What comics from the last 4-5 years is going to be a major collector's item10070
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| A couple other new Marvel characters could be Moon Girl and Kamala Khan. Moon Girl hasn't crossed over into other series too much that I've seen but her own has run continuously, and she's going to have a Disney + show. Kamala has been everywhere, including other books, and is getting a show as well. If Weapon H actually picks up, I would feel better about some past purchases... |
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| . Edge of the Spider-Verse #2 (2014). The Greg Land variant is already selling for some major coin. Already a key, could become a major key. |
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| Possibly Edge of Spider-Verse 2, but my bet is Ultimate Fallout 4. Especially the variant. However, the real gem will be a surprise that very few of us will see coming. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Wraith I like you're optimism but here's my two cents. You and I both know that if no children come into the fold it will be impossible to continue with comic "books" (with the exception of the super expensive books)as we know them. the "no new blood" is specifically the comic book industry's fault, by pricing comics the way they are the comic industry has made it impossible for children to afford comic books. I cannot see any child spending (or having) 20-40 dollars a week to spend on 4-10 comic books (never mind the variants), that is not a reality. the shortsightedness of the comic book industry does in fact spell the demise of the hobby. Again "as we know it". IMHO |
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Naomi. LOL!!  |
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| The publishers ride any limited sales boost that a new character or significant story arc provides, then they abandon it looking for the next creative idea that gives a sales boost. The publishers sabotage any back issue demand because they don't want you spending money on something they've already sold. They want you to spend that money on what they are making next. | ||
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| My money is on Batman who laughs and the dark night metal universe | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Yoosh5492 @Yoosh5492 ha, yeah..what happened to that already...I hope no one on this forum bought one of those when it was up to $400 for a 9.8 |
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| What new characters are actually popular? Are these new kid characters popular? Characters like Ms Marvel and Moon girl? I have trouble seeing adults spending a lot of money on these comics in the near future. Off the top of my head, I can only think of two new characters that seem to be popular: miles and the batman who laughs. |
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 SpongeBob Comics #1 sells for $991!
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| Teen titans 12: 1st full Batman Who Laughs. DC keeps pushing him hard, now with crossovers into other titles. Venom (2018) 3 3rd print: 1st full Knull and cover. Venom (2018) 9: 1st full Dylan Brock. I think he’s going to be the Miles Morales of Venom. |
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| Everyone has raised some great points. The main reason I asked the question is because this era is so similar to the 90s with special covers and speculation. But, for all the problems with the 90s, some key books came out of it. Someone said it very well in that it’s probably something we don’t know yet. As far as the hobby, comic characters are here to stay, but I agree that the comic stores and print books might be close to their end. Movies and tv are probably what will draw the kids in from now on. It’s sad, but at the same time when you see a kid wearing a scarlet witch or Hawkeye shirt, it’s pretty cool. |
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| @Jabberwookie Huge difference in print runs now. I still think I am the only comic book collector who doesn't have an x-force 1. Started collecting the following year. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by moodswing That is a good point. If it helps, I don’t own any X-Force at all. I was never a big Liefeld or McFarlane fan. It was too much style over substance for me. However, I miss the days when a struggling book would get a creative team that was given free reign to tell great stories. Seems they just reboot it now. |
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| I think everyone predicting gloom and doom for the comic industry fail to logic out that many of todays lower print runs are higher by multitude than they were during Seduciton of the Innocent hearings and its aftermath. The comic book fold is cyclical, meaning it rises and falls and rise again..often with a new style of comic, ie...monster, horror , romance, western, superhero, war or even funny books. Comics have been around in some form for a hundred or more years through wars, recessions, depressions and even sadly republican administrations and somehow made it through. The entire scenario...."once kids leave the hobby its doomed " is rubbish.....many hobbies continue and grow as people hit maturity rather than having to be started as kids. Much of todays offerings are geared towards older audiences, and yes its a shift from your childhood spent reading boxes of comics you kept thrown in a huge cardboard box under the bunk beds .The demographics in any market shift, it happens. If the industry adapts it continues and if not adios.... The idea nothing new is being introduced and no new original heroes have been added worth of consideration is another gloom and doom silliness...ever hear of the walking dead? How about a dozen other concepts that have hit the comic book store shelves first and then found themselves in the mainstream...