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What is your best kept secret spec book or idea...Bronze silver, or gold?10374

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that's very true and one of the reasons I detest price guides that use predictive methods. …..anyone remember Comics Values Monthly? they would pump the new hot books up so hard and fast you had to know they were sitting on a carton of copies. Seen a lot of books get pushed hard by unfounded rumors...or worse, take the thing going on with the new mutants movie...ugh

Ha! I remember that thing. In the comic store I worked for we called it Comics Inflated Monthly. The owner would use Overstreet to buy comics and CVM to sell them.
we called it comics Vascular monthly...the LCS here did the same thing, buying by Overstreet, selling by CVM.....another local shop now out of business would use an old overstreet wrapped inside a new cover...to purchase, then go by CVM to sell.Ugh
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Constantine already had a movie. I liked it fine but I don't think many others did.


I thought the thread was about undervalued comics. If it is about comic values and moivies then I didn't understand. Either way, Swamp Thing 37 is undervalued.
The thread is about comics you feel are good specs....no matter why, and regardless what anyone else thinks or says. Its all opinions and different peoples ideas, and everyone is free to say what they think...share what you think and no worries.
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Pence copies are a fantastic long-term play. I've only got a few, but they are decent. A few ASM in the 100's. A silver or bronze (don't remember) Fantastic Four. My best one is Ms Marvel #1 9.6. I need to get more active on buying these, but there aren't any I'm particularly looking for. I just look for good deals that others have overlooked, or (foolishly) downplayed because they are pence.

I couldn't believe it when the Whitman variants started commanding a premium. We used to HATE those things. And of course the price variants are through the roof, especially Star Wars #1. So pence will be the next big thing, especially high grade keys. The problem is there are just so damn MANY of them. Not any individual issue ... those will always be rare, because pence are rare. But in total, there are tons. (Or should I say tonnes?)

Still .. at some point there will be a sea change, when enough folks realize they are not second prints, and they are rare, and hard to get in high grade. It's starting to happen with some keys, I think, and will continue across most pence copies, especially silver and bronze.

I have one Whitman book. Batman #307 I believe. The shop down the street from me has a bunch of DC Whitman books. Grade range varies, and he definitely commands a premium for some. I guess some Whitmans are less common than others. Not exactly sure how they work out.

There are a bunch of pence copies on so many titles. It's not like the 30, 35 cent price variants. Still, a low print run, plus the scant amount of surviving higher grade copies can make them a more a in-demand commodity. We're seeing it with Canadian price variants from the BA now, and high grade Australian price variants of keys can command a premium. If I can find them, I buy them.
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ST 110 and DD 1. I agree with someone Strange is going to be big and if Disney does DD right it’s gonna jump a lot


Unforunately, the best material from the DD comics was wasted in the DD and Elektra movies.
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I expect female superheroes (and villains)to continue to take off, as they look so much better in costumes, check out any con for confirmation.
So She Hulk 1 will continue to rise, Enchantress, Red Sonja, Power Girl, Shi, Huntress to name a few possibilities
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ST 110 and DD 1. I agree with someone Strange is going to be big and if Disney does DD right it’s gonna jump a lot


Unforunately, the best material from the DD comics was wasted in the DD and Elektra movies.

Very true but I think with FF and X-men Disney will knock it out of the park
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I had no way of knowing that 9.8 graded copies signed by Adam Hughes weren't what you were looking for. drchaos private msg quote post Address this user
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I expect female superheroes (and villains)to continue to take off, as they look so much better in costumes, check out any con for confirmation.
So She Hulk 1 will continue to rise, Enchantress, Red Sonja, Power Girl, Shi, Huntress to name a few possibilities


One book I always look for is Supergirl # 1 from 1972.
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Johnny: Under my buccan hat.
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Here’s a few I think may have potential

Secret Wars. #2. 2004. 1st Quake/Daisy Johnson. From Agents of Shield Rumored to be joining the MCU

Captain Marvel #17. 2004. 1st Phyla-Vell

Machine Man #2. 1982. 1st Arno Stark Rumored to take Ironmans place but darker.


