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Rock, Paper, Scissors, Lizard, Spock Tedsaid private msg quote post Address this user
Here's what I think:

Do y'all remember ASM #796? Alex Ross cover - beautiful - and it was shorted all up and down the east coast. That caused it to immediately jump to $20-$30 on eBay. And that shortage goosed demand for the whole Red Goblin storyline, leading up to a shit-ton of variants for issue #800.

Whether Marvel shorted #796 by accident or on purpose doesn't really matter ... I think they learned how effective it is for motivating short-term sales spikes and buzz.

Now we have Powers of X and House of X. I've ordered a couple copies of each, but I just picked the covers I liked. (I haven't read it yet, but I've heard good things, so I look forward to that.) But even though I ordered WELL in advance - before FOC, even, for most of those covers - I was shorted some. I was shorted because Atomic Empire was shorted. And I talked to the owner of my LCS, and he said his orders were short, too, on some of those. Especially issues #3. On issue #3 you have this weird situation where the A covers are actually harder to get than the 1:10 RI's. Crazy.

So what I think happened is, Marvel is still experimenting - with Diamond's help - on strategically shorting some comics and spiking demand for key events. I think they did that with the early issues of House and Powers. (Not #1's, which had plenty of variants, but #2's and #3's.) I also think, if you have a bunch of copies and variants of these - and I have a moderate amount - you should sell them sooner rather than later. I'm going to send a shipment for grading fast-track on Monday, and cash in quickly (I hope!)

I don't know if it started with ASM 796 or if they've been doing this crap for years, but no other explanation really makes sense to me regarding the chronic shortages. How can printers keep messing that up? How could Diamond? Is it connected to the cheap paper and printing Marvel's been using for the last few years? Not sure.

Anyway, maybe I'm just paranoid. Doesn't matter that much. Whether artificial, accidental, or just today's environment of Flash in the Pan collecting, I don't think prices will stay elevated for long on these, no matter HOW good the story is. I just looked ... ASM 796 graded 9.8 you can buy right now for about $50 shipped. Another sold on eBay at auction recently, went for barely over $30 shipped. Not a great long-term hold, that one.

So I'm getting out very soon. I look forward to reading the trade edition in a couple months. And I might pick one favorite cover to keep. We'll see.



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Collector Nuffsaid111 private msg quote post Address this user
I keep an 8.5 x 11 sheet of paper right here next to my computer. It contains every new comic I want, but refuse to give into FOMO for. In fact, if you wait (about a year), you can get the comic for what you want to pay for it.
Stay away from FOMO. List the books on a sheet of paper or electronic device you want and just wait. 95% will come down to the appropriate level. Don't buy when every FOMO nut "has to have it" and prices are elevated.

It works
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I keep an 8.5 x 11 sheet of paper right here next to my computer. It contains every new comic I want, but refuse to give into FOMO for. In fact, if you wait (about a year), you can get the comic for what you want to pay for it.
Stay away from FOMO. List the books on a sheet of paper or electronic device you want and just wait. 95% will come down to the appropriate level. Don't buy when every FOMO nut "has to have it" and prices are elevated.

It works

I think this is both awesome and hilarious. It's awesome because someone was actually organized enough to test this theory and keep track of it, and share the results with us. And it's hilarious because: keeping a written piece of paper? NEXT to your computer? That's so analog.

If only we had some sort of machine, built for easily storing data...
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Collector sportshort private msg quote post Address this user
@Tedsaid “If only we had some sort of machine, built for easily storing data...”

That sounds like witchcraft to me.
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Originally Posted by Nuffsaid111
I keep an 8.5 x 11 sheet of paper right here next to my computer. It contains every new comic I want, but refuse to give into FOMO for. In fact, if you wait (about a year), you can get the comic for what you want to pay for it.
Stay away from FOMO. List the books on a sheet of paper or electronic device you want and just wait. 95% will come down to the appropriate level. Don't buy when every FOMO nut "has to have it" and prices are elevated.

It works


My friend does this. He says if its a hot book or a variant he waits 8 months to a year before getting it. He said there might be one out of 20 that will hold its value. I wanted the Joe Mad variant of House of X #1. He told me to wait because he said I can probably get it for 20 bucks of less at the Heroes Con next year. I was at a small con a few months ago and they had about 4 long boxes of variants. Most of those were 5 bucks each and i looked at some that I paid over 30 bucks for not even a year ago. He makes a list of what he would pay for the book when it comes out and then what he pays for it months later. He said that he saved over a grand doing it this way. I just started doing this.
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Variants are such a scam. Vast majority seem to not have any staying power. There are always exceptions, however.
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@Tedsaid “If only we had some sort of machine, built for easily storing data...”

That sounds like witchcraft to me.


