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| Here's what I think: Do y'all remember ASM #796? Alex Ross cover - beautiful - and it was shorted all up and down the east coast. That caused it to immediately jump to $20-$30 on eBay. And that shortage goosed demand for the whole Red Goblin storyline, leading up to a shit-ton of variants for issue #800. Whether Marvel shorted #796 by accident or on purpose doesn't really matter ... I think they learned how effective it is for motivating short-term sales spikes and buzz. Now we have Powers of X and House of X. I've ordered a couple copies of each, but I just picked the covers I liked. (I haven't read it yet, but I've heard good things, so I look forward to that.) But even though I ordered WELL in advance - before FOC, even, for most of those covers - I was shorted some. I was shorted because Atomic Empire was shorted. And I talked to the owner of my LCS, and he said his orders were short, too, on some of those. Especially issues #3. On issue #3 you have this weird situation where the A covers are actually harder to get than the 1:10 RI's. Crazy. So what I think happened is, Marvel is still experimenting - with Diamond's help - on strategically shorting some comics and spiking demand for key events. I think they did that with the early issues of House and Powers. (Not #1's, which had plenty of variants, but #2's and #3's.) I also think, if you have a bunch of copies and variants of these - and I have a moderate amount - you should sell them sooner rather than later. I'm going to send a shipment for grading fast-track on Monday, and cash in quickly (I hope!) I don't know if it started with ASM 796 or if they've been doing this crap for years, but no other explanation really makes sense to me regarding the chronic shortages. How can printers keep messing that up? How could Diamond? Is it connected to the cheap paper and printing Marvel's been using for the last few years? Not sure. Anyway, maybe I'm just paranoid. Doesn't matter that much. Whether artificial, accidental, or just today's environment of Flash in the Pan collecting, I don't think prices will stay elevated for long on these, no matter HOW good the story is. I just looked ... ASM 796 graded 9.8 you can buy right now for about $50 shipped. Another sold on eBay at auction recently, went for barely over $30 shipped. Not a great long-term hold, that one. So I'm getting out very soon. I look forward to reading the trade edition in a couple months. And I might pick one favorite cover to keep. We'll see.  |
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 I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers).Splotches is gettin old! |
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| I keep an 8.5 x 11 sheet of paper right here next to my computer. It contains every new comic I want, but refuse to give into FOMO for. In fact, if you wait (about a year), you can get the comic for what you want to pay for it. Stay away from FOMO. List the books on a sheet of paper or electronic device you want and just wait. 95% will come down to the appropriate level. Don't buy when every FOMO nut "has to have it" and prices are elevated. It works |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Nuffsaid111 I think this is both awesome and hilarious. It's awesome because someone was actually organized enough to test this theory and keep track of it, and share the results with us. And it's hilarious because: keeping a written piece of paper? NEXT to your computer? That's so analog. If only we had some sort of machine, built for easily storing data... |
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 I hear their hourly rate is outrageous!
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| @Tedsaid “If only we had some sort of machine, built for easily storing data...” That sounds like witchcraft to me. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Nuffsaid111 My friend does this. He says if its a hot book or a variant he waits 8 months to a year before getting it. He said there might be one out of 20 that will hold its value. I wanted the Joe Mad variant of House of X #1. He told me to wait because he said I can probably get it for 20 bucks of less at the Heroes Con next year. I was at a small con a few months ago and they had about 4 long boxes of variants. Most of those were 5 bucks each and i looked at some that I paid over 30 bucks for not even a year ago. He makes a list of what he would pay for the book when it comes out and then what he pays for it months later. He said that he saved over a grand doing it this way. I just started doing this. |
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| Variants are such a scam. Vast majority seem to not have any staying power. There are always exceptions, however. | ||
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 He sounds like a vegan who wants real mayonnaise to be vegan friendly.
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Quote:Originally Posted by sportshort If that is the case, we must do the olde test. We shall force the accused to read Rob Liefeld's share of Marvel's Heroes Reborn. If the accused retains their sanity, then they are indeed a witch and will be punished. If they die from the madness it can cause, then they are indeed innocent. And they will be greeted by all their favorite deceased comic creators in Heaven Comic-Con's Hall H. |
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I hear their hourly rate is outrageous!
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sportshort private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Instant_Subtitles hmm... I like where you're going with this but it think you got the last bit wrong because as I recall Hall H is so crowded it's more like hell. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Studley_Dudley Bingo. Maybe one out of 50 or 100 will keep its value. The only two I can think of off the top of my head that seriously outstrip the "regular" cover value-wise are Edge of Spider-Verse #2 and Gotham City Sirens #1. |
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infinityG private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @CatCovers agreed. Or a 1st appearance could help it ala Thanos #13 | ||
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| I know there are ton of speculators out there, but I want house and powers of x because I loved the X-men as a kid. I’d love to see them return to glory. I have kind of a wacky theory that the X-men aren’t popular right now because our society has gotten very conformist, and misfits are not as celebrated. |
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| X-men got me started in comics and when I came back a couple years ago, they were in rough shape. I refused to buy any modern x-men titles. I was excited about the reboot and enjoy it so far. I will continue picking up some titles. I think I will just go with preorders now. Past year I have been chasing the weekly hot book. With online stores jacking up the prices on day one, I am going to stop doing that. Not on my pull list, I will not pay over coblver if I miss the book. Love the discounts from pre-ordering though. | ||
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I hear their hourly rate is outrageous!
