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Quote:Originally Posted by teacha777 I'll try to remember to take the pics and send them. I think all my submissions from Orlando Megacon 2019 had newton's rings. |
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@eee91 "...Curiously enough, I posted this tip on the CGC boards and the mods deleted it..." Here is what I stated and believe in an earlier post on this discussion. "Great easy solution but I don't think CGC is down with explaining how to "fix" their holders." I think your experience proves this. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Jesse_O How is this not different from CBCS suggesting to use a can of air and blow out the sides of debris or plastic shavings inside CBCS cases? |
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Quote:Originally Posted by kaptainmyke Never heard of this before, interesting. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by kaptainmyke Not that different but is that as pervasive an issue as the rings?? I've had rings from CGC but never debris from CBCS |
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Quote:Originally Posted by eee91 Have the newton rings you have fixed come back or have new ones shown up in other parts of the case? |
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Quote:Originally Posted by kaptainmyke Well I would say the biggest difference is that at least CBCS seems to be trying to own their problem and give you a way to correct it. CGC doesn't even want to discuss or even admit to the elephant in the room. |
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I wonder if a nice Action 1 unrestored in the higher 8.0 plus range getting graded for auction would end up with Newton's or would they take special care to fix it before sending it out as it may end up in a high profile auction ? | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by kaptainmyke Unless I'm mistaken, I don't believe that CGC has offered up a "solution" like the suction cups, slip of paper, etc. These are all ideas from the boardies. According to CGC, newton rings are acceptable to a point. The solution they offer is to reholder it if it is, in their perspective, excessive. In your example, CBCS sees that it is a problem and offers a solution that actually solves the issue. The same can't be said about the remedies for newton rings. I understand that the rings can come back occasionally. I've never heard of debris or plastic shavings coming back after they are removed. And I don't believe that CBCS answered that a certain amount of shavings and debris is to be expected and is normal. So, yeah, I'd say they are different situations in some major ways. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by KYoung_1974 On a few, they came back (in the same spots) but not as badly as they were before. I just did the process again. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by KatKomics It baffles my mind that this is tolerated by collectors and not immediately rectified by the company. It's like comic book twilight zone. |
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And POOF!!!! The video is gone!!!! LMAO!!!! | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Jesse_O Does this mean they have moles in these forums? Or, they came to their senses. |
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REAL solution,.. send your books to CBCS. Problem solved! | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by sportshort I doubt they came to their senses. I'm sure they have someone monitoring the social networking sites, including this forum. But between the comments here, on the CGC forum and left on the video page on YouTube, no one was supportive of what CGC said in the video. The reception was very negative. I don't think that they thought they would get that big of a negative response to it. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Jesse_O In a nutshell... this. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Jesse_O EXACTLY! And they are probably not going to attempt to remedy the problem until their new press pays for itself. EDIT - fix the problem early or lose money reslabbing for free. Idiots! |
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On their own forum, CGC has one of their customers saying that PGX and CBCS don't deal with newton rings so why doesn't CGC fix it. That one HAD to sting!!! LOL!!! | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Jesse_O I'm sure it did. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Jesse_O Oh, of course. Marketing, TRUE MARKETING is not convincing customers that they SHOULD use your services, but convincing them that they NEED to use your services. CGC fails. CBCS=The Clear Choice |
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CGC = Can't Guarantee Clear Sorry ... not sorry. Had to be done. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Jesse_O LMAO |
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@eee91 Is that thing big enough to use to reach the center of the slab? @GAC It seems to me that being a QC person at CGC is probably one of the easiest jobs in America. You don't really do anything if you're letting slabs like that thru. |
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I have some books still in grading with CGC when they come back I'll post. | ||
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"superior optics" | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Gaard No, but it gets about 1/4 of the way - which is enough to reach half the slab. If I need to reach other side of the slab, I can use the tool on the other side of the slab to reach the other half. ![]() |
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Quote:Originally Posted by eee91 |
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Would love to use CBCS for books I’m selling not just keeping. But money talks and as long as people spend more on cgc I will just have to use CBCS only for my PC | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by eee91 That's hilarious. |
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The next video will introduce the term "Authenticity Rainbows". "Don't be fooled by counterfeit slabs...look for the Authenticity Rainbows, our way of letting you rest easy with visible proof that your treasured collectible was slabbed by CGC". |
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