CBCS launches New Logo and Brand756
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Quote:Originally Posted by Gaard I disagree with you but I 'liked' your post, because I'm glad to see some people going against the grain here. It takes guts to speak out when you are in the minority. Also, you're wrong.  |
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| There are people asking for a choice as to which label is used. Whether CBCS agrees is another matter, but I think this request is at least fair. It's the ones that are screaming for labels to NOT be changed at all that make me SMH. They feel they're being told what to accept. Perhaps, but isn't demanding that the label be returned to the old style doing the same thing to those who like the new label? I do agree that CBCS probably could have eased this in (so to speak), but tbh they probably new there would never be a unanimous reaction. So what to do? Ignore the customers who want new, or ignore customers who don't? I don't think a poll would necessarily have solved this as I doubt the majority of their customers are forum members CGC: "Holy crap, they're reacting to a label change the way our people reacted to the completely imagined illusions of damage our new case might possibly have displayed, but really didn't." S M H |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Jeremy_K Yes, I saw a post about it on their Facebook page. Stan would like the new label. It fits his generation. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by CatmanAmerica I understand what you are saying but it is just a hard climb for me because it makes you sound like you are collecting the label as much or more than the the comic. I have comics that are on the grading room floor (or perhaps even shipped Friday) and will get the new label and I am nowhere near as emotional as some of the folks in this thread. I much prefer the old label but I am not upset at all about the change because what I paid for is the opinion on the grade. The slab and the information on the label are part of that service but how the label looks isn't a huge deal to me as long as the information is there for people to see. When I buy a graded book I have only ever cared about the book. I have several graded books from CGC, PGA(PGX), and CBCS and their labels have things I like and dislike. They do have what is most important though, information on the book inside. I just can't seem to grasp those of you folks that feel how this information is displayed is critically important. No matter how a label looks it has never distracted me from what is the most important part of a graded comic ... the comic. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Oxbladder I feel everyone reading what you just put would be fine with it as it is your opinion. But if I called you a tool and your point was ridiculous you may not be so receptive to me. Different strokes for different folks. I dislike the label which is personal but CBCS should not have changed it without letting people know who had subbed I mean come on when it comes to collecting people collect buttons, matches, sandals, postcards literally anything. Collecting labels wouldn't be exactly off the chart crazy if someone just bought a CBCS slab for it  |
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| @matterus023 Oh please don't get me wrong, I do not approve of name calling. I am not even saying don't have the opinion you have I am just trying to understand it. I mean I assume like me there are things you like and dislike on the many incarnations of grading labels out there and I assume that has never stopped you from using or buying a graded book you want, or am I wrong in assuming that? | ||
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| Perhaps a better question would be is that if CBCS were to design a new label or retool the new one what would be an acceptable look? Keep in mind there had been criticism of the old label almost from the get go. I know someone posted an example earlier in this thread that has a decent layout but it has some things that I really did not like either (ie colour and the Tiny book title compared to the absolutely massive publisher text). I like plain and unassuming but with enough clear markers that a book is restored, signed, etc without looking at the label. Perhaps part of the problem is that while we all say this and that is bad there wasn't enough clear direction what would please the most people? |
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Quote:Originally Posted by CatmanAmerica I hope I didn't come across as abusive? Matter-of-fact, certainly; but abusive ... no. I even did a follow-up post saying to give the office a ring. If I've come across as abusive .. heck! .. I'm sorry, folks  |
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| @Oxbladder i would guess in my opinion. That cbcs would modify the new label to salvage what they have. If money was spent in developing the label this would be a suitable fix to rectify some of the issues with the coustomer base. At least this is what i would do in a business standpoint. Or to work with the person who presented an alternet label that would work, but to fix some of the issue that majority of coustomer did not like to provide a solid product to the coustomers. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Oxbladder Oh of course like most people I have an opinion on almost anything lol. ''You can't please everyone'' is very apt here but that saying kind of takes away that we have common sense and are aware that when things are done right the majority will agree on things. Or at least not disagree with such severity. You assume right, for me it won't stop me from buying a graded book. But will it make me less keen or in less of a rush to send certain comics in? Yes. This just wasn't a smart move at all imo. The old label for me was washed out but it also had many great qualities. The old logo beats this one HANDS DOWN. Like you said about trying to understand others view points on this label matter I would really have to dig deep to understand those who prefer the new design. I mean I'm not thick I get why some would prefer it as that is just what their brain tells them looks nicer but for me as I have my brain I will never see it. No right or wrong answer though but the majority of opinion rules or should with things like this. I have said before that I would of made the announcement about something else and only slightly changed the old label as an add on comment. Less washed out looking, better quality/thicker paper used and besides that I would have left it where it was. This should of also been mentioned to submitters so they knew of the changes. |
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| Not super excited about the new labels, but it's not the end of the world. Packaging is important to collectors so don't dismiss the people that are upset. CBCS should have held a contest to design a new label and let the community decide. That's how you get buy in from your fan base not alienate them. Looks like they need to hire someone to manage social media community relations. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Frost451 For $50k a year I'm available bahahaha |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Oxbladder Just the opposite, really, but if you collect graded books the label comes along for the ride. I think a well designed label should compliment the book while not drawing attention away from it. The new CBCS label isn't attractive (my opinion) and works against seamless integration into a collection of other graded books. The simple solution would be to provide customers an option. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by matterus023throw in relocation, and lets call it a day. |
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| @Oxbladder, I've made my position known. I don't mind the new label/logo in the least. It has the information on it that I, and future buyers or traders will need. But CBCS could have handled the whole situation much better. To everyone getting nasty with each other, let it go! Realize that we're all entitled to our opinions. There's no need to get ugly with each other. When you do that, you're acting like children. Is that what you want? |
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| @matterus023 thanks for the response. I won't argue with any of it. @CatmanAmerica thanks to you too. That is clear and makes sense. While integration is not that important to me I would say that it is nice to have labels that are mostly continuous. CBCS has tweaked their label over the past few years but not so much as to disrupt continuity. I appreciate that to some this new label is a drastic break from the game plan  |
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| This has just been posted by Kurt Griffis on the Trