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Quote:Originally Posted by theCapraAegagrus Either or. It’s all information I can use, basically. I don’t think I’ve seen a CBCS 10, though. Based on what everyone is saying it seems like a 9.9 or 10 is pretty rare and not something to worry too much about. 9.8 seems to be the most realistic top grade, it seems. What did you mean about not pressing a 9.8 into a 10, though. Couldn’t the pressing conceivably remove those minor flaws or is it that those flaws aren’t anything that can be doctored at that scale? Just curious, and considering I’ll probably never have a 10, probably just for my own knowledge base. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Jabberwookie I honestly hate the 9.9 grade. IMO it -shouldn't- exist. It's like conditional purgatory. I have never seen or heard a single anecdote to suggest that pressing any grade will result in a Mint or Gem Mint comic. What 9.8 flaws are press-able? Gem Mint means literally perfect. Absolutely centered and flawless. Pressing could affect wrap. It could affect the natural Gem Mint look/feel of the paper in rested position. I once considered chasing a set of 9.9s. I would advise anybody and everybody not to do that. Gem Mints are worth it IMO. I don't think that the weird tweener/9.9 grade is worth it. 9.8 is basically the 'standard' top grade. The differences between Gem Mint and 9.8 are almost not recognizable. If you want to closely observe a perfect book, though, Gem Mints are certainly a treat. |
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| @theCapraAegagrus I agree there. I think the 9.9 and even the 10 kind of muddy the waters. When I first got into slabbing, I was told 9.8 was the best then started seeing higher numbers and was curious how the heck you could get better than mint. I doubt I’d bother with going after any specific grade. I just try to get what I like in pretty good condition. I’ve got some newer books though and was curious what grade to consider them on spreadsheet. All this is good stuff. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by TimBildhauser Any chance we could test out this? I’d gladly supply a book that should be 9.8 grade and we could press it. I’m sure you’ve got more experience in this than most, but I’d love to test it just out of a mad scientist-like curiosity. |
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| I'm assuming a 9.8 could be pressed into a 10 if the right conditions were met. Say for instance it was a perfect book except for a slight bend from sitting in a stack wrong. I don't think its the same as if we were to time warp a spine tick out of existence. |
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| I feel like the flaws that separate a 9.8 from a 10.0 aren't actually pressable. I usually get "scuff" or "slight gloss rub" etc... that keeps me out of a 10.0 on my 9.8 grader notes. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by theCapraAegagrus Why? It's true.         You want to tell me those were 9.9 when I first got them? This is 2 of many... |
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| I can tell you right here, right now, that Year of the Villain 1:500 was an absolute son of a ***** to press out. The paperstock and quality is awful. Probably the only 9.9 on census. Edit. Yep. The only one.  |
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Quote:Originally Posted by kaptainmyke They look like 9.8s to me. 9.9s are drek IMO. |
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 If the viagra is working you should be well over a 9.8.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Jabberwookie That is it, exactly: 9.8 is a realistic, achievable goal; 9.9's and 10's are not. I disagree somewhat with @theCapraAegagrus - 9.8 can have flaws and, in particular, pressable flaws to get to 9.9. Finger bends, stacking rolls, most any non-color-breaking crease. Anyway, some people treat 9.8's as perfect, but they aren't. Overstreet even states 9.8's can have 1-2 flaws. More if they are really tiny, almost nondescript. Even a 9.9 can have 1 flaw, per overstreet. But not a significant printing flaw like a 9.8 can have. Printing flaws are acceptable, if they aren't large. 