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 I showed my wife and she was so happy for me she started to cry.
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  s  so I bought this book a long time ago, I think I remember paying 60ish for it. When I got back into comics in 2017 I submitted my first batch of comics to Cbcs, had Len wein sign it. Came back 7.0 restored, man that was a kick in the gut. Wish Cbcs could do restoration removal. Sent it to cgc, had them remove the restoration (pictured in 3rd photo). Got it back today, hoping for a higher grade but happy it's a blue label but bummed that I lost the witnessed signature, it wasn't recognized as Len wein written on the first page either. Debating to either now send it to Cbcs and get a red verified label, send it back to cgc and have them put on the label that Len wein is written on the first page or just leave it as it is. What would you do |
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| same boat with my hulk 1, I have never slabbed it cause once you do, you cannot see the signature anymore. I could have it verified, but any step taken in that regard leaves it sealed and unviewable....so I fret and try to decide sadly. | ||
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I showed my wife and she was so happy for me she started to cry.
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Batman66 private msg quote post Address this user | |
@Darkseid_of_town  i have a picture of the signature, it's just the recognition of it |
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| Keep the label, put it in a comic skin. That way it’s slabbed, but you can always open it up and read it or admire the signature. | ||
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cyrano0521 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Pink label, of course. Cbcs might still give it a 7.0, since no deduction for interior writing. | ||
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poka private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @Batman66 CGC typically don’t state the name on a blue label. If they felt the written of the name reduced the grade significantly they would give you a green qualified label stating “name written on page 1) If you wish the name written on the label, then CBCS Red (however you may not get the 7.0 anymore. If you don’t wish the name on the label, then leave it |
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 I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers).Splotches is gettin old! |
Nuffsaid111 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| CBCS Red Label - the best | ||
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infinityG private msg quote post Address this user | |
| i would have left it. granted it had restoration, it was very slight and the sig made up for it. i dont think it would have decreased too much in value and you would have still had the yellow label and a higher grade. | ||
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 Beaten by boat oars
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Quote:Originally Posted by infinityGAgree |
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Darkseid_of_town private msg quote post Address this user | |
| umm the first line you wrote....you have had it awhile..but you remember paying sixty-ish for it....and the rest is all gravy and you lived happily ever after ! | ||
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 I've spent years perfecting my brand of assholery.
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DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Well, shit happens. | ||
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 I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this.
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GAC private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Could go either way butI think @Batman66 did the right thing. Remove the very slight resto, get the red label and have a Universal grade designation (even if the grade is slightly lower). Personally, I'd say that's the more desirable book. | ||
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I showed my wife and she was so happy for me she started to cry.
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Batman66 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @infinityG unfortunately there is such a sigma about restoration,( no matter how small)it sells for a fraction of what it's worth, the yellow label and higher grade would not have made up for it. Seen too many examples of it. Seems to me if cbcs or cgc when they receive a book and notice removable restoration, they could notify the customer and ask them if they would want it removed for a price. That would give the company more revenue and happier customers. I know it's probably not possible being so busy and behind all the time and cause more of a delay. | ||
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I showed my wife and she was so happy for me she started to cry.
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Batman66 private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Nuffsaid111i agree, just going through the expense again,having the same book graded 3 different times, ideally would have been if Cbcs did restoration removal, had it verified at the same submission |
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Batman66 private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by pokagreen labels are given when the signature is written on the cover, either way the label usually notes the name written on it |
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I showed my wife and she was so happy for me she started to cry.
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Batman66 private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by DrWatsoni think I my wife might be related to you, blunt and too the point, lol |
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infinityG private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @Batman66 totally know about the restoration stigma, I don't like it myself lol. I don't think its right or wrong, just a matter of preference. I felt that you got it witnessed by Wein and were done with it (even w/ the resto) that to go through the trouble to validate it again is such a pain. It's still cool regardless! m/ |
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 Thank you sir. May I have another?
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| I collect, so I'd crack it and enjoy it knowing without a shadow of a doubt that the sig is legit. I sure as heck wouldn't sub it a 3rd time. It's clearly a 6.5/7.0 copy signed by Len Wein. WINNAH! |
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DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Batman66 It gets me in trouble, but no one has to wonder what I'm thinking. However, I have been in a similar situation and it sucks. |
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 I'm a #2.
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BigRedOne1944 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| What exactly is "Removable restoration"? How is it done? |
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| They gouge, cut, or scrape it off. | ||
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 The apple sauce and pudding were the best part...
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Bronte private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by BigRedOne1944 Scroll about 1/2 way down https://www.cgccomics.com/ccs-pressing/ |
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Watcher private msg quote post Address this user | |
| wow...a lot of options and all are acceptable. This entire market is opinion so let's keep that in mind... 1) paid 60 dollars..win/win no matter what you do 2) yellow label no longer viable unless you add a sig to it which may not be a bad idea. 3) are you selling at some point or keeping ..because 3 submissions is not cost effective no matter how much you paid - but ive done it on much cheaper books just on principal even at a loss 4) all this traveling and handling could bite you if something happens and then you'll kick yourself..but you may get a half grade bump covering the cost of final submission 5) red isn't as accepted yet as blue or yellow in much of the market so even though legit and may increase value vs. blue on paper...it may affect resale in real world. 6) which label do you like best and is it important to have sig stated on label..becasue adding a sig for a yellow and having an unverified sig possibly also stated on label would be ideal if they'll do that - would CBCS verify the sig while still giving you yellow for the second sig? cuz That'd be perfect (but not cost effective )  |
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The apple sauce and pudding were the best part...
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Bronte private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Really stupid question. If the verified book was in CGC hands during unrestoration and regrading shouldn't that have kept the verified label? It's not like he sent it to some corner shack and then CGC. My thinking is, when pressing, doesnt the book maintain signature status? |
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The apple sauce and pudding were the best part...
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Bronte private msg quote post Address this user | |
| NM I just noticed it was originally a cbcs book. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by WatcherSuperb analysis..if anything ever happens to me I want you selling my collection Watcher |
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| Ha! Thanks Darkseid |
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