….. It is true tomorrows comic book collecting and its offerings might be quite different than todays but I somehow doubt you will see anything ending anytime soon. Look at an Overstret at how comics looked back before the 30's and even back into the late 1800's …...I am sure those people who collected that form also were sure the sky was falling as along came new things like superman and batman and gosh...a red white and blue patriot that fights Nazis.... Then look at the wave of characters that came in the seventies...punisher, wolverine, and then later still Lobo...the industry evolves, it changes, it flows into new things. It isn't essential children drop their allowance into the coffers, kids don't collect guns, or many other things but those hobbies also thrive. |
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| @darseid_of_town, so am I to believe that you can convince adults that have never read comics into the fold, I doubt that very much. no children no comics sales. You know I am being felicitous, right? but at the same time I am also serious if there are no new customers then the business model dies. this doesn't mean that comics in other formats (broadcast, internet) wont be around for a long time but I think the printed media is in serious trouble. you might be right about "when kids leave the hobby its doomed" being rubbish but what happens if they never come? | ||
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| I remember when eBooks came out and everyone was predicting the end of an era for the traditional paperback. Guess what, after the initial effect, eBooks are slowing down and paperbacks are on the rise. The last two years have been this way. The paperback got hit, but it's still here and it's coming back. Comic books already have digital, so I don't see that overtaking paper comics either. IMO, there is something visceral about holding paper, smelling the ink and reading the typeset. It satisfies a part of our human nature to be presented information this way. Just like newspapers aren't going anywhere soon, neither is the comic book. |
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| @jesse_0, I lived in L.A. many years and still live nearby, many, many newspapers that i grew up with no longer exist. Huge newspapers like The Herald Examiner, Press enterprise and many that I can't remember. I agree as to the fact that I and many people like the feel of books but I work at a University and there are almost no textbooks being used all e-books. 1 entire floor of our regular library has been emptied of books and is now a giant lounge, our law library has removed 50% of its books (1 out of two floors) and is now a glorified study lounge. My experience is first hand, youth today don't care about the printed media. | ||
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| @sportshort Yet there are still newspapers around. When a new medium is introduced, the old will suffer. But this is not 8 track vs cds. You only receive information through your ears for either one of those. But people like the look and feel of vinyl lps. So guess what, vinyl lps of new music is being produced. As for the youth, I have no worries. All four of my kids and my one daughter in law are all readers and they all prefer paper. When I've asked them, very few of their friends prefer ebooks or digital when it comes to recreational reading. Instruction and text books, those they like electronic, but not their mysteries, romance or fantasies. It's all about what pleases our senses. If you could make a comic book that had food with it, you'd have a guaranteed money maker!!!! |
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| @sportshort I did not start reading or collecting until I was 30. Read Sandman, was hooked, and continued exploring the medium. I agree I am unlikely to be a common case; however, it would not surprise me either. The graphic novel has gained greater appreciation as a serious storytelling medium and anyone who truly loves to read and is continuously hungry for new stories, concepts, and characters will almost certainly venture into the graphic novel realm at some point. Continued utilization of the source material in entertainment only serves to further broaden the potential base of individuals willing to read a comic, that otherwise may not have given it a second thought, especially given the advance into a digital medium now. And to echo @Darkseid_of_town point, everything is cyclical and we can often be blinded to the appreciation for a new character, a renewed genre, etc by our own nostalgic bias. Everyone hated the SNL class of the 90s that followed the legendary early cast, and yet the likes of Chris Farely, David Spade, Sandler, etc constitute a classic period in SNL history. Bit off topic, but I always liked it as an example. The print medium will always be around and cycle back, much like vinyl, etc. |