9.8's can have mis-alignments, mis-cuts, overspray (but not on the f.c., or in large quantities), printing smudges, even a discrete shipping date on the front cover. None of these count towards the 9.8 grade, mostly. I don't remember offhand if a 9.9 can have a printing flaw, but I don't think so. I like the scale, but 9.9's and 10's are a bit ridiculous in practice. I am not adept enough to tell the difference between a 9.9 and a 10.0. But I think I could tell the difference between a 9.8 and something higher. Anyway, 9.9's are perhaps 1/100th as rare as 9.8's. Which goes too far, IMO, but it is what it is. I don't even know the numbers on 10's. @etapi65 is absolutely right. I recently had a shipment with the other guys for 75 comics, divided into three submissions. One of those three had an astonishing four 9.9s out of 25 comics. (The rest were 9.8.) But three of the four were independents: Dead End Kids #1 and two copies of The Dark Age #1. The other was a Batman, but DC is using really high-quality stock these days. Out of all my submissions I'd only ever gotten one 9.9 before (also an independent), and never a 10.0, so this was pretty lucky. Well ... except for the Batman Damned. I got a few 9.9's on that one. But that was super high-quality printing. The 9.9 grade is 60 times more common on Damned than on regular comics: something like 2/3's of the number of 9.8. And another 1/3 the number of 9.8's are Gem Mint. That is incredibly high, as compared to other comics. |
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| @Tedsaid All great info. Did you send those Batman Damned off right away. Can I assume you didn't read any of them? I guess what has me curious at this point is could a book that's been read still get a 10 or 9.9? |
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Quote:Originally Posted by theCapraAegagrusWhy is it frightening? Like I said, it completely depends on the nature of the defect(s) the book has. If it's got things going on that don't break color and they can be pressed out it's 100% plausible that the potential exists to hit 9.9 or 10. Quote: Originally Posted by JabberwookieYou can test it if you like. I, personally, don't have time to look through however many comics it would take to find candidates for it. It's not as simple as finding something that's going to be 9.8 and pressing it. Even the tiniest wear at the top or bottom of the spine will disqualify it. You'd have to have a book that has absolutely zero color break and then hope that the non-color breaking issue(s) press out all the way. Again, it's something that's possible but the odds aren't in your favor. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Jabberwookie Of course it’s possible. Just like “uncirculated” coins don’t mean never used, any comic has a chance at the top grade if handled properly from start to grading. Read your books carefully; store them properly; they can get superhi grade without clean and press. |
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| Personally I think 9.9 should be omitted from the grading equation. 9.8 to 10 is perfectly acceptable. 9.9 is too damn ANAL. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Jabberwookie I did not read any of them. Well ... I read one. Even sent it in. Have no idea which one though. I think it could, if you read it carefully, wash your hands first or wear gloves. Don't see why not. Maybe don't open it all the way? Remember, some 9.9's and even 10.0's have signatures on them, and still got the grade. Also, graders look at every page ... that's three people reading the comic, at least. They are just perfectly printed, with no bindery tears on the corners or color breaks on the spine; no scratches on a glossy cover, and the colors pop, and don't have any printing defects or color misalignment. The corners haven't even been blunted a little bit. And the staples are even. Quote: Originally Posted by Pre_Coder I think they have the 9.9 so they can have a comic with something noticeable to complain about, but it wouldn't be fair to make it a 9.8 along with all the other dregs that low. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by theCapraAegagrus I enjoy looking at a 9.6 or 9.8 that is 40 or 50 years old. It has a story behind how it managed to survive all those years relatively unblemished. It has intrigue value. But a recently printed Gem Mint...for me there is just no intrigue, no backstory to contemplate. |
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| When I grabbed my chair earlier I knew where this was going, because many many of the modern books being printed are quite thin and when you buy them, they have those obvious roller marks that keep it from scoring higher...another set of books this is often noticeable and pressable in is Edge of the spiderverse, with the high flying issue 2.... Also see those marks rather consistently on copies of Female furies 1 in particular. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Darkseid_of_town This is a good point. We've mostly focused on modern books for being in the above 9.8 range, and ignored the older ones. But for that matter, has anyone seen a copper, Bronze or silver age 9.9 or 10? My guess is that the newer books have the better stock to keep them in near min longer, but present some issues with regards to being "perfect." Does that sound right or am I off on this? |
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