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Personally I think 9.9 should be omitted from the grading equation. 9.8 to 10 is perfectly acceptable. 9.9 is too damn ANAL.
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All great info.

Did you send those Batman Damned off right away. Can I assume you didn't read any of them?

I guess what has me curious at this point is could a book that's been read still get a 10 or 9.9?

I did not read any of them. Well ... I read one. Even sent it in. Have no idea which one though.

I think it could, if you read it carefully, wash your hands first or wear gloves. Don't see why not. Maybe don't open it all the way? Remember, some 9.9's and even 10.0's have signatures on them, and still got the grade. Also, graders look at every page ... that's three people reading the comic, at least. They are just perfectly printed, with no bindery tears on the corners or color breaks on the spine; no scratches on a glossy cover, and the colors pop, and don't have any printing defects or color misalignment. The corners haven't even been blunted a little bit. And the staples are even.

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Personally I think 9.9 should be omitted from the grading equation. 9.8 to 10 is perfectly acceptable.

I think they have the 9.9 so they can have a comic with something noticeable to complain about, but it wouldn't be fair to make it a 9.8 along with all the other dregs that low.
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If you want to closely observe a perfect book, though, Gem Mints are certainly a treat.


I enjoy looking at a 9.6 or 9.8 that is 40 or 50 years old. It has a story behind how it managed to survive all those years relatively unblemished. It has intrigue value. But a recently printed Gem Mint...for me there is just no intrigue, no backstory to contemplate.
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When I grabbed my chair earlier I knew where this was going, because many many of the modern books being printed are quite thin and when you buy them, they have those obvious roller marks that keep it from scoring higher...another set of books this is often noticeable and pressable in is Edge of the spiderverse, with the high flying issue 2....
Also see those marks rather consistently on copies of Female furies 1 in particular.
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When I grabbed my chair earlier I knew where this was going, because many many of the modern books being printed are quite thin and when you buy them, they have those obvious roller marks that keep it from scoring higher...another set of books this is often noticeable and pressable in is Edge of the spiderverse, with the high flying issue 2....
Also see those marks rather consistently on copies of Female furies 1 in particular.


This is a good point. We've mostly focused on modern books for being in the above 9.8 range, and ignored the older ones.

But for that matter, has anyone seen a copper, Bronze or silver age 9.9 or 10?

My guess is that the newer books have the better stock to keep them in near min longer, but present some issues with regards to being "perfect."

Does that sound right or am I off on this?
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Modern books now are crap. The paperstock, the quality, the actual way they print comics in the least expensive way possible (to squeeze out the most profit from a $6 book you read in 5 minutes or less). It's actually more challenging to get a 9.8 on the majority of books printed today. (Especially if there is an "all black" or "all dark" border cover on front or back)
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There are some SA 9.9 or 10.0s, but extremely rare, and even a few GA 9.8 or 9.9s. A 10.0 is absolutely perfect & a 9.9 has 1 tiny, tiny flaw. There is a reason the grade exists.

Roller marks and printing ripples can be pressed out, and if no ink smears, can get 9.9 or 10, after pressing. And don’t forget, it’s the whole book that gets graded. Outside might look perfect, but if any of these things exist inside the book, those are still deductions.
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9.9 and 10 are fake grades design to create artificial rarity. There are literally mountains of 9.9 & 10 books residing in 9.8 slabs. On the flip side, ALL 9's & 10's are 9.8's on any other given day. The subjectivity is extremely high within these grades
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9.9 and to a bigger extent 10.0, are unicorn grades made up by the grading companies to entice people to submit books chasing them. It creates a "Lottery" effect.

CGC and CBCS, and ANY TPGers for that matter have a vested interest in making sure those grades are kept low to ensure the "Lottery" effect stays strong and continues to entice submissions chasing these unrealistic grades.

I also think that more often than not, these grades are reserved for special clientele.


This
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It was a one trick pony show but always hilarious. GAC private msg quote post Address this user
conspiracy theory!!! lol!!
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conspiracy theory!!! lol!!


And This!
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9.9 and 10 are fake grades design to create artificial rarity. There are literally mountains of 9.9 & 10 books residing in 9.8 slabs. On the flip side, ALL 9's & 10's are 9.8's on any other given day. The subjectivity is extremely high within these grades


You are either very jaded or don’t know grading. The absolute ONLY subjectivity at the top is if people miss things wrong with a book. Super-high grades are absolutely defined and do exist; just EXTREMELY rare to find a book without some sort of printing issue.

Since i do not work for any of the TPG cos, i do not give anything higher than 9.4. I cannot guarantee what slab might be nor can i guarantee i did not miss something small.
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9.9 and 10 are fake grades design to create artificial rarity. There are literally mountains of 9.9 & 10 books residing in 9.8 slabs. On the flip side, ALL 9's & 10's are 9.8's on any other given day. The subjectivity is extremely high within these grades


You are either very jaded or don’t know grading. The absolute ONLY subjectivity at the top is if people miss things wrong with a book. Super-high grades are absolutely defined and do exist; just EXTREMELY rare to find a book without some sort of printing issue.

