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Rather ingenius to conflate your viewing freedoms with the CW having freedom to make the content they choose ...but to be clear by all means watch what you like ..but be clear just as movies made about heterosexual people are not an onslaught nor.an agenda neither are movies made about LGBT people


If the board had a filter to block seeing your posts, I would. You simply don't posts anything that interests me. In no way would I try to limit your right to express yourself, but your opinion has no significance to me. I'm close to wandering off from your playground. I'm capable of finding somewhere else to exchange thoughts and ideas. Best wishes for you.
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Rather ingenius to conflate your viewing freedoms with the CW having freedom to make the content they choose ...but to be clear by all means watch what you like ..but be clear just as movies made about heterosexual people are not an onslaught nor.an agenda neither are movies made about LGBT people


If the board had a filter to block seeing your posts, I would. You simply don't posts anything that interests me. In no way would I try to limit your right to express yourself, but your opinion has no significance to me. I'm close to wandering off from your playground. I'm capable of finding somewhere else to exchange thoughts and ideas. Best wishes for you.


I was thinking of a similar analogy. His baited statements are apparent and I chose to stop responding to him directly. There is a history of confrontational behavior.

I'm out!


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Comics have had an "agenda" for decades. It just happened to be one they agreed with.

They may have had agendas, but at least they had enjoyable, well thought out, quality story lines in which to promote those agendas.
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Rather ingenius to conflate your viewing freedoms with the CW having freedom to make the content they choose ...but to be clear by all means watch what you like ..but be clear just as movies made about heterosexual people are not an onslaught nor.an agenda neither are movies made about LGBT people


If the board had a filter to block seeing your posts, I would. You simply don't posts anything that interests me. In no way would I try to limit your right to express yourself, but your opinion has no significance to me. I'm close to wandering off from your playground. I'm capable of finding somewhere else to exchange thoughts and ideas. Best wishes for you.
mutual feelings. You were the person who attacked.me my very first posting here and you are constantly at a copy and paste level of.negative. Feel free to step where you like as long as it's as far from my posts as posaible
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Rather ingenius to conflate your viewing freedoms with the CW having freedom to make the content they choose ...but to be clear by all means watch what you like ..but be clear just as movies made about heterosexual people are not an onslaught nor.an agenda neither are movies made about LGBT people


If the board had a filter to block seeing your posts, I would. You simply don't posts anything that interests me. In no way would I try to limit your right to express yourself, but your opinion has no significance to me. I'm close to wandering off from your playground. I'm capable of finding somewhere else to exchange thoughts and ideas. Best wishes for you.


I was thinking of a similar analogy. His baited statements are apparent and I chose to stop responding to him directly. There is a history of confrontational behavior.

I'm out!


because your hate speech and intolerance of LGBT lifestyle draws response you then play the victim even referring to me as if.i were not here...hilarious and childish both.
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If I could, I would. I swear. DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user
Who needs CW drama?

:popcorn:
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I like crickets.
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I hope that everyone got everything out of their systems now. If we can't move past this, this thread will get locked.
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I like crickets.

Lesbian crickets?
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I like crickets.

Lesbian crickets?


Yep!! I even like the ones that identify themselves as grasshoppers.
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Reminds me of a Mothballs joke
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Reminds me of a Mothballs joke

Batwoman isn't interested in your mothy balls.
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It was a one trick pony show but always hilarious. GAC private msg quote post Address this user
this is a hilarious exchange lol!
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I wonder if anyone has ever compared modern television programs to vintage ones and noticed any of the paralells that have always been there and mostly have been missed?
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Rather ingenius to conflate your viewing freedoms with the CW having freedom to make the content they choose ...but to be clear by all means watch what you like ..but be clear just as movies made about heterosexual people are not an onslaught nor.an agenda neither are movies made about LGBT people


If the board had a filter to block seeing your posts, I would. You simply don't posts anything that interests me. In no way would I try to limit your right to express yourself, but your opinion has no significance to me. I'm close to wandering off from your playground. I'm capable of finding somewhere else to exchange thoughts and ideas. Best wishes for you.
mutual feelings. You were the person who attacked.me my very first posting here and you are constantly at a copy and paste level of.negative. Feel free to step where you like as long as it's as far from my posts as posaible


Blah! Blah! Blah!
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I will ignore the baiting Jackster...I do offer that the supposed or inferred "agenda" from Hollywood has always been there and right in front of us....

