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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this. 75.11K	75.11K GAC private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	@BrashSmurf no it doesn't.
	5 years ago	Post 126 • IP flag post

Collector 980	980 BrashSmurf private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 1
	Quote: Originally Posted by GAC @BrashSmurf no it doesn't. yeah i mean sure who doesn't want a verified printed signature
	5 years ago	Post 127 • IP flag post

I'd like to say I still turned out alright, but that would be a lie. 27.36K	27.36K flanders private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 1
	Quote: Originally Posted by GAC @BrashSmurf no it doesn't. It does make you question how many fake or printed signatures Beckett has verified over the years on comics, sports memorabilia and trading cards. The simple answer is...too many.
	5 years ago	Post 128 • IP flag post

I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this. 75.11K	75.11K GAC private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	It's a mistake. It doesn't throw the whole program into question. It was Todd's signature, just not a live one. Yeah, it sucks they made a mistake but to say it throws the whole program into question is wrong.
	5 years ago	Post 129 • IP flag post

Collector 980	980 BrashSmurf private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 1
	Quote: Originally Posted by GAC It's a mistake. It doesn't throw the whole program into question. It was Todd's signature, just not a live one. Yeah, it sucks they made a mistake but to say it throws the whole program into question is wrong. so without a doubt you can safely say this is the only mistake they have ever made in regards to signatures
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I'd like to say I still turned out alright, but that would be a lie. 27.36K	27.36K flanders private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 2
	Quote: Originally Posted by GAC It's a mistake. It doesn't throw the whole program into question. It was Todd's signature, just not a live one. Yeah, it sucks they made a mistake but to say it throws the whole program into question is wrong. Well I'm looking forward to seeing how CBCS corrects the mistake in this specific situation. I hope they offer to press, slab the comic for free, and compensate the buyer the difference in the price he paid vs the current market value of whatever grade the resubmitted comic comes back as. For example if it comes back a 9.8 valued at $200 CBCS should pay or give a credit of $95.
	5 years ago	Post 131 • IP flag post

Collector 980	980 BrashSmurf private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 1
	Quote: Originally Posted by flanders Quote: Originally Posted by GAC It's a mistake. It doesn't throw the whole program into question. It was Todd's signature, just not a live one. Yeah, it sucks they made a mistake but to say it throws the whole program into question is wrong. Well I'm looking forward to seeing how CBCS corrects the mistake in this specific situation. I hope they offer to press, slab the comic for free, and compensate the buyer the difference in the price he paid vs the current market value of whatever grade the resubmitted comic comes back as. For example if it comes back a 9.8 valued at $200 CBCS should pay or give a credit of $95. i agree, handling this well will speak volumes.
	5 years ago	Post 132 • IP flag post

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	I really hope CBCS steps in to correct this. Good on @Joosh for buying and filming it. Bummer about the results but this is a good opportunity to right a wrong.
	5 years ago	Post 133 • IP flag post

I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this. 75.11K	75.11K GAC private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	Quote: Originally Posted by BrashSmurf Quote: Originally Posted by GAC It's a mistake. It doesn't throw the whole program into question. It was Todd's signature, just not a live one. Yeah, it sucks they made a mistake but to say it throws the whole program into question is wrong. so without a doubt you can safely say this is the only mistake they have ever made in regards to signatures I'm not sure where you got this from.
	5 years ago	Post 134 • IP flag post

SpongeBob Comics #1 sells for $991! 4.18K	4.18K Joosh private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 1
	I just sent a PM to Mr. Borock. I'd like to think the story isn't over. CBCS will come through. If anyone reading this can help get his attention on this as soon as possible that would be appreciated.
	5 years ago	Post 135 • IP flag post

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	after this i will never buy a cbcs red label, period. If i submit a book for a red label it will be for my PC but i'll stick to yellow if i buy signatures
	5 years ago	Post 136 • IP flag post

I'd like to say I still turned out alright, but that would be a lie. 27.36K	27.36K flanders private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 1
	Quote: Originally Posted by BrashSmurf after this i will never buy a cbcs red label, period. If i submit a book for a red label it will be for my PC but i'll stick to yellow if i buy signatures Even though you just saw how easy it is to open a CBCS case?
	5 years ago	Post 137 • IP flag post

Collector 980	980 BrashSmurf private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 1
	Quote: Originally Posted by flanders Quote: Originally Posted by BrashSmurf after this i will never buy a cbcs red label, period. If i submit a book for a red label it will be for my PC but i'll stick to yellow if i buy signatures Even though you just saw how easy it is to open a CBCS case? all my yellows are cgc all my red cbcs labels are books i have seen signed in person
	5 years ago	Post 138 • IP flag post