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| @Jesse_O, of course your speaking from your experiences and I appreciate that (cause what else do we have) but mine are very different, I didn't mention that the the powers that be are considering eliminating books from another floor of the regular library, that would be 2 out of 4 floors with no books. In this case I hope I'm wrong, but I can't ignore what my eyes see. P.S. I think I've mentioned this before but I appreciate everyone on these forums' insights. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Jesse_O Don't get me wrong, I love reading comics on my kindle, but I'm with you. The tactile sensation of holding a comic, or the musty smell of a golden age or silver age comic, is definitely part of the experience. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by JabberwookieI myself agree it is part of the experience, but it isn't necessarily part of the next generations....each generation holds a new set of memories that will be quite different from the next. WHile you treasure the old musty books with their inky smells (and I am equally as guilty) the next generation might know an entirely different experience that is not wrong, just different |
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| I don't think this industry is sitting on the edge of a morass triggered by the fact kids don't enter the hobby. I know dozens of adults who have seen one of the past 22 movies and come to me at work wanting to reaserch and buy some comics of whatever story or character and asked where to start because when they were a kid they only did archies, or DC or had no comics. I see it all around me daily with my co workers. These are adults, who did not do comics as a thing before but got sucked in by the theater or even the toys out there..be it legends figures, or even Funko pops. It doesn't matter if kids leave or never come, the industry and the hobby will adapt and keep on with what its doing..or it might adjust and find some method to draw them back in. Regardless, it is likely to adapt, regardless if that is to a different demographic or a different method, or audience. There are entire hobbies out there that continue growing and do not require children...or where they are not a necessary component. | ||
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| @sportshort it's all good, we each are sharing our experiences. I guess what I'm trying to say is that we all have 5 senses: hearing, sight, smell, touch and taste. It's my belief that if you find something that stimulates and brings pleasure to three or more of those senses, the stronger the desire is for it. I'm saying it is hardwired into us. Let's look at lps vs cds. In a lot of respects they are alike. And many people do choose cds over lps. But if you look at the lp collector, what do they talk about? First off is sound. Lps have a quality of sound that cds cannot match. Next is the eye appeal. They like the album covers and sleeves. They like the art and all the information that is contained on them. They also like the feel of a lp. Vinyl records just have a different feel than cds. Whether it is the weight, size or material, I don't know. But touching and handling a lp is a drawing factor. Have you ever had someone show you their new album? They present it like a showcase girl on the Price is Right!!! No one does that with cds. But because lps satisfy those three senses to a large enough group of people. lps are still being made. I just feel confident that comic books are along the vein as a lp. |
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| @Jesse_O, I 100% agree. I loved my kindle when i first got it. now I don't touch it and only read printed matter and I like LP's to boot (but i don't have a record player). but you have to remember that LP's almost disappeared of the face of the earth a few years ago. it's just a current resurgence in popularity that has brought them back. I don't think Marvel nor DC could survive a similar situation. but indies might be able to survive and maybe thrive. we'll see. believe me I hoping they continue forever. although DC gives me reason to worry. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by sportshortI never bought 4-10 comic books a week as a kid .. i didn't buy that in a month .. in honesty I initially didn't buy that many in a year But, what I did get in a year I read from cover to cover , over and over again until the pages fell apart and then when I got to my teenage years with my first job I could afford to get a monthly pull of 2 books a month .. now as an adult I buy my 10-15 books a month plus and love it Kids don't need to buy piles of books to get a lifelong interest in the hobby .. |
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| we all speak from our experiences, i guess I was lucky I would get a dollar a week and spend it on comics. since they were a quarter each I got 4 on the average but I can't/won't give my 10 year old 16 to 20 dollars dollars for comics (that'd be crazy) like i used to buy. I am only guessing at what the future holds and hoping for the best I don't know what reality is just like nobody on this forum does but this is what I see and how I understand things to be or appear to be. I never thought of 4 comics as a pile but everything is perspective. | ||
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| At the end of the day reading books with awesome art is a universally appealing way to spend downtime for a great many people I just can't see that changing.. even my young kids will some times choose reading a picture book over playing with an iPad when they have the choice.. We just are geared to enjoy lying back and reading the medium .. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Darkseid_of_town This is what I see also. About 10 years ago the local convention dealers starting mentioning anecdotes of random "non-collectors" who would come for the cos-play or other reasons and easily drop hundreds or thousands of dollars on a single first appearance they were interested in (wolverine, Hawkeye, Sabretooth, Deadpool, rocket, Harley Quinn, Spawn, etc) now it's so commonplace that they don't even need to mention it anymore. |
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