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I would like to get some opinions on this subject. Are Canadian Price variants really that scarce or even a collectible? The reason I'm asking is I have a copy of Superman Annual #11 (pre-Crisis) with the Canadian Price cover and it is a newsstand edition as well. Apparently, there is only one CGC 9.8 copy in their census and a seller on eBay is asking for over $7k for it with some data explaining why these copies are so scarce, in high grade anyway. My copy wouldn't grade out that high but with pressing it should be a 9.0 at least. I'm curious what you folks think about this subject, perhaps Mr. Borock could weigh in with his opinion. I appreciate the help. Thanks! |
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| Would this be considered bronze age as well? | ||
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| For starters, all Canadian Price Variants are newsstand editions only. And there is definitely a market for them...the higher the condition the better. Then it is based on scarcity, as some titles are easier to find than others. The copy on Ebay for over $7k will never sell at that price (or I should say, it shouldn't as that is waaay too high). When I check out the past sales, there was a copy that sold in August for around $50 in high grade (but unslabbed). Still a nice price, though. |
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| Yes, Canadian Price Variants are worth more than the direct and Newsstand versions due to their scarcity. The higher the grade the higher the price. Key books could sell between 3-10 times that of a direct edition in 9.8. I think these are the way to invest going forward due to them being first prints as well. New 2020 Canadian Price Guide is out yesterday: www.cpvpriceguide.com |
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| @manfred_spain, I agree, that's way too much for that book, he is playing the "one of a kind" angle for that particular book. | ||
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| I just bought 17 Canadian price variants from a guy liquidating his collection. Gi combat, sgt rock, dc comics presents, swamp thing annual 2. Hoping he will find the one Howard the Duck issue...they all looked great in pics; hoping they are. Very hard to find (some titles, some issues within some titles). If you decide to sell the S’man Annual, i would be interested. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by cyrano0521 Totally right about hard to find, and some more than others. I need a Top Dog #3 to finish my set. |
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It’s interesting to me to read the opinions put forth so far on this thread. My experience is pretty much the opposite of what has been expressed. Of course, my viewpoint is probably a little different since I live in a border state; in fact, if I hopped in the car right now I could easily be in Canada within the hour. For me, Canadian variants are fairly common. I have several in my collection and I even remember passing on some over the years at cons because the cover price differential doesn’t mesh with my memories of the comic. In Canada I submit that they, in fact, are quite common. Also, I am not sure where the supposition comes from that Canadian variants are only available in newsstand copies. This is simply not true. Certainly there were comic shops in Canada in the 80s and I have seen Canadian cover price direct sales versions. As to the question of whether or not Canadian copies are worth more, my opinion is not really. Certainly less of them exist than US copies since the population of Canada is significantly smaller than the population of the US. I would recommend paying a premium only if the book is worth more to you personally, and not to expect to receive a huge premium when the time comes to sell. You may be disappointed, or at the very least you might be waiting a while until you find a buyer that agrees with you. Just my two cents . |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Maritimer Definitely copper age. The Bronze Age ended around the end of the 1970s. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by michaelekrupp I think you actually hit the nail on the head as to why these are worth more to most US collectors... access. We don't have the easy access that you have to the market, and instead we have to rely on eBay, major Canadian dealers, or the occasional convention find to locate the books. In both cases, those create the demand and set the prices. And regarding Direct versus Newsstand, the Direct editions I've ever seen are the same in both Canada and America (e.g. have both prices on the cover) thus those are not variants. The newsstand editions have the higher Canadian price only, which makes them technical different than their US counterparts. |
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| Although the direct sales Canadian editions do have both prices on the cover, they are not identical to US versions, as the Canadian price is larger and prominent, while the US price is smaller and less prominent, so there is a difference. I am not really a variant guy, so I can’t say what makes it a variant or not, but you can definitely tell the difference between the two. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by michaelekrupp That's great intel that I hadn't heard or noticed before. Do you happen to have a sample you could post? I'll look for some myself. |