Soulfire Preview First Book with 1st Malikai A Michael Turner book. Rumored to be in development for a movie. Not many of these out there

Superman 501. 1st Conner Kent a clone of Superman & Lex Luthor. First seen in the
New Titans season 2. This is interesting.
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Atm for me it's marvel bronze 20c picture books in very high grade. These books are now 47 years old. And when I say high grade I mean 9.8s. I've bought a few raws and I'm thinking one or two may reach that with a press. I've never gotten a book pressed and when I see Ironmans in 9.8 fetching 1k plus that's not bad for a run book.

Another book that I've bought 2 copies of is uncanny X-men 94.
For years this book and giant size were worth the same till the giant size broke away from price and rightly so.
And I believe the 94 will never be worth the same as the giant size again.
But when collectors get the giant size there is a chance they'll go for the 94.
And if prices continue to rise and price X-men fans out of the giant size then the 94 is a book they may settle on.
Plus the 94 has 3rd full wolverine and 2nd Colossus and storm ect. And first issue written by Claremont who would go onto writing and making X-men the fan favorite for over 100 issues. I think this book has potential in the long term.
My 2c feel free to discuss 😀
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Some Black Widow Speculation on my part...

I've slowly been rescuing copies of Secret Empire Omega #1 (2 Covers) and Tales of Suspense #101 (17,000 Print run w/ 2 covers) from the dollar bins as first appearance of the Black Widow Clone.

I've also been rescuing Captain America #617/618 from the dollar bins - 1st Wolf Spider

Olivier "The Dutch Giant" Richters was cast in the movie and IMDB lists him as "Muscular Gulag Inmate" which points to Wolf Spider being involved since it's the Gulag...

Super Speculation? Not really...but an easy way to turn $1 into $20+ when the movie drops if they pan out...
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One area that's taking off is overlooked "hidden meaning" covers. Stuff that nobody would think to even look at when flipping through dealer boxes, then one day somebody points it out and it takes off. Here's an example - Tip Topper #17. Look at the trend chart: nothing, nothing, nothing, then boom and you could have 5-10x'd on it. There are lots of these still sleeping out there. Happy to mention a few more of these if anyone's interested.


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One area that's taking off is overlooked "hidden meaning" covers. Stuff that nobody would think to even look at when flipping through dealer boxes, then one day somebody points it out and it takes off. Here's an example - Tip Topper #17. Look at the trend chart: nothing, nothing, nothing, then boom and you could have 5-10x'd on it. There are lots of these still sleeping out there. Happy to mention a few more of these if anyone's interested.



I live for those covers, please continue
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Ok, here's another @doog:

Dogface Dooley #5. Pre-2017 (and again, even now very few people are aware), this could be bought dirt cheap. The key - let's just say the artist had other things on his mind when drawing the sputtering puff of smoke coming out of the flamethrower. Sorry about the low-res pic - I never know optimal sizing and got scolded last time I threw a high-res pic on the forums, as you can tell I'm not on here much.


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great shares Tommy that's the concept I had in mind..things most might miss that are so amazing
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Pictures? We don't need no stinking pictures. brysb private msg quote post Address this user
FF #209 (1st appearance HERBIE!). Why not??

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great shares Tommy that's the concept I had in mind..things most might miss that are so amazing

Thx @Darkseid_of_town... You were pretty clear in your subject line but people didn't seem to be picking up on it - speculation ideas that are not commonly known, any era. FWIW I do try to mention these themes as I see them in my market reports, you might want to sift through those. Granted, most of the themes I bring up, people on these boards are already aware of (Baker cover, MLJs, out-of-context monster covers, etc.) but it's nice to see real data-points. Here's one more "hidden meaning" example while I'm typing. Archie titles are riddled with these, and most of these books for years could be found in dollar bins. Still can, but that window is starting to close.


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FF #209 (1st appearance HERBIE!). Why not??



Absolutely @brysb - the idea being, characters lurking out there that nobody's talking about or speculating on, because there's nothing immediately obvious about the appeal. Apologies of course if you're a huge Herbie fan But the trend chart is dead flat on this book, for way over a decade now. Anyway, one could argue this example is maybe similar to what happened with Incredible Hulk #271 - a lackluster cover with a raccoon thingy that... who could have guessed even after Marvel movie magic was in full swing, they would make into a super-cool part of a super-team with Bradley Cooper doing voice-over??
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FF #209 (1st appearance HERBIE!). Why not??



