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I'll probably wake up constipated. 19.86K	19.86K Pre_Coder private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 4
	Personally I think 9.9 should be omitted from the grading equation. 9.8 to 10 is perfectly acceptable. 9.9 is too damn ANAL.
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All great info.

Did you send those Batman Damned off right away. Can I assume you didn't read any of them?

I guess what has me curious at this point is could a book that's been read still get a 10 or 9.9?

I did not read any of them. Well ... I read one. Even sent it in. Have no idea which one though.

I think it could, if you read it carefully, wash your hands first or wear gloves. Don't see why not. Maybe don't open it all the way? Remember, some 9.9's and even 10.0's have signatures on them, and still got the grade. Also, graders look at every page ... that's three people reading the comic, at least. They are just perfectly printed, with no bindery tears on the corners or color breaks on the spine; no scratches on a glossy cover, and the colors pop, and don't have any printing defects or color misalignment. The corners haven't even been blunted a little bit. And the staples are even.

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Personally I think 9.9 should be omitted from the grading equation. 9.8 to 10 is perfectly acceptable.

I think they have the 9.9 so they can have a comic with something noticeable to complain about, but it wouldn't be fair to make it a 9.8 along with all the other dregs that low.

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	Quote: Originally Posted by theCapraAegagrus If you want to closely observe a perfect book, though, Gem Mints are certainly a treat. I enjoy looking at a 9.6 or 9.8 that is 40 or 50 years old. It has a story behind how it managed to survive all those years relatively unblemished. It has intrigue value. But a recently printed Gem Mint...for me there is just no intrigue, no backstory to contemplate.
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	When I grabbed my chair earlier I knew where this was going, because many many of the modern books being printed are quite thin and when you buy them, they have those obvious roller marks that keep it from scoring higher...another set of books this is often noticeable and pressable in is Edge of the spiderverse, with the high flying issue 2.... Also see those marks rather consistently on copies of Female furies 1 in particular.
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	Quote: Originally Posted by Darkseid_of_town When I grabbed my chair earlier I knew where this was going, because many many of the modern books being printed are quite thin and when you buy them, they have those obvious roller marks that keep it from scoring higher...another set of books this is often noticeable and pressable in is Edge of the spiderverse, with the high flying issue 2.... Also see those marks rather consistently on copies of Female furies 1 in particular. This is a good point. We've mostly focused on modern books for being in the above 9.8 range, and ignored the older ones. But for that matter, has anyone seen a copper, Bronze or silver age 9.9 or 10? My guess is that the newer books have the better stock to keep them in near min longer, but present some issues with regards to being "perfect." Does that sound right or am I off on this?
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	Modern books now are crap. The paperstock, the quality, the actual way they print comics in the least expensive way possible (to squeeze out the most profit from a $6 book you read in 5 minutes or less). It's actually more challenging to get a 9.8 on the majority of books printed today. (Especially if there is an "all black" or "all dark" border cover on front or back)
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Collector 1.3K	1.3K cyrano0521 private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	There are some SA 9.9 or 10.0s, but extremely rare, and even a few GA 9.8 or 9.9s. A 10.0 is absolutely perfect & a 9.9 has 1 tiny, tiny flaw. There is a reason the grade exists. Roller marks and printing ripples can be pressed out, and if no ink smears, can get 9.9 or 10, after pressing. And don’t forget, it’s the whole book that gets graded. Outside might look perfect, but if any of these things exist inside the book, those are still deductions.
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I'm a #2. 11.51K	11.51K BigRedOne1944 private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 5
	9.9 and 10 are fake grades design to create artificial rarity. There are literally mountains of 9.9 & 10 books residing in 9.8 slabs. On the flip side, ALL 9's & 10's are 9.8's on any other given day. The subjectivity is extremely high within these grades
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I hear their hourly rate is outrageous! 17.82K	17.82K sportshort private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 3