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| While it is probable that I do have one, I have no idea as far as which specific issue it would be, so it may take some serious digging to locate one. They are identical to US versions except for the fact that the Canadian prices are larger and on top and the US price is smaller and underneath the Canadian price. If I come across one I will definitely post it here for you. | ||
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| Just to follow up on this: I have spent quite a while digging through the boxes and all the Canadian copies I have turned up are newsstand editions. Is it possible that my decades old recollections could be wrong on this? Is there a Canadian forum member who was active in the hobby in the 1980s who can clarify? | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by michaelekrupp Certainly not conclusive, but I did a bunch of eBay surfing to try to find anything and didn't. I suspect they are newsstand only, but it would be good to get a knowledgeable Canuck to weigh in. |
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| My only Canadian copies are newsstand as well. GI Joe #26 and #34. I've never seen a direct where the Canadian price was more prominent. If so, could it be a reprint in one of those multipacks? Or a limited distribution price test? | ||
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Here’s an example of the Canadian Edition of X-Men #206. It has a 95 cent price versus the US Edition which had a 75 cent price. |
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Just for kicks, here’s a couple of Canadian copies I turned up during my earlier search, although both are newsstand editions: The G.I. Joe “silent issue” is pretty cool.  |
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| Actual Canadian Price variants ARE newsstand editions only; direct editions had more than one price printed on them. Can google many, many examples | ||
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| Thanks to all for responding. There is data available speculating the high grade scarcity of the Canadian Price Variants. As @michaelekrupp pointed out, there were fewer copies available printed for Canadian stores and since they were sold on newsstands, chances are fewer still survived in high grade. I'm debating if it's worth pressing and slabbing my copy of Superman Annual #11 since it falls in that category of being a fairly high grade. It's a significant Alan Moore Superman story with nice Dave Gibbons art and came out just before the first Crisis and the John Byrne reboot. I'll have to give it some more thought I guess. | ||
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| Having bought from newstands in the 80's (Northern Ontario) the majority of my collection were CPV. At one time close to 4000 books and now about 400. The common CPV's are not that hard to find up here. There are still deals to be found in the dollar bins. Dealers are putting a premium on pretty much any CPV though, even the low grade issues. I sold a BLIP #1 that would be a 1.0 for sure for over $20. Craziness. I don't think the frenzy is going to stop any time soon. Harvey, Charlton and Warren also put out CPV's that have yet to be accounted. | ||
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I'm currently going through my collection and am finding the occasional CPV cover. I came across this beauty today, probably not worth much and not that it matters greatly, this has very few flaws, the worst being a small finger smudge on the top right side of the cover. The yellow cover really stands out.  |
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Got these. One day I'll go through looking for any more.  |
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Quote:Originally Posted by michaelekruppIt's not a supposition, Canadian Price Variants are all newsstand copies. Comic shops in Canada that ordered for the direct market received the same multi-price copies that were distributed in the States (i.e. US, CAD & UK prices listed on the cover). |
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Latest CPV addition... |
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| @Maritimer: if you ever decide to sell that Action comic...i am here with open arms. 🥰 | ||
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| @cyrano0521, I'm not much of a seller but I'll keep you in mind! | ||
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| I have a pretty decent copy of Marvel Preview #4, the first appearance of Star-Lord, at least an 8.0 maybe even better. I'll take some pictures and post them here to get some opinions on grade. That is a book I would be interested in moving some time. | ||
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| Just picked up a stack of about 60 CPVs in mid-grade. Still sorting through, but did get a THOR 338. I will be posting some to eBay over the holidays. I do have a small bunch I am sending to grade over the holidays, does anyone know of the turnover time from the Oakville location? | ||
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| From other thread, it appears to be weeks and weeks. Fast pass only applies to the time in Texas. Also...i need to find a nice copy of Crisis 7 (death of supergirl); any chance you got one? |
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