Absolutely @brysb - the idea being, characters lurking out there that nobody's talking about or speculating on, because there's nothing immediately obvious about the appeal. Apologies of course if you're a huge Herbie fan But the trend chart is dead flat on this book, for way over a decade now. Anyway, one could argue this example is maybe similar to what happened with Incredible Hulk #271 - a lackluster cover with a raccoon thingy that... who could have guessed even after Marvel movie magic was in full swing, they would make into a super-cool part of a super-team with Bradley Cooper doing voice-over??


Agreed. It's funny that you mentioned Rocket Raccoon because I had that in mind when I posted about FF #209...who would have ever thought the 1st appearance of such a throw away character (up until the film) would ever be worth more than $1??
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FF #209 (1st appearance HERBIE!). Why not??


Yep I remember him from the FF cartoons as they didn't include the human torch a character starting fires in a kids cartoon
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@TommyJasmin Great covers. Looks like some of them were done intentionally and others were not and the editor didn't pick up on it. Like that Alf cover and the action comics cover that looks plain wrong.


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ST 110 and DD 1. I agree with someone Strange is going to be big and if Disney does DD right it’s gonna jump a lot


Unforunately, the best material from the DD comics was wasted in the DD and Elektra movies.


it's ok..they can just re do the same material...how many times have we seen uncle ben bite it now??
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The apple sauce and pudding were the best part... Bronte private msg quote post Address this user
@KatKomics

Too many?

Is the one without uncle Ben considered the best?
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FF #209 (1st appearance HERBIE!). Why not??


I thought about bat-mite, he could be just a great character if brought to the big screen

Also I bought X-Men 109,120,121 and alpha flight 1, I think they could do well
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OH MY GOD! That Action 457 Cover is just wrong in so many ways!

Could it possibly take the title from the champ : The Rifleman "Wood" Cover?


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Atm for me it's marvel bronze 20c picture books in very high grade. These books are now 47 years old. And when I say high grade I mean 9.8s. I've bought a few raws and I'm thinking one or two may reach that with a press. I've never gotten a book pressed and when I see Ironmans in 9.8 fetching 1k plus that's not bad for a run book.

Hell yeah! Except for me, it's the DC 20c comics, not the Marvel ones.

I just LOVE super high grade late silver and early bronze, and I've got a whole short box of pristine comics just waiting to be sent in. I've got Batman and Superman, Wonder Woman and World's Finest, Brave and the Bold, Flash, JLA. Plus an assortment of other odds and ends, such as Jimmy Olsen and Lois Lane, Wanted, Kamandi, Tarzan, etc.

I bought a whole bunch of those super packs a couple years ago. I've sent a few in, and got 9.4's to 9.8's, with a couple surprise 9.0 or 9.2. Most are fantastic. Crisp, clean, bone-white pages, and never been read. I love em! Can't wait to get them graded, see what else shakes out.


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MLJs? Is that for the name Archie Comics had before they became Archie Comics? Or does it mean something else?

I don't know if I'm the only one, but I'm totally not getting any innuendo from that Action Comics cover.
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I don't know if I'm the only one, but I'm totally not getting any innuendo from that Action Comics cover.


Well imagine you saw it from about 10 feet away. It would probably catch ones attention enough to at least want to know what the front cover dialogue was.
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If we're looking for more obscure books, here are a few that I've thought could pop but haven't had great success:

Adventure 327: First Timberwolf- DC's very similar precursor to Wolverine. Never well developed.
Superboy 98: First Ultraboy...an interesting character never well developed.
Marvel Team-up 1: First Misty Knight
Marvel Team-up 65: First US Captain Britain, starting to move.
Captain Marvel 34: Apparently nobody cares how CM got the cancer that killed him.
Swamp Thing 2: First Anton Arcane, still not recognized by Overstreet I believe.
TOS 75: First Sharon Carter doesn't seem to impress people much based on the prices.
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Flash 92 - Impulse is a fun character.
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@BigRedOne1944 Nah rifleman still has the crown. Just look at the smirks on their faces just sells it.
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