	Quote: Originally Posted by BigRedOne1944 9.9 and to a bigger extent 10.0, are unicorn grades made up by the grading companies to entice people to submit books chasing them. It creates a "Lottery" effect. CGC and CBCS, and ANY TPGers for that matter have a vested interest in making sure those grades are kept low to ensure the "Lottery" effect stays strong and continues to entice submissions chasing these unrealistic grades. I also think that more often than not, these grades are reserved for special clientele. This
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	conspiracy theory!!! lol!!
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	Quote: Originally Posted by GAC conspiracy theory!!! lol!! And This!
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Collector 1.3K	1.3K cyrano0521 private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 5
	Quote: Originally Posted by BigRedOne1944 9.9 and 10 are fake grades design to create artificial rarity. There are literally mountains of 9.9 & 10 books residing in 9.8 slabs. On the flip side, ALL 9's & 10's are 9.8's on any other given day. The subjectivity is extremely high within these grades You are either very jaded or don’t know grading. The absolute ONLY subjectivity at the top is if people miss things wrong with a book. Super-high grades are absolutely defined and do exist; just EXTREMELY rare to find a book without some sort of printing issue. Since i do not work for any of the TPG cos, i do not give anything higher than 9.4. I cannot guarantee what slab might be nor can i guarantee i did not miss something small.
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I'm a #2. 11.51K	11.51K BigRedOne1944 private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 3
	Quote: Originally Posted by cyrano0521 Quote: Originally Posted by BigRedOne1944 9.9 and 10 are fake grades design to create artificial rarity. There are literally mountains of 9.9 & 10 books residing in 9.8 slabs. On the flip side, ALL 9's & 10's are 9.8's on any other given day. The subjectivity is extremely high within these grades You are either very jaded or don’t know grading. The absolute ONLY subjectivity at the top is if people miss things wrong with a book. Super-high grades are absolutely defined and do exist; just EXTREMELY rare to find a book without some sort of printing issue. Since i do not work for any of the TPG cos, i do not give anything higher than 9.4. I cannot guarantee what slab might be nor can i guarantee i did not miss something small. Im very versed in the TPGing game and well aware of how it is played.
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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this. 75.27K	75.27K GAC private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	Quote: Originally Posted by cyrano0521 Official terms 10.0 Mint 9.9 Mint- 9.8 NM/M 9.6 NM+ 9.4 NM 9.2 NM- 9.0 VF/NM 8.5 VF+ 8.0 VF 7.5 VF- 7.0 F/VF 6.5 Fn+ 6.0 Fn 5.5 Fn- 5.0 VG/F 4.5 VG+ 4.0 VG 3.5 VG- 3.0 G/VG 2.5 Gd+ 2.0 Gd 1.8 Gd- 1.5 Fr/G 1.0 Fr 0.8 Pr/Fr 0.5 Pr 0.3 or NG Coverless or further incomplete; usually just to verify book Pg or NG for single page/folio to verify source Very cool...I've never seen a 0.8 tho.
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	Quote: Originally Posted by GAC Quote: Originally Posted by cyrano0521 1.0 Fr 0.8 Pr/Fr 0.5 Pr 0.3 or NG Coverless or further incomplete; usually just to verify book Pg or NG for single page/folio to verify source Very cool...I've never seen a 0.8 tho. Just take a 1.0, tear a small piece off the cover, and send it in again. Keep tearing until you get a 0.8.
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Collector 1.3K	1.3K cyrano0521 private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	I’ve only heard of 0.8; never seen one.
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	Quote: Originally Posted by Tedsaid Just take a 1.0, tear a small piece off the cover, and send it in again. Keep tearing until you get a 0.8. Brilliant! But your plan relies on grader consistency. I suggest you just crack a 1.5 and send it to MCS. Then you will own a .8.
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To answer your question, no, this is not where the comics go to die. 6.04K	6.04K MutantMania private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	Quote: Originally Posted by EbaySeller Quote: Originally Posted by Tedsaid Just take a 1.0, tear a small piece off the cover, and send it in again. Keep tearing until you get a 0.8. Brilliant! But your plan relies on grader consistency. I suggest you just crack a 1.5 and send it to MCS. Then you will own a .8. Lol...to funny but true
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	Quote: Originally Posted by BigRedOne1944 9.9 and 10 are fake grades design to create artificial rarity. There are literally mountains of 9.9 & 10 books residing in 9.8 slabs. On the flip side, ALL 9's & 10's are 9.8's on any other given day. The subjectivity is extremely high within these grades By jove , I think you've done it!!!! And that's another fine mess you've gotten us into Stanley
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	I sent in a ASM #28 it was restored is there any way of taking a hit on a restored book and how hard is the hit? Think the top left corner was restored with blue painters tape... let me know what i got to do as well please want to try and get out of restored grade if i can?
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Collector 2.24K	2.24K TimBildhauser private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	Quote: Originally Posted by Duece411 I sent in a ASM #28 it was restored is there any way of taking a hit on a restored book and how hard is the hit? Think the top left corner was restored with blue painters tape... let me know what i got to do as well please want to try and get out of restored grade if i can? There had to be something else going on with the book. Tape is simply a defect and not considered to be restoration.
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	Tim did you have the chance to look at it? Message me if you can?
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	Anyone know what "fbnc" means in grading notes? As in many light stains fbnc. Thanks.
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	Quote: Originally Posted by kaptainmyke Quote: Originally Posted by theCapraAegagrus Quote: Originally Posted by TimBildhauser Quote: Originally Posted by theCapraAegagrus Quick note: You can't press a comic into 9.9/10 grade. Either it is perfect off the presses - or it ain't. That's not necessarily true, it completely depends on the nature of the defect(s) the book has. If they're non-color breaking it would be possible. This reply is frightening. Why? It's true. You want to tell me those were 9.9 when I first got them? This is 2 of many...
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	Quote: Originally Posted by BigRedOne1944 Quote: Originally Posted by cyrano0521 Quote: Originally Posted by BigRedOne1944 9.9 and 10 are fake grades design to create artificial rarity. There are literally mountains of 9.9 & 10 books residing in 9.8 slabs. On the flip side, ALL 9's & 10's are 9.8's on any other given day. The subjectivity is extremely high within these grades You are either very jaded or don’t know grading. The absolute ONLY subjectivity at the top is if people miss things wrong with a book. Super-high grades are absolutely defined and do exist; just EXTREMELY rare to find a book without some sort of printing issue. Since i do not work for any of the TPG cos, i do not give anything higher than 9.4. I cannot guarantee what slab might be nor can i guarantee i did not miss something small. Im very versed in the TPGing game and well aware of how it is played. Not from where I am sitting and reading your posts on this topic.
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Thank you sir. May I have another? 25.57K	25.57K Siggy private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 2
	Quote: Originally Posted by Pre_Coder Personally I think 9.9 should be omitted from the grading equation. 9.8 to 10 is perfectly acceptable. 9.9 is too damn ANAL. Yeah, but if you have one it doesn't hurt as much
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Thank you sir. May I have another? 25.57K	25.57K Siggy private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	Quote: Originally Posted by EbaySeller Just take a 1.0, tear a small piece off the cover, and send it in again. Keep tearing until you get a 0.8. But if after the 2nd attempt a "gift grade" lands a 1.5 or even 1.8, you have to start over and risk a .5 on attempt #3
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If I could, I would. I swear. 54.54K	54.54K DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 2
	Quote: Originally Posted by sborock Quote: Originally Posted by BigRedOne1944 Quote: Originally Posted by cyrano0521 Quote: Originally Posted by BigRedOne1944 9.9 and 10 are fake grades design to create artificial rarity. There are literally mountains of 9.9 & 10 books residing in 9.8 slabs. On the flip side, ALL 9's & 10's are 9.8's on any other given day. The subjectivity is extremely high within these grades You are either very jaded or don’t know grading. The absolute ONLY subjectivity at the top is if people miss things wrong with a book. Super-high grades are absolutely defined and do exist; just EXTREMELY rare to find a book without some sort of printing issue. Since i do not work for any of the TPG cos, i do not give anything higher than 9.4. I cannot guarantee what slab might be nor can i guarantee i did not miss something small. Im very versed in the TPGing game and well aware of how it is played. Not from where I am sitting and reading your posts on this topic.
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