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Quote:Originally Posted by flanders Sure. I've got a BEAUTIFUL 9.8 with 4-5 spine ticks. You can barely see them, but they are there. |
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| Ahhhhhh.... the beauty and relief of 3rd party services. We pay them money for the service. We pay for shipping back and forth. We wait patiently for our books to arrive. And then we still debate over what constitutes the grade. Then we see mistakes and mis-grades. Then we state "buy the book; not the grade". Then we wonder why we send in books for grading when we're buying the book not the grade. Rinse, repeat, Isn't it a beautiful endless cycle? |
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 I'd like to say I still turned out alright, but that would be a lie.
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| Still new to grading, maybe I'll have more to send in to CBCS next time. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by flanders If grading accuracy is your game. |
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| I wonder if any those spine ticks could show up after encapsulation under the right conditions. Could they be a press gone wrong? | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Drogio No chance in my noob opinion, they break color, so pressing wouldn't have helped in the first place. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Pre_Coder It's a combination of grading accuracy and the fact that I don't want to capitalize from or contribute to a company that has highly inconsistent grading that I wouldn't deem as mistakes but as willful overgrading. |
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| I messaged the seller of the Alf 48 regarding the 9.6 grade. He replied "I hear ya, that's how they've been coming back lately" so at least he's aware that CGC has been overgrading and now I'm aware that I'm not that big of a noob when it comes to grading. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by GAC Meh, looks to me like it could have been either a real nice 9.4 or a not-so-nice 9.6. I guess they went with the later. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by flanders Lol. Nice guy, on a Friday night, responding to someone who has written to tell him his item may have been generously graded by the grading authority. Smart answer though, didn't get defensive and put himself squarely on the side of the tight graders. Makes him seem trustworthy. I'm going to check out his raw listings. |
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| I bought a Marvel Premiere #1 off Ebay a few years ago. It is a CGC graded 9.2, but looking at it, I'd say it's not much better than a 8.5. The main problem is the color, it has a kind of greenish tint to it, compared to the other copies I have. The Ebay seller isn't to blame, he sold it based on what the slab said. I'm not about to crack it open and send it to CBCS, just to get the lower grade! I think I'm kind of stuck with it I guess. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Donnied Fixed that for ya.  |
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Quote:Originally Posted by EbaySeller I have to say I was surprised with his response as well, especially considering that I asked him how much he had to pay CGC to get that grade. I've definitely bid on items he's had for sale but I'm not sure if I've won anything. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by esaravo what's the harm in trying... |
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| @Watcher Just time and money. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by moodswing It may seem silly, but the main value of the registry is bragging rights. I'm slabbing my entire Vampirella (Warren) magazine collection with CGC right now just so that I can be the #3 collection on the registry (I'm currently #4). The registry has made me sell 9.4 copies just to upgrade to 9.6 or 9.8. It's crazy, but it gives me an extra high when collecting. So having a registry makes customers want to grade more books and increases prices paid for even incremental differences in grades. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Drogio It's rare, but yes, I think they could show up after encapsulation, most definitely. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Darkga I've been meaning to for awhile, but I hadn't entered anything in the Registry until now. I just put in my Batman Death in the Family collection. My set is ranked 4th out of 39, with 576 points on four comics ... what do the points mean? I mean, how are they calculated? I clicked on a different place, and it looks like the max points for each comic at 9.8 is given: 160 points for #426, 120 points for #427, 160 for #428, and 120 for #429. Also, you get extra points for Signature Series: 12 each for #427 and #429, and 16 extra for #426 and #428. So mine has 560 points for being all 9.8, and an extra 16 for one being Signature Series. I can see how this would encourage you to improve. If I get the three others signed, I'll be in the lead. So, where do these numbers come from? Does anyone know? |
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| It's a shame you can't just import your comics from your submissions. That would make it so much easier. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Tedsaid They have some internal system, but their points are based off the rarity and value of the book. I didn't start using the registry until I uploaded my Vampi mags, but now it is highly addictive. I credit it with encouraging me to finally complete the 115 issue run and scoring some killer deals on high grade issues. |
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 SpongeBob Comics #1 sells for $991!
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| This has me seriously considering having my ASM 300 CBCS 9.6 regraded at CGC before I sell it. I’ve seen worse 9.8’s in CGC cases. What a world... Then again who am I kidding, I’m not going to sell that beauty, lol. |
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| With the flyaway corners and lifting edges, this books appears to have been poorly pressed. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Zipper Which comic? The one in the video? |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Tedsaid Yes. |
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| I have to say it irritates the hell out of me that PGX is included in any analysis of credible grading companies. | ||
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| Does CGC also grade magazines with the PGX scale??? I have a few I want to send in and would prefer CBCS but no large book slabs  |
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| @.@ Grading is subjective. "Accurate grade" is a pretentiously inaccurate statement. Some people need to take off their glasses and leave their bias at the sign-in screen. Both reputable brands have times of seemingly 'tight' or 'loose' grading. Both companies make mistakes. That will always occur with the human element. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by theCapraAegagrus When you get below mid grade I can see subjectivity coming into play, but 6.0 and above becomes a no-brainer IMO. You may call it a subjective no-brainer if you wish. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Pre_Coder There is no objectivity in any grades above 5.5 (other than Gem Mint). What you've said here makes no sense. Turning the market into a 'CGC vs CBCS' mentality is about as dumb as 'Marvel vs DC'. Healthy competition is only good for the customer. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by theCapraAegagrus Well, that's clearly not true. Grades are, by and large, objective, up and down the scale. Hell, "the scale" exists because the whole industry believes there is objectivity in grading. Sure, there is still a slight subjective part in determining relative weight for various virtues and defects. And sometimes it is unclear what caused a flaw. (I.e., was it a printer flaw - which should "count" less - or something else, post printing?) But this uncertainly - this subjectiveness - is only at the margins. A comic book grading system has emerged and been curated over time, and that system has a tremendous amount of information on comic book virtues, defects, definitions, ranges, categories, and context; such that professional graders are very, very close to each other in their assessment of a particular comic. To say grading has NO objectivity? That is just ignorant and absurd. The two major grading companies - and, actually, everyone who buys and sells comics - have built their business model predicated on the idea that grading can be overwhelmingly objective. Still some slight, tiny amount of subjectivity, sure. But evidence - and the entire comic collecting industry - supports the idea that grading is mostly objective. If grading were not objective, then any grade assigned to any comic by anyone would be meaningless. |
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