Since i do not work for any of the TPG cos, i do not give anything higher than 9.4. I cannot guarantee what slab might be nor can i guarantee i did not miss something small.



Im very versed in the TPGing game and well aware of how it is played.
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Official terms
10.0 Mint
9.9 Mint-
9.8 NM/M
9.6 NM+
9.4 NM
9.2 NM-
9.0 VF/NM
8.5 VF+
8.0 VF
7.5 VF-
7.0 F/VF
6.5 Fn+
6.0 Fn
5.5 Fn-
5.0 VG/F
4.5 VG+
4.0 VG
3.5 VG-
3.0 G/VG
2.5 Gd+
2.0 Gd
1.8 Gd-
1.5 Fr/G
1.0 Fr
0.8 Pr/Fr
0.5 Pr
0.3 or NG Coverless or further incomplete; usually just to verify book
Pg or NG for single page/folio to verify source


Very cool...I've never seen a 0.8 tho.
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1.0 Fr
0.8 Pr/Fr
0.5 Pr
0.3 or NG Coverless or further incomplete; usually just to verify book
Pg or NG for single page/folio to verify source


Very cool...I've never seen a 0.8 tho.

Just take a 1.0, tear a small piece off the cover, and send it in again. Keep tearing until you get a 0.8.
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I’ve only heard of 0.8; never seen one.
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Just take a 1.0, tear a small piece off the cover, and send it in again. Keep tearing until you get a 0.8.


Brilliant! But your plan relies on grader consistency. I suggest you just crack a 1.5 and send it to MCS. Then you will own a .8.
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To answer your question, no, this is not where the comics go to die. MutantMania private msg quote post Address this user
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Just take a 1.0, tear a small piece off the cover, and send it in again. Keep tearing until you get a 0.8.


Brilliant! But your plan relies on grader consistency. I suggest you just crack a 1.5 and send it to MCS. Then you will own a .8.


Lol...to funny but true 😲
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9.9 and 10 are fake grades design to create artificial rarity. There are literally mountains of 9.9 & 10 books residing in 9.8 slabs. On the flip side, ALL 9's & 10's are 9.8's on any other given day. The subjectivity is extremely high within these grades


By jove , I think you've done it!!!!

And that's another fine mess you've gotten us into Stanley
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I sent in a ASM #28 it was restored is there any way of taking a hit on a restored book and how hard is the hit? Think the top left corner was restored with blue painters tape... let me know what i got to do as well please want to try and get out of restored grade if i can?
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I sent in a ASM #28 it was restored is there any way of taking a hit on a restored book and how hard is the hit? Think the top left corner was restored with blue painters tape... let me know what i got to do as well please want to try and get out of restored grade if i can?
There had to be something else going on with the book. Tape is simply a defect and not considered to be restoration.
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Tim did you have the chance to look at it? Message me if you can?
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Anyone know what "fbnc" means in grading notes? As in many light stains fbnc. Thanks.
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Quick note: You can't press a comic into 9.9/10 grade. Either it is perfect off the presses - or it ain't.


That's not necessarily true, it completely depends on the nature of the defect(s) the book has. If they're non-color breaking it would be possible.

This reply is frightening.


Why? It's true.














You want to tell me those were 9.9 when I first got them? This is 2 of many...



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9.9 and 10 are fake grades design to create artificial rarity. There are literally mountains of 9.9 & 10 books residing in 9.8 slabs. On the flip side, ALL 9's & 10's are 9.8's on any other given day. The subjectivity is extremely high within these grades


You are either very jaded or don’t know grading. The absolute ONLY subjectivity at the top is if people miss things wrong with a book. Super-high grades are absolutely defined and do exist; just EXTREMELY rare to find a book without some sort of printing issue.

Since i do not work for any of the TPG cos, i do not give anything higher than 9.4. I cannot guarantee what slab might be nor can i guarantee i did not miss something small.



Im very versed in the TPGing game and well aware of how it is played.


Not from where I am sitting and reading your posts on this topic.
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Thank you sir. May I have another? Siggy private msg quote post Address this user
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Personally I think 9.9 should be omitted from the grading equation. 9.8 to 10 is perfectly acceptable. 9.9 is too damn ANAL.


Yeah, but if you have one it doesn't hurt as much
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Just take a 1.0, tear a small piece off the cover, and send it in again. Keep tearing until you get a 0.8.


But if after the 2nd attempt a "gift grade" lands a 1.5 or even 1.8, you have to start over and risk a .5 on attempt #3
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If I could, I would. I swear. DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user
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9.9 and 10 are fake grades design to create artificial rarity. There are literally mountains of 9.9 & 10 books residing in 9.8 slabs. On the flip side, ALL 9's & 10's are 9.8's on any other given day. The subjectivity is extremely high within these grades


You are either very jaded or don’t know grading. The absolute ONLY subjectivity at the top is if people miss things wrong with a book. Super-high grades are absolutely defined and do exist; just EXTREMELY rare to find a book without some sort of printing issue.

Since i do not work for any of the TPG cos, i do not give anything higher than 9.4. I cannot guarantee what slab might be nor can i guarantee i did not miss something small.



Im very versed in the TPGing game and well aware of how it is played.


Not from where I am sitting and reading your posts on this topic.


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