eBay "Best Offers" - What do you think?10319
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| On eBay, I like to think that all of my best offers are reasonable, but I never take exception if a seller declines or doesn't send a counter. It's all part of the process. But what do you think when a seller lists a book with a BIN of, say, $75, and they decline offers all the way up to $70? I understand it's their perogative, but if you're not going to accept a reasonable offer, why have a "Best Offer" at all? That happened this weekend, and I'll admit, I handled it like a jerk. It was a $100 item and my offers up to $92 were declined. So, out of frustration, I used up all my "remaining" offers with $92.01, $92.02 and $92.03 just because I was irritated. Yes, I know that was a jerk move on my part, but even monks get frustrated  What do you think of best offers on eBay? Just curious. |
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| Majority of the times people think a good offer is 60% off than get PO'ED when you just decline without a counter offer if someone offers me 5$ or 10$ lower I accept right away depending on the item sometimes 15$ to many expect a deal of the century which isn't going to happen | ||
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| I think people can put whatever they want. ebay already is typically a place for buying comics below FMV, whatever they have as the bottom they would accept is what it is. Maybe the Best offer was $95, as they were willing to go an additional 5% off; but didn't want to give an additional 8%. So what? They probably don't even know. I get no notifications when people use-up their offers. Had $150 comic that was selling for around $175. I noted (weeks later) it had a 3-offer history of 45, 50 and 55. I'm not mad at the person looking for a deal; it didn't impact me at all. | ||
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| Some people think a lot of their own merchandise... I make an offer I think is fair, they can accept, decline, or counteroffer... I shake my head sometimes, but never take offense to what they do. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Robert86m Absolutely. Like I said, I'm not mad, but I just think it's silly. Now if I was looking for more than 10% off or coming in with a screwy lowball offer, that's one thing. And really, it's no skin off my back or the sellers, for that matter either way. Just a minor frustration for me in the eBay machine  |
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| I think if they use the offer feature and then refuse to accept a fair price, meaning within distance of the item, for someone that has the feedback and seems serious they are simply wasting other peoples times and need to get off...ebays lawn? | ||
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| I think ebay automatically adds best offers to most buy it now items. At least that is what happens when I list. As far as best offers, I have found most sellers don't send counters and their initial prices are well above fmv. I very rarely get a seller to accept an offer for what the comic has actually sold for. Ideally, sellers should start selling more outside of ebay for better prices than what you can get on ebay. From my experience, this is not the case either. Most of my expensive comics were purchased from ebay or other comic stores, not individuals. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Darkseid_of_town What distance as a % of the BIN? 10%? 20%? What's "fair"? Are they already 10% under FMV? So it has to be 20% under to be "fair" on ebay offers? Keeping in mind the recent increase in fees to sellers that now include the tax and if it gets returned you don't get refunded the fees on the shipping. This is why it's completely irrelevant and as in any form of buying any items from anyone anywhere; you can ask whatever the crap you want for it. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by moodswing Most comic stores are small, independent operations. And ebay is largely populated by collector/sellers. You are buying them from individuals. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by etapi65I agree with asking anything they choose for a comic, or other item for that matter, that's just how the market works. I dont think there is a solid firm line to follow...because the lower the price the less the window is open. MY comment was based on when I used to sell and you had the option to offer a best offer or not..it wasn't mandatory. My point was in thinking if they had the choice and chose to add the feature, they should be willing to deal a bit is all. If ebay is REQUIRING now that the feature be given, then my post above is not applicable...I hope that makes more sense |
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moodswing private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @etapi65 I meant it in terms of sellers who sell outside of ebay charge more for the same comic. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by etapi65 Totally agree. But I still think somebody who balks at an offer that's 8% under their asking price when "best offer" is considered is a wiener. Just my two cents. But it's their right to be a wiener, and I accept that too. |
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 I'd like to say I still turned out alright, but that would be a lie.
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| You also need to take into consideration how long the listing has been up when the offer is received. Even if a $150 item gets a fair offer of $120 the buyer may want to wait a few more days or weeks to see what else comes in. Some people don't have a sense of urgency to immediately sell after the first reasonable offer if they believe their item is listed at market value and there is potential to get more money for it. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by flandersthat's a very good point Flanders...I have often watched an item and waited for it to be up awhile an then offered, myself |
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I'd like to say I still turned out alright, but that would be a lie.
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| @Paint_Monk send a link to the comic, maybe the seller will accept my offer of $92.04 | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by flanders Then I'd be really grumpy all over again! |
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 To answer your question, no, this is not where the comics go to die.