SpongeBob Comics #1 sells for $991! 4.18K	4.18K Joosh private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 2
	Quote: Originally Posted by flanders Quote: Originally Posted by BrashSmurf after this i will never buy a cbcs red label, period. If i submit a book for a red label it will be for my PC but i'll stick to yellow if i buy signatures Even though you just saw how easy it is to open a CBCS case? To be fair, the inner sleeve is sealed to the label and around the book, so they aren't going to separate without obvious tampering.
	5 years ago	Post 139 • IP flag post

Collector 24.98K	24.98K poka private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 9
	Quote: Originally Posted by BrashSmurf after this i will never buy a cbcs red label, period. If i submit a book for a red label it will be for my PC but i'll stick to yellow if i buy signatures Sorry but a bit naive if you think mistakes don’t happen across the firms for Yellow labels as well
	5 years ago	Post 140 • IP flag post

Collector 24.98K	24.98K poka private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 1
	But I guess this means that red label sigs are not being checked for live ink. That is sad
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The apple sauce and pudding were the best part... 38.78K	38.78K Bronte private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 1
	For the folks having a hard time accepting this mistake, I think you need to look at the situation with a bit more of an open mind. People make mistakes. Cooks included nutz in a dish, a surgeon left a clamp in a patient. Those are the type of mistakes that are worth getting upset over. If you believe in christianity. apparently somebody /something deemed your mistakes redeemable. Essentially mistakes happen and nobody is immune. I would gamble a large sum of money that during the course of a day, quite a few CGC and CSBC books have been misgraded by .2 points. As a few members put it, how this situation is dealt with by cbcs is a huge point. Although being refunded for the books cost seems kind of questionable. I dont see how that's there issue. It's like me buying a book and it had been deemed restored after it was originally a universal label. CGC is not going to give me 500$ bux back for a mistake. To think so in my mind is illogical.
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Collector 24.98K	24.98K poka private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 3
	Quote: Originally Posted by Bronte For the folks having a hard time accepting this mistake, I think you need to look at the situation with a bit more of an open mind. People make mistakes. Cooks included nutz in a dish, a surgeon left a clamp in a patient. Those are the type of mistakes that are worth getting upset over. If you believe in christianity. apparently somebody /something deemed your mistakes redeemable. Essentially mistakes happen and nobody is immune. I would gamble a large sum of money that during the course of a day, quite a few CGC and CSBC books have been misgraded by .2 points. As a few members put it, how this situation is dealt with by cbcs is a huge point. Although being refunded for the books cost seems kind of questionable. I dont see how that's there issue. It's like me buying a book and it had been deemed restored after it was originally a universal label. CGC is not going to give me 500$ bux back for a mistake. To think so in my mind is illogical. While I agree with you in principle I would like CBCS to confirm that they check for live ink. If they don’t then.....
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If I could, I would. I swear. 54.24K	54.24K DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 6
	Quote: Originally Posted by BrashSmurf Quote: Originally Posted by flanders Quote: Originally Posted by BrashSmurf after this i will never buy a cbcs red label, period. If i submit a book for a red label it will be for my PC but i'll stick to yellow if i buy signatures Even though you just saw how easy it is to open a CBCS case? all my yellows are cgc all my red cbcs labels are books i have seen signed in person I know for certain that green label Stan Lee signatures were acquired, cracked out, and resubmitted with witnessed Stan Lee signatures in order to get yellow labels. If it could happen with Stan, I wonder what other yellow labels used to sitting in green ones?
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Collector 980	980 BrashSmurf private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	Quote: Originally Posted by DrWatson Quote: Originally Posted by BrashSmurf Quote: Originally Posted by flanders Quote: Originally Posted by BrashSmurf after this i will never buy a cbcs red label, period. If i submit a book for a red label it will be for my PC but i'll stick to yellow if i buy signatures Even though you just saw how easy it is to open a CBCS case? all my yellows are cgc all my red cbcs labels are books i have seen signed in person I know for certain that green label Stan Lee signatures were acquired, cracked out, and resubmitted with witnessed Stan Lee signatures in order to get yellow labels. If it could happen with Stan, I wonder what other yellow labels used to sitting in green ones? how did you come by this information?
	5 years ago	Post 145 • IP flag post

