the future holds I will be cool with it.
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I'm a #2. BigRedOne1944 private msg quote post Address this user
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Which camp do you belong to, and what is your thought process...regarding which book moving forward might be the best decision as an investment?


Depends on the wrap.




This


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I'll take an IH-181 with a nice cover wrap anytime.



and this.
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Collector NoNoNoNoNoYes private msg quote post Address this user
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I think Jimmy 134 has a unique kind of mystique to it because it lived in total obscurity for like 50 years.

😆 not even close.
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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this. GAC private msg quote post Address this user
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Darkseid is a mess....not just one panel but only his head on a TV screen!!!



in profile silhouette no less...
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Darkseid is a mess....not just one panel but only his head on a TV screen!!!



in profile silhouette no less...


Just like Dark Days: The Casting #1 is the Batman Who Laughs first appearance in cameo.


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Collector NoNoNoNoNoYes private msg quote post Address this user
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Darkseid is a mess....not just one panel but only his head on a TV screen!!!



in profile silhouette no less...


?
Worst 1st appearance ever. Doesn't even look like Darkseid.


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Thank you sir. May I have another? Siggy private msg quote post Address this user
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Darkseid is a mess....not just one panel but only his head on a TV screen!!!



in profile silhouette no less...


Are you thinking of Apocalypse?
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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this. GAC private msg quote post Address this user
@Siggy did I get that wrong? maybe I am thinking of Apocalypse.
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Thank you sir. May I have another? Siggy private msg quote post Address this user
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@Siggy did I get that wrong? maybe I am thinking of Apocalypse.

I think so. That's his 1st appearance in the post above. Looks more like Paste Pot Pete than Darkseid.
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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this. GAC private msg quote post Address this user
interesting video from GoCollect..GSX1 and Hulk 181 are #1s on both lists.

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Video is probably a shocker for all those answering Hulk 181 is just unstoppable...but the sales trends support that this may continue for a few years and prices may adjust down for the one book while moving upward for the other.

Probably hard to lose getting either book long term, but the short term still seems to favor giant size 1 for me
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