Consider chilrens programs like Gilligan's island....you have two younger men, who you then learn share a hut together. You have the younger women, Ginger and Marianne, who also share a hut. Odd isn't it? the professor of course being a nerd sleeps alone..and the two old people who share a hut are of course hetero because they are old enough it doesn't matter anyway.


Even cartoons have always held those standards, but people missed it. Fred and Barney and their wives head out for a weekend...then pitch tents....next scene we see Fred and Barneys feet sticking out of one tent, while Wilma and Betty chatter away in another tent together.
There were many examples like this but it has always been there....and is hardly a recent invention.
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After reading many of the posts in the thread I can only post - If I knew where this thread was headed I wouldn't have started it.


Should have just sent me a PM. I knew where it was going after you started it.
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After reading many of the posts in the thread I can only post - If I knew where this thread was headed I wouldn't have started it.


Should have just sent me a PM. I knew where it was going after you started it.


Yeah...at first I made a rational comment then I went back and edited because I knew it wouldn't matter. Any time anything gets close to a social issue it spirals quickly off the tracks

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I also picture this when I peruse some of these comments and previous posts on this board with issues involving women

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Thank you sir. May I have another? Siggy private msg quote post Address this user
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Consider chilrens programs like Gilligan's island....you have two younger men, who you then learn share a hut together. You have the younger women, Ginger and Marianne, who also share a hut. Odd isn't it? the professor of course being a nerd sleeps alone..and the two old people who share a hut are of course hetero because they are old enough it doesn't matter anyway.

Because of the era, I think the guys shared a hut and the girls shared a hut because they were heterosexual. Otherwise it would have had to have been a hour long show LOL
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Consider chilrens programs like Gilligan's island....you have two younger men, who you then learn share a hut together. You have the younger women, Ginger and Marianne, who also share a hut. Odd isn't it? the professor of course being a nerd sleeps alone..and the two old people who share a hut are of course hetero because they are old enough it doesn't matter anyway.

Because of the era, I think the guys shared a hut and the girls shared a hut because they were heterosexual. Otherwise it would have had to have been a hour long show LOL
Precisely the point I hoped to make...there has always been an agenda. We are the most backwards country in the supposedly "free" world, compared to by example most European nations when it deals with sexuality in our culture and entertainment media. When we do get more modern updated programming and studios that attempt to portray those things we then accuse them of being driven by agenda....but in reality its simply ...if you like, replacing one agenda for another.
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Precisely the point I hoped to make...there has always been an agenda. We are the most backwards country in the supposedly "free" world, compared to by example most European nations when it deals with sexuality in our culture and entertainment media. When we do get more modern updated programming and studios that attempt to portray those things we then accuse them of being driven by agenda....but in reality its simply ...if you like, replacing one agenda for another.

You are confused as to what 'pushing an agenda' actually is.

No one here appears to be anti-alphabet. We simply dislike when storytelling is sacrificed for pandering.
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Precisely the point I hoped to make...there has always been an agenda. We are the most backwards country in the supposedly "free" world, compared to by example most European nations when it deals with sexuality in our culture and entertainment media. When we do get more modern updated programming and studios that attempt to portray those things we then accuse them of being driven by agenda....but in reality its simply ...if you like, replacing one agenda for another.


It is always interesting to have someone compare the US to other area of the world. Like all nations we are ahead in some areas and behind in others. That being said, the USA is a much freer place than any nation I’ve been through.

