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 It was a one trick pony show but always hilarious.
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| @BrashSmurf no it doesn't. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by GACyeah i mean sure who doesn't want a verified printed signature |
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 I'd like to say I still turned out alright, but that would be a lie.
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Quote:Originally Posted by GAC It does make you question how many fake or printed signatures Beckett has verified over the years on comics, sports memorabilia and trading cards. The simple answer is...too many. |
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It was a one trick pony show but always hilarious.
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| It's a mistake. It doesn't throw the whole program into question. It was Todd's signature, just not a live one. Yeah, it sucks they made a mistake but to say it throws the whole program into question is wrong. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by GAC so without a doubt you can safely say this is the only mistake they have ever made in regards to signatures |
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I'd like to say I still turned out alright, but that would be a lie.
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Quote:Originally Posted by GAC Well I'm looking forward to seeing how CBCS corrects the mistake in this specific situation. I hope they offer to press, slab the comic for free, and compensate the buyer the difference in the price he paid vs the current market value of whatever grade the resubmitted comic comes back as. For example if it comes back a 9.8 valued at $200 CBCS should pay or give a credit of $95. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by flanders i agree, handling this well will speak volumes. |
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| I really hope CBCS steps in to correct this. Good on @Joosh for buying and filming it. Bummer about the results but this is a good opportunity to right a wrong. | ||
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It was a one trick pony show but always hilarious.
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Quote:Originally Posted by BrashSmurf I'm not sure where you got this from. |
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 SpongeBob Comics #1 sells for $991!
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| I just sent a PM to Mr. Borock. I'd like to think the story isn't over. CBCS will come through. If anyone reading this can help get his attention on this as soon as possible that would be appreciated. |
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| after this i will never buy a cbcs red label, period. If i submit a book for a red label it will be for my PC but i'll stick to yellow if i buy signatures |
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I'd like to say I still turned out alright, but that would be a lie.
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Quote:Originally Posted by BrashSmurf Even though you just saw how easy it is to open a CBCS case? |
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Quote:Originally Posted by flanders all my yellows are cgc all my red cbcs labels are books i have seen signed in person |
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SpongeBob Comics #1 sells for $991!
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Quote:Originally Posted by flanders To be fair, the inner sleeve is sealed to the label and around the book, so they aren't going to separate without obvious tampering. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by BrashSmurf Sorry but a bit naive if you think mistakes don’t happen across the firms for Yellow labels as well |
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| But I guess this means that red label sigs are not being checked for live ink. That is sad | ||
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 The apple sauce and pudding were the best part...
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| For the folks having a hard time accepting this mistake, I think you need to look at the situation with a bit more of an open mind. People make mistakes. Cooks included nutz in a dish, a surgeon left a clamp in a patient. Those are the type of mistakes that are worth getting upset over. If you believe in christianity. apparently somebody /something deemed your mistakes redeemable. Essentially mistakes happen and nobody is immune. I would gamble a large sum of money that during the course of a day, quite a few CGC and CSBC books have been misgraded by .2 points. As a few members put it, how this situation is dealt with by cbcs is a huge point. Although being refunded for the books cost seems kind of questionable. I dont see how that's there issue. It's like me buying a book and it had been deemed restored after it was originally a universal label. CGC is not going to give me 500$ bux back for a mistake. To think so in my mind is illogical. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Bronte While I agree with you in principle I would like CBCS to confirm that they check for live ink. If they don’t then..... |
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 If I could, I would. I swear.
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Quote:Originally Posted by BrashSmurf I know for certain that green label Stan Lee signatures were acquired, cracked out, and resubmitted with witnessed Stan Lee signatures in order to get yellow labels. If it could happen with Stan, I wonder what other yellow labels used to sitting in green ones? |
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Quote:Originally Posted by DrWatsonhow did you come by this information? |
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The apple sauce and pudding were the best part...
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| @poka I have no idea the process. However, if they dont, they should. All steps should be reevaluated. In my mind, I would also go so far as to halt authentication until they process a new system of checks and balances. That would show they are taking it seriously and committed to quality. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by BrashSmurfrnrnWhere there is money involved - dishonest people appear |
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 I’m not an ant. I’m a rootin tootin Hornet!
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| I’ve been saying they can’t tell a real one from a fake Stan Lee so this is no surprise to me. Not even real ink. Lol | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by pokaokay but that really is not an answer just a vague assumption |
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It was a one trick pony show but always hilarious.
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| The first step in verification must be ensuring it's a live signature and not a print. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Zombie_Head i see what you are saying now we wait for a Stan Lee solvent dna ink to get verified |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Zombie_Head I agree with you on the ink but again seems that you have still not understood that a sig which does not pass verification does not mean it is fake. Just that it cannot be verified. That includes pretty much all Stan Lee’s sigs for the last year before he died. |
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If I could, I would. I swear.
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Quote:Originally Posted by BrashSmurf I'm old in this hobby. I've been around. I have friends in low places. |
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| @BrashSmurf not an assumption | ||
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SpongeBob Comics #1 sells for $991!
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| I think @Bronte is on the right track. I work for a contract manufacturer of medical devices; metal and plastic that goes into the body permanently. Heavily FDA regulated with every process detailed, evaluated for risk, and validated. Even in this industry, mistakes happen, sometimes big mistakes. As seen by the daytime lawyer ads asking if you or a loved one had a certain implant. Is the ink verified as live as part of the VSP process? It probably is, but my book obviously wasn’t. Someone didn’t follow procedure is my guess, and a major error happened and got through QC. |
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