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Kenjisan1967 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| How much does pebbling affect a grade? | ||
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| What is pebbling? I thought that was damage to a book while in the slab as a result of puddling. | ||
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| Is that like Bam-baming? | ||
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| Okay, puddling and pebbling are two different things. Pebbling is when a book gets little bumps on it from a bad press job. Yes, it negatively impacts the grade. Puddling is the indent in the back of an inner well that can leave indentions in the back of a book. It is more prominent in slabs from the cgc, but not as common as Newton rings. I would recommend using an experienced and well practiced presser and not some Johnny-come-lately. |
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@DrWatson very informative  |
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| @Kenjisan1967 There isn't a standard for how much a book is downgraded for it. Pebbling can occur to varying degrees and how much is deducted for it is variable as well. The same degree of pebbling on a book in 8.0 won't affect the grade as much as it would on a book in the 9.2+ range. | ||
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| Fortunately pebbling, unless severe, can be reversed. | ||
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Kenjisan1967 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Thanks everyone for the insight. I have a few books and after getting the notes it states pebbling on the cover. Was just wondering if I resubmitted with a professional pressing if the grades would raise any. | ||
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| Pictures would be helpful. And...were they pressed prior to grading? |
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| Pebbling is the result of an inexperienced presser who presses books with an environment that is full of dirt, dust, and other contaminants that cause these particles to get pressed into the book. Unclean environment. As CFP stated, as long as the pebbling isn't too severe, it can be reversed - as long as there isn't any color rub or ink transfer. | ||
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| We see sooooo many books these days that have pebbling, it's a real shame. Please use a professional presser with years of experience and good references. Do the research before pressing. I hate seeing so many books ruined. | ||
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| I am just glad pebbling did not turn out to be related to cow tipping, that could have been messy | ||
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| @Kenjisan1967 I believe pebbling can exist outside of bad press jobs - it just means that a otherwise conformed surface has scattered debris that can even leave small dimples. However, it is probably most often associated with a bad press since it conforms the surface making the debris more impactful/noticable to the grade. |
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| Yep it’s true, I've seen books with pebbling from years of stacking. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by comic_book_man The pebbling that is usually noted by the graders is from a bad press job. Indents or bumps due to improper storage methods are a whole other animal. A book with pebbling from a bad press is immediately recognizable, even to the untrained eye. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by CFP_Comics You would think someone that pressed a book, to the point of pebbling, or any other damage that worsened the grade, would not send the book in for grading as-is... Unless this is something that is tim delayed and shows up long after the act of pressing...? |
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| Btw, when I google comic book pebbling i only get pictures of flintstone comics and fruity pebbles.... ....mmm....fruity pebbles.... |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Drogio lol!!!! |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Drogio One would think. But many people are eager to jump on the pressing train they literally have no idea about what is proper and improper. The do a quick press and wham bam, the book is in a bag and board on its way to the graders. The funniest part is there are always submitters willing to pay to have their books damaged versus waiting for someone competent. I don’t remember which board it was, but I remember someone posting they would rather have a 9.6 tomorrow than wait two months for a 9.8. If a presser is competent, they will be backlogged. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Drogio Same here. Can someone please post an example of pebbling?  |
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| Here is a book with a lot more than pebbling going on. This was a very poorly pressed book that was sent my way to resurrect. There is puckering all over the place and some pebbling in the top half of the book and to the right of Shazam’s hand.  |
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 Pebbling occurs when the paper used to dry the comic has a rough or uneven surface. Sometimes pebbling is evident in only a small area of a cover when localized pressing is used, or it can be found on the entire cover when fully pressed. Pebbling is one of the most easily fixable side effects when properly pressed. clickable text |
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Quote:Originally Posted by CFP_Comics So is pebbling apparent as soon as the comic leaves the press...or is it a defect that shows up after some time has passed and it may already be out the door? |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Drogio It is evident immediately after coming out of the press. |
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