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I could be wrong but maybe if the guy who created them had a statement on them then the value slide wouldn't have happened. I doubt it though
I mean the series creator did say a little bit about it but his word didn’t exactly settle anything as far as printings or print runs as they were likely throwaway promotional/advertisement items without all the considerations that would go with producing a comic book
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The Good Morty book. I just looked up eBay's sales on the book. It averages 30.00 to 50.00. Man, that little book took a tumble. Reminds me of Ren and Stimpy and the fall that book took.


Totally forgot about that.
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It seems to me that there is a very different life-cycle for characters that start in comics and then move to other mediums vs those that start in other mediums and move to comic books (adaptations). At least in modern times. Star Wars, Morty, Simpsons, Transformers, etc...The comic adaptations don't seem to hold their value that well on their own. Seems that long-term comic values are not reliable for these properties (with rare exceptions like Star Wars 1). Maybe someone can come up with some examples where this is not the case? Other than the recalled Alf book, I'm not thinking of anything after the Silver Age.
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Lady Death
Shi

Double Take Comics- Not really ever hot , but they thought they were going to be Oct 2014- Nov 2016

THIS GUY -arguably one of the most famous players in the world at one time , Had everything and was hero worshiped by kids every where. Boy , did he let them down

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Maybe someone can come up with some examples where this is not the case? Other than the recalled Alf book, I'm not thinking of anything after the Silver Age.

Wasn't Harley Quinn in the cartoon first? Maybe that's the exception that proves the rule. Or maybe cartoons are different than live-action, being closer to a comic book already?
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Star trek. Lone ranger maybe
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I could be wrong but maybe if the guy who created them had a statement on them then the value slide wouldn't have happened. I doubt it though
I mean the series creator did say a little bit about it but his word didn’t exactly settle anything as far as printings or print runs as they were likely throwaway promotional/advertisement items without all the considerations that would go with producing a comic book


If it wasn't clarified then the world will never know the truth around what was first, and what if anything was counterfeit. Too bad that no one had the foresight to show up at one of Justin Roiland/Dan Harmon signings with a cell phone and all the different copies of the book. They could have captured their answers about them.
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Maybe someone can come up with some examples where this is not the case? Other than the recalled Alf book, I'm not thinking of anything after the Silver Age.

Wasn't Harley Quinn in the cartoon first? Maybe that's the exception that proves the rule. Or maybe cartoons are different than live-action, being closer to a comic book already?


Yes, she has an odd history. She was created for Batman the Animated Series, then showed up in Comic form later, but that was outside of canon, and eventually made it to the mainstream.

My understanding is X-23 also took a similar route.

I can't think of any other examples, and I've got a ton of worthless 80s comics. Thundercats, M.A.S.K, V, etc... none of them have really taken off.

But, to be fair BTAS was a one of kind thing. I doubt we'll see any more like it for awhile.
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Maybe someone can come up with some examples where this is not the case? Other than the recalled Alf book, I'm not thinking of anything after the Silver Age.

Wasn't Harley Quinn in the cartoon first? Maybe that's the exception that proves the rule. Or maybe cartoons are different than live-action, being closer to a comic book already?

Firestar is another one. She first appeared in the Spider-Man and his Amazing Friends cartoon before transitioning into the Marvel universe. Of course, her popularity didn't match that of Harley Quinn, but she was popular nonetheless. Not so much now I guess, so I suppose we are back on topic.
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Maybe someone can come up with some examples where this is not the case? Other than the recalled Alf book, I'm not thinking of anything after the Silver Age.

Wasn't Harley Quinn in the cartoon first? Maybe that's the exception that proves the rule. Or maybe cartoons are different than live-action, being closer to a comic book already?

Firestar is another one. She first appeared in the Spider-Man and his Amazing Friends cartoon before transitioning into the Marvel universe. Of course, her popularity didn't match that of Harley Quinn, but she was popular nonetheless. Not so much now I guess, so I suppose we are back on topic.


Ah, good catch. I knew I was missing someone.

She had two first appearances in the comics. The first being that Spider-Man and his Amazing Friends comic, and then later in X-Men or New Mutants (I forget which.)

Why she never really took off, I won't understand. I think dumping her on the New Warriors and then the Avengers did her no favors. She should have been an X-Men, but never really stuck.
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Did Crush ever take off or ever make a dent in the comic world?
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Maybe someone can come up with some examples where this is not the case? Other than the recalled Alf book, I'm not thinking of anything after the Silver Age.

Wasn't Harley Quinn in the cartoon first? Maybe that's the exception that proves the rule. Or maybe cartoons are different than live-action, being closer to a comic book already?

Firestar is another one. She first appeared in the Spider-Man and his Amazing Friends cartoon before transitioning into the Marvel universe. Of course, her popularity didn't match that of Harley Quinn, but she was popular nonetheless. Not so much now I guess, so I suppose we are back on topic.


Ah, good catch. I knew I was missing someone.

She had two first appearances in the comics. The first being that Spider-Man and his Amazing Friends comic, and then later in X-Men or New Mutants (I forget which.)

Why she never really took off, I won't understand. I think dumping her on the New Warriors and then the Avengers did her no favors. She should have been an X-Men, but never really stuck.

Uncanny X-Men 193, but even that is overshadowed by the first appearance of Warpath.
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Did Crush ever take off or ever make a dent in the comic world?


Not yet. Matter of time though. Although it’s hard to believe her first will be more sought after than lobo’s first...it’s possible she has a bigger following than her dad with today’s kids, I suppose.