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sportshort private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by moodswing I think I like your philosophy, I will also not pay over cover and wait it out as others have suggested regarding the current hot books and see if i can pick them up at or near cover price a year or so later. |
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| I have been buying most of it at cover or slightly over, and only paying more when it was a limited artwork cover within my price vs binge point ( ie the white queen covers) On new books I am pretty much already there at give me a cover price copy or I can do without, exception being some superb artwork cover I really want stand alone, regardless the comic |
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| Was going to pick up Absolute Carnage 3 with the new character cover....price $9...f-that. Getting real sick of this crap. I would preorder but you have to preorder before you know what the fn cover looks like. | ||
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He sounds like a vegan who wants real mayonnaise to be vegan friendly.
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Quote:Originally Posted by sportshort You're thinking of Hell H. Different place. It's like Hall H but everybody and everything looks like a Rob Liefeld remake of everything both Frank Miller and Alan Moore created while it is supervised by Dan DiDio's evil twin. Heavan's Hall H is the comic book convention equivalent of Valhalla, with AC units built into the chairs.   |
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Quote:Originally Posted by CatCovers Take a look at what's happening with the ultra hot in July, but now warm TMNT #95. Prices are starting to decline. Even the SDCC variant has started to decline in price. I think the only one that will hold value is the black and white Montreal. Why? It never really got priced about $60-70.00. People never knew it was out there and not that many of the 250 printed copies made it on to eBay. I could be wrong though. |
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 Pictures? We don't need no stinking pictures.
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| Pretty much everything said is why I rarely buy any new comics and have probably only placed 5 or 6 pre-orders in the past year. New comics with the hype and overpopulation of variants and gimmicks are what has and still IS killing the industry. It's amazing that lessons have still never been learned and when the crash actually does come in a lasting form (or DOOM!) the industry and the suckers who still fuel it will look back and think "WTF was I thinking??". Do we actually need yet another 100th attempt to reboot the X-Men? And if the short termed hype on X-Men catches on expect around 15 monthly X-titles per month, including multiple one-shots/mini-series, events, etc. In other words...been there, done that, same old tired crap just nicely repackaged until the next reboot in 3 or 4 years. I will pass. | ||
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| Ha...this thread is back from the dead. So I'm actually caught up on house of x and have enjoyed it...but after 2 successful series I just saw they are relaunching xforce, xmen, fallen Angel's, new mutants, excalibur. So they just don't learn. I'd buy 1 xmen book, maybe 2...I don't need 5. | ||
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Pictures? We don't need no stinking pictures.
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brysb private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I would think 4 monthly titles would be enough... Uncanny X-Men New Mutants (?) Wolverine Deadpool Same with Batman... Batman Detective Comics Batman Family (featuring Nightwing, Batgirl, Batwoman, Robin, etc. solo stories) World's Finest (Batman & Superman) By NOT overpopulating the market with too many X-Men & Bat-books it opens up the buyers pocketbooks to explore and collect other titles. It's a pretty simple concept. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by brysb Bingo bang-o. When I started reading new comics again, I hesitated to find anything, partly (or mostly) because there are too many titles to choose from. I bought some #1s (Captain America, Green Lantern, among others) but you can't just gauge how good a series might be off of 1 issue. I bought the first 10 of both Iron Man and Amazing Spider-Man, and they both flopped for me. How many series can I afford to waste money on? Now, granted, those are all A-list legacy characters but that's why I chose those titles over anything else. How am I supposed to get into other titles that I might otherwise gravitate away from? Over-saturation of titles, stupid variants, and needless one-offs being canceled would be great for the hobby IMO. Consolidate your good artists and good writers, Marvel! Potential is there, you just need to pair-up the right people. |
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| Was just over at MCS looking at the slabbed books from the two series' and I am fairly stunned at the prices even some of the regular non variant covers are being posted for...reminds me of the early Immortal Hulk days . Anyone else notice this? | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Darkseid_of_town Are they that crazy? I’ve got the full run of both, so score for me! If you or anyone needs house of x 3, I’ve got a spare for some reason. I’ll sell or trade. Nothing crazy. Cover price. |
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| Be careful giving them away, apparently if you hang on for a few more weeks you can trade entire sets for an amazing spider man 129, two collector mugs, someones first born grandchild, and a used Ford Taurus with a MAGA bumper sticker! | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Darkseid_of_town Yeah, one of those things I wouldn't take for a million dollars... But, I'm not buying that hype. Although, it's a solid story, and storylines can sometimes drive books to be popular down the road. I'll keep my run, but I have no problem giving up the extra for cost, if someone needs it. I'd heard the popularity took people by surprise? |
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| think most people are just so done with continuity resets | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Darkseid_of_town Heh ... no, that was me - most of those are my copies. I'm pricing them now, and don't have any sense of the market yet. There just aren't enough sales of graded versions. So most are too high, some even way too high. But it's hard to tell which ones will pop. For example, just yesterday a matched set of the Putri covers for House of X #2 and Powers of X #2 sold on eBay for $350.00. The Asrar connecting set is also very hard to find - a set of these sold for something close to $300. Most of these House and Power books aren't even offered yet graded. And there are a few in the next auction, I'm trying not to undermine those. But yeah, the prices will come down in the coming weeks, most likely. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Darkseid_of_town In all fairness, X-Men needed a reset pretty badly. The continuity got so screwed up over the years. I'm not even sure Hickman fixed it, or can. Speaking of Hickman... I didn't realize it at first but he's kind of formulaic. Professor X walks around with Cerebro on his head all the time, just like the maker (Reed Richards.) There's a garden. Mars in the Avengers. And the villains aren't completely villains. Yeah, I'm not so sure I'm sold on this now. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Towmater Never got tmnt 95 Shops sold out. Think I may snag a cheap copy next year during the comic Con circuit |
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| @Jabberwookie Thats a good point. The Maker and Prof X look very similar. I just wrapped up reading both series. I definitely liked it. |
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