The apple sauce and pudding were the best part... 38.78K	38.78K Bronte private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	@poka I have no idea the process. However, if they dont, they should. All steps should be reevaluated. In my mind, I would also go so far as to halt authentication until they process a new system of checks and balances. That would show they are taking it seriously and committed to quality.
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Collector 24.98K	24.98K poka private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 1
	Quote: Originally Posted by BrashSmurf Quote: Originally Posted by DrWatson Quote: Originally Posted by BrashSmurf Quote: Originally Posted by flanders Quote: Originally Posted by BrashSmurf after this i will never buy a cbcs red label, period.rnrnIf i submit a book for a red label it will be for my PC but i'll stick to yellow if i buy signatures rnrnEven though you just saw how easy it is to open a CBCS case? rnall my yellows are cgcrnall my red cbcs labels are books i have seen signed in person rnI know for certain that green label Stan Lee signatures were acquired, cracked out, and resubmitted with witnessed Stan Lee signatures in order to get yellow labels. If it could happen with Stan, I wonder what other yellow labels used to sitting in green ones? how did you come by this information? rnrnWhere there is money involved - dishonest people appear
	5 years ago	Post 147 • IP flag post

I’m not an ant. I’m a rootin tootin Hornet! 3.54K	3.54K Zombie_Head private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 3
	I’ve been saying they can’t tell a real one from a fake Stan Lee so this is no surprise to me. Not even real ink. Lol
	5 years ago	Post 148 • IP flag post

Collector 980	980 BrashSmurf private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	Quote: Originally Posted by poka Quote: Originally Posted by BrashSmurf Quote: Originally Posted by DrWatson Quote: Originally Posted by BrashSmurf Quote: Originally Posted by flanders Quote: Originally Posted by BrashSmurf after this i will never buy a cbcs red label, period.rnrnIf i submit a book for a red label it will be for my PC but i'll stick to yellow if i buy signatures rnrnEven though you just saw how easy it is to open a CBCS case? rnall my yellows are cgcrnall my red cbcs labels are books i have seen signed in person rnI know for certain that green label Stan Lee signatures were acquired, cracked out, and resubmitted with witnessed Stan Lee signatures in order to get yellow labels. If it could happen with Stan, I wonder what other yellow labels used to sitting in green ones? how did you come by this information? rnrnWhere there is money involved - dishonest people appear okay but that really is not an answer just a vague assumption
	5 years ago	Post 149 • IP flag post

I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this. 75.11K	75.11K GAC private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 1
	The first step in verification must be ensuring it's a live signature and not a print.
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	Quote: Originally Posted by Zombie_Head I’ve been saying they can’t tell a real one from a fake Stan Lee so this is no surprise to me. Not even real ink. Lol i see what you are saying now we wait for a Stan Lee solvent dna ink to get verified
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Collector 24.98K	24.98K poka private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 3
	Quote: Originally Posted by Zombie_Head I’ve been saying they can’t tell a real one from a fake Stan Lee so this is no surprise to me. Not even real ink. Lol I agree with you on the ink but again seems that you have still not understood that a sig which does not pass verification does not mean it is fake. Just that it cannot be verified. That includes pretty much all Stan Lee’s sigs for the last year before he died.
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If I could, I would. I swear. 54.24K	54.24K DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 1
	Quote: Originally Posted by BrashSmurf Quote: Originally Posted by DrWatson Quote: Originally Posted by BrashSmurf Quote: Originally Posted by flanders Quote: Originally Posted by BrashSmurf after this i will never buy a cbcs red label, period. If i submit a book for a red label it will be for my PC but i'll stick to yellow if i buy signatures Even though you just saw how easy it is to open a CBCS case? all my yellows are cgc all my red cbcs labels are books i have seen signed in person I know for certain that green label Stan Lee signatures were acquired, cracked out, and resubmitted with witnessed Stan Lee signatures in order to get yellow labels. If it could happen with Stan, I wonder what other yellow labels used to sitting in green ones? how did you come by this information? I'm old in this hobby. I've been around. I have friends in low places.
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Collector 24.98K	24.98K poka private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 1
	@BrashSmurf not an assumption
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SpongeBob Comics #1 sells for $991! 4.18K	4.18K Joosh private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 8
	I think @Bronte is on the right track. I work for a contract manufacturer of medical devices; metal and plastic that goes into the body permanently. Heavily FDA regulated with every process detailed, evaluated for risk, and validated. Even in this industry, mistakes happen, sometimes big mistakes. As seen by the daytime lawyer ads asking if you or a loved one had a certain implant. Is the ink verified as live as part of the VSP process? It probably is, but my book obviously wasn’t. Someone didn’t follow procedure is my guess, and a major error happened and got through QC.
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