BTW, your "modern updated programming" is allowed to be cut out when it is shown in places like China by the very companies that some view as being so progressive here in the US. It seems those companies allow the content to be cut out to capture dollars. Why is it that those companies are protested/boycotted/whatever here in the USA for allowing their products to be censored overseas? The only answer I can come up with is that the people's cheese here isn't being moved so they don't care.
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Geez! I wake up and find this thread is still going.

Can we just say that Batwoman is the lesbian we need but not the lesbian we deserve and end it?
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Ok, I have to point out some very glaring fallacies here. A lot of people seemed convinced that the CW has some kind of agenda and are upset because Batwoman isn't being portrayed accurately.

First off, IF there is an agenda, it is being pushed by DC. Kate Kane (the character for the TV Batwoman) is a lesbian in the comics. The CW didn't change anything in that regards. From what I can tell, and yes, I watched the show, the show is actually accurate to the comics. Or at least, as accurate as tv shows tend to be.

The argument that this isn't the Batwoman you grew up with really isn't an argument. They told you that when they talked about demographics. Kate Kane first appeared in comics in 2006. So by choosing to do her as Batwoman, they are targeting people who think of her, and not Kathy Kane, as Batwoman. She is the Batwoman of the New 52 generation.

I find it interesting that many of the people who actually watched it are either holding off judgement or have liked it. The ones who didn't watch it, or only watched 5 minutes of it, are the ones complaining about an agenda.

Then there is the line about sacrificing story to push a lifestyle. Guess what, the lifestyle is part of her story!! She didn't fall into a well and become obsessed with bats. Her lifestyle and sexual preferences are tantamount to her character. To tell her story, you would actually be altering it by NOT showing her lifestyle.

I get that it is not everybody's cup of tea. I understand if you don't agree with it. But just be honest. Just say that you are not comfortable with the subject matter. Say that the current DC Universe is trash in your opinion. These are all valid opinions.

But when you judge something (either pro or con) without having examined it, that is the very definition of prejudice. And when a prejudiced person is convinced that their opinion is the only correct one, we end up with arguments. If you haven't watched it, I suggest you do so and form your own opinion.

For myself, I quite enjoyed it. But I'm not a DC guy and actually had very little clue on Kate Kane. I actually had to research her history to appreciate the storyline, but I'm glad I did. The character actually seems quite complex and driven by motives that are unique to her. That makes it interesting for me. It's not the same old story wrapped up in a new box.
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I find it interesting that many of the people who actually watched it are either holding off judgement or have liked it. The ones who didn't watch it, or only watched 5 minutes of it, are the ones complaining about an agenda.


I watched it for 5 or so minutes and pretty much expressed that in my post that started this thread. However, I have NEVER stated anything about an "AGENDA" being the reason I turned it off. The 5 or so minutes I watched were horrible due to the acting (Alice was a bad rip-off of Harley Quinn with the over acting of Jared Leto's Joker thrown in), and the fight scene leading up to her getting captured by Alice was just bad TV.

No AGENDA on my end on why I didn't like it. I didn't like it because the show was acted and written at about at the same level as an after school special. Yep, in my opinion, it was that bad so I turned it off.

I started the thread because it was comic book related and I wanted to see if others watched it. If you note my first post asks if it got any better. I wanted to know it I should invest anymore time into something that might have gotten better after I turned it off. I didn't realize the thread would turn the way it did. As I stated, if I did I wouldn't have started the thread.

BTW, I didn't know the show touched on whatever AGENDA. Why? I hadn't read anything about it leading up to the show airing and in the 5 or so minutes I watched there wasn't anything in it about this AGENDA or that AGENDA. I only learned about the different AGENDAS that some see in the show through this thread.
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Geez! I wake up and find this thread is still going.

Can we just say that Batwoman is the lesbian we need but not the lesbian we deserve and end it?


LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Gold!!
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