If that is the case, we must do the olde test. We shall force the accused to read Rob Liefeld's share of Marvel's Heroes Reborn. If the accused retains their sanity, then they are indeed a witch and will be punished. If they die from the madness it can cause, then they are indeed innocent. And they will be greeted by all their favorite deceased comic creators in Heaven Comic-Con's Hall H.
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@Tedsaid “If only we had some sort of machine, built for easily storing data...”

That sounds like witchcraft to me.


If that is the case, we must do the olde test. We shall force the accused to read Rob Liefeld's share of Marvel's Heroes Reborn. If the accused retains their sanity, then they are indeed a witch and will be punished. If they die from the madness it can cause, then they are indeed innocent. And they will be greeted by all their favorite deceased comic creators in Heaven Comic-Con's Hall H.


hmm... I like where you're going with this but it think you got the last bit wrong because as I recall Hall H is so crowded it's more like hell.
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Variants are such a scam. Vast majority seem to not have any staying power. There are always exceptions, however.


Bingo. Maybe one out of 50 or 100 will keep its value. The only two I can think of off the top of my head that seriously outstrip the "regular" cover value-wise are Edge of Spider-Verse #2 and Gotham City Sirens #1.
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Collector infinityG private msg quote post Address this user
@CatCovers agreed. Or a 1st appearance could help it ala Thanos #13
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Collector Jabberwookie private msg quote post Address this user
I know there are ton of speculators out there, but I want house and powers of x because I loved the X-men as a kid.

I’d love to see them return to glory.

I have kind of a wacky theory that the X-men aren’t popular right now because our society has gotten very conformist, and misfits are not as celebrated.
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Collector moodswing private msg quote post Address this user
X-men got me started in comics and when I came back a couple years ago, they were in rough shape. I refused to buy any modern x-men titles. I was excited about the reboot and enjoy it so far. I will continue picking up some titles. I think I will just go with preorders now. Past year I have been chasing the weekly hot book. With online stores jacking up the prices on day one, I am going to stop doing that. Not on my pull list, I will not pay over coblver if I miss the book. Love the discounts from pre-ordering though.
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X-men got me started in comics and when I came back a couple years ago, they were in rough shape. I refused to buy any modern x-men titles. I was excited about the reboot and enjoy it so far. I will continue picking up some titles. I think I will just go with preorders now. Past year I have been chasing the weekly hot book. With online stores jacking up the prices on day one, I am going to stop doing that. Not on my pull list, I will not pay over coblver if I miss the book. Love the discounts from pre-ordering though.


I think I like your philosophy, I will also not pay over cover and wait it out as others have suggested regarding the current hot books and see if i can pick them up at or near cover price a year or so later.
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Collector Darkseid_of_town private msg quote post Address this user
I have been buying most of it at cover or slightly over, and only paying more when it was a limited artwork cover within my price vs binge point ( ie the white queen covers)

On new books I am pretty much already there at give me a cover price copy or I can do without, exception being some superb artwork cover I really want stand alone, regardless the comic
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Collector moodswing private msg quote post Address this user
Was going to pick up Absolute Carnage 3 with the new character cover....price $9...f-that. Getting real sick of this crap. I would preorder but you have to preorder before you know what the fn cover looks like.
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@Tedsaid “If only we had some sort of machine, built for easily storing data...”

That sounds like witchcraft to me.


If that is the case, we must do the olde test. We shall force the accused to read Rob Liefeld's share of Marvel's Heroes Reborn. If the accused retains their sanity, then they are indeed a witch and will be punished. If they die from the madness it can cause, then they are indeed innocent. And they will be greeted by all their favorite deceased comic creators in Heaven Comic-Con's Hall H.


hmm... I like where you're going with this but it think you got the last bit wrong because as I recall Hall H is so crowded it's more like hell.


You're thinking of Hell H. Different place. It's like Hall H but everybody and everything looks like a Rob Liefeld remake of everything both Frank Miller and Alan Moore created while it is supervised by Dan DiDio's evil twin. Heavan's Hall H is the comic book convention equivalent of Valhalla, with AC units built into the chairs.
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Variants are such a scam. Vast majority seem to not have any staying power. There are always exceptions, however.


Bingo. Maybe one out of 50 or 100 will keep its value. The only two I can think of off the top of my head that seriously outstrip the "regular" cover value-wise are Edge of Spider-Verse #2 and Gotham City Sirens #1.


Take a look at what's happening with the ultra hot in July, but now warm TMNT #95. Prices are starting to decline. Even the SDCC variant has started to decline in price. I think the only one that will hold value is the black and white Montreal. Why? It never really got priced about $60-70.00. People never knew it was out there and not that many of the 250 printed copies made it on to eBay. I could be wrong though.
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