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| I like the Best Offer option and have always used it. Usually I put my BIN price a little higher than what I am looking to sell it for and a lot of the time I will get offers for what I wanted anyways. The only offers that irritate me a bit are the people who put a ridiculous offer and in the notes tell me what my comic is worth. I had a Amazing Spiderman 353 Graded 9.4 up with $30 BIN o.b.o. The guy puts a $5.00 offer in and tells me the comic is only worth $2.50 and he is willing to pay double that. So I decline and in the notes I tell him that maybe a NON GRADED copy but if he couldn't tell from the Picture, Title, and Description this one was graded. I suggested he do a search and see. Then he puts another offer in of $4.00. I decline again and in the notes this time I tell him to quit wasting my time and get back on his meds. I also blocked him from bidding or putting any further offers in. So I thought this was over but I get a message through ebay from him and he is cussing me out threatening to come to my house and kick my a$$. LOL wow maybe he was off of his meds after all. Well long story even longer I called ebay and told them about the message and a they said they would take care of it immediately. I checked a few days later and his account was no longer active. Now I try to remember to set the auto decline so I don't even get bothered by them. @Paint_Monk I would have taken your $92.03 offer btw  |
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I'd like to say I still turned out alright, but that would be a lie.
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Quote:Originally Posted by MutantMania I'm surprised that if he was that angry he didn't just buy it from you so he could get your address through ebay/paypal and then come to your house and murder you. |
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To answer your question, no, this is not where the comics go to die.
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MutantMania private msg quote post Address this user | |
@flanders LOL.. He may have possibly been thinking about that but I blocked him  |
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 I hear their hourly rate is outrageous!
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Quote:Originally Posted by MutantMania I agree that whatever the person wants to sell it for is their prerogative. I send an offer on a book that had a BIN of 19 dollars and the Make an Offer option active. I didn't mind paying 19 dollars for the book but since i could make an offer, i did. his Offer Auto Reject, rejected my offer up to 18 dollars. What the... I've not been force to use the Best Offer option by Ebay, it's been an option for me. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by MutantMania Thanks! I didn't think it was unreasonable, but as I said, declining was his perogative. It made me feel much better that I snagged the same book about 10 minutes ago in better condition with a buy-it-now of $50. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by sportshort What happens is if your auction doesn't sell, they automatically add a OBO for 50% of your BIN when they relist. Essentially, forcing you to add an OBO option because it gets re-added everytime your auction gets relisted. |
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| And that there is some nonsense, you should be able to sell how and the way you like to the most part. it used to be different back when I was selling several years ago. | ||
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To answer your question, no, this is not where the comics go to die.
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Quote:Originally Posted by etapi65 Are you talking about auctions or Fixed Price? I have my auctions set to be manually relisted and normally I don't add a BIN or Best Offer option on them. On the Fixed Price thanks to the recent eBay rule they automatically get renewed every 30 days. I do not like that one at all because some times I don't want to relist everything. So now I have to keep an eye out and if I don't want an item to be renewed I have to end it before the 30 days is up. Is there a Best Offer option added to the fixed price listing automatically now? |
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Quote:Originally Posted by MutantMania Yes, an OBO of 50% of your asking price is automatically added to any fixed price auctions which automatically renews. It’s sooooo annoying. In fact, even if you cancel the item before the 30 days are up, then decide to relist it they also automatically add the OBO of 50%....even if you go in and manually toggle it off before relisting it...again....SOOOO ANNOYIng!! Must be a glitch in ebays relisting feature....a “convenient” glitch for them... |
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| I think the listings don't automatically add the OBO option if you pay for an eBay store. I have the cheapest store option and eBay hasn't added any OBOs to my listings since. It is baloney that you would have to pay to not have it. | ||
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 I've spent years perfecting my brand of assholery.
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| I see no sense in having a best offer option if you're only going to move $5 or $10 off the list price. Save everyone's time and just set a BIN. | ||
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| I also set any listings that I am accepting offers to auto accept what I'm willing to take or reject what I won't. Too many ridiculous lowball offers come in. onlythosekeys comes to mind as to why I started the auto accept/reject option. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by sportshort LOL. I have no idea why people do some of the crap they do on Ebay. Maybe it makes them feel like they have power? It's like setting up Best Offer just to scold you for making an offer? Unless it was added by Ebay without the sellers knowledge. I've had that happen once or twice strangely. I used to to Best Offer all the time. Now on the rare occassion, I will usually set to Auto-accept an offer of 5% to 10% off and Auto-decline Maybe at 20% to 25% below asking, depending on the item. Anyone in the in-between area I figure has made a reasonable offer and I will engage them in a conversation or negotiation for the final price. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Studley_Dudley I used to think they (low-ballers) were just fishing for people who made mistakes in setting up the auto-accept. Now I think they are just looking for someone who will engage them in conversation at a low starting point. If a book is worth $200 and a seller will respond to an offer of $100, they now have a decent chance of getting that book for $140-160. |
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