The 1:25 variant of her first (full) appearance has held value at about $40 raw.
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@Jabberwookie Don't forget these characters:




Wonder Dog is loosely based upon Rex the Wonder Dog who first appeared in the Comics but Wendy Harris and Marvin White started in the cartoons.




Aside from the Super Friends Comic Book Series, Wendy and Marvin don't show up in the DC Universe until 2006.





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What happened to Peter Panzerfaust? There's a 9.6 copy of #9 in this week'd MCS auction and based on the sales data, a 9.8 sold for $127 in April of 2013, and the last 9.8 sold for $16 in March 2019.
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The whole Jennika madness from a few months ago
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I remember a buddy and I driving all over the city looking for every comic with Keith Giffen art. Really hot at the time. But that was 38 years ago. Still have 20 copies of Omega Men # 1 if anybody is interested. Cheap.
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What happened to Peter Panzerfaust? There's a 9.6 copy of #9 in this week'd MCS auction and based on the sales data, a 9.8 sold for $127 in April of 2013, and the last 9.8 sold for $16 in March 2019.


yeahhhhh Panzerfaust...that was a flash in the "pan"
I thought there was a rumor of TV or movie way back years and years ago and then it all just fizzled!
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What happened to Peter Panzerfaust? There's a 9.6 copy of #9 in this week'd MCS auction and based on the sales data, a 9.8 sold for $127 in April of 2013, and the last 9.8 sold for $16 in March 2019.


That one had legs for a while.

Nowhere Men blew up within a couple months.
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Maybe someone can come up with some examples where this is not the case? Other than the recalled Alf book, I'm not thinking of anything after the Silver Age.

Wasn't Harley Quinn in the cartoon first? Maybe that's the exception that proves the rule. Or maybe cartoons are different than live-action, being closer to a comic book already?


Yes, she has an odd history. She was created for Batman the Animated Series, then showed up in Comic form later, but that was outside of canon, and eventually made it to the mainstream.

My understanding is X-23 also took a similar route.

I can't think of any other examples, and I've got a ton of worthless 80s comics. Thundercats, M.A.S.K, V, etc... none of them have really taken off.

But, to be fair BTAS was a one of kind thing. I doubt we'll see any more like it for awhile.
You can take Harlequin back to the sixties as the precursor of the character, Jokers Daughter, and a card carrying member of the original teen titans series...which then evolved into the more modern incarnation as a love interest and so forth
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Harley Quinn, X-23, Firestar all started as part of comic franchises, even though they first appeared in cartoons. In my original post I was contemplating the difference between adaptations (Transformer, Thundercats, etc) and Comic industry origins (TMNT, Deadpool, Teen Titatns, etc). It just seems the adaptations have a more consistent pattern of going from "hot to not". Just an un-researched observation.
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I remember a buddy and I driving all over the city looking for every comic with Keith Giffen art. Really hot at the time. But that was 38 years ago. Still have 20 copies of Omega Men # 1 if anybody is interested. Cheap.


I too remember pursuing work purely based on the hot artist or writer. John Byrne, Frank Miller, Alan Moore, Giffen, etc. Seems that stuff also reaches a price ceiling pretty quickly unless you go back past the 80's (I noticed the other day that MCS is generally sold out of early Steranko covers but has plenty of copies of the surrounding issues).
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Wasn't Harley Quinn in the cartoon first? Maybe that's the exception that proves the rule. Or maybe cartoons are different than live-action, being closer to a comic book already?

Yes, she has an odd history. She was created for Batman the Animated Series, then showed up in Comic form later, but that was outside of canon, and eventually made it to the mainstream.

You can take Harlequin back to the sixties as the precursor of the character, Jokers Daughter, and a card carrying member of the original teen titans series...which then evolved into the more modern incarnation as a love interest and so forth

Ha! Funny about that one - I had some of those old Teen Titans from the 70's with Harlequin / Joker's Daughter. So, YEARS later, when I was out of comics and just happened to see, in a bookstore one day, that Alex Ross Harley Quinn cover, I was pretty shocked. "Damn!" I thought. "I know Joker is evil and all, but that's pretty fricking risque, posing with his own daughter like that."


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I remember a buddy and I driving all over the city looking for every comic with Keith Giffen art. Really hot at the time. But that was 38 years ago. Still have 20 copies of Omega Men # 1 if anybody is interested. Cheap.

I too remember pursuing work purely based on the hot artist or writer. John Byrne, Frank Miller, Alan Moore, Giffen, etc. Seems that stuff also reaches a price ceiling pretty quickly unless you go back past the 80's (I noticed the other day that MCS is generally sold out of early Steranko covers but has plenty of copies of the surrounding issues).

Heh ... you remember back when Amazing Spider-Man #298 was the collectible one, and NOT #300? That, because it was the first McFarlane issue? I was so shocked, just a few years ago, when I found out #300 is a ~$1000 book. Soooooo many copies of that issue were sold. It was HUGE. And cheap.
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I could be wrong but maybe if the guy who created them had a statement on them then the value slide wouldn't have happened. I doubt it though
I mean the series creator did say a little bit about it but his word didn’t exactly settle anything as far as printings or print runs as they were likely throwaway promotional/advertisement items without all the considerations that would go with producing a comic book


If it wasn't clarified then the world will never know the truth around what was first, and what if anything was counterfeit. Too bad that no one had the foresight to show up at one of Justin Roiland/Dan Harmon signings with a cell phone and all the different copies of the book. They could have captured their answers about them.
I think it was Justin Roiland that had made a comment on it. The point was that even as the series creator he’s not privy to the variations, print runs, and number of printings of what was basically a throw-away insert for the dvd
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Umbrella Academy - looks like this has really cooled - maybe a tick up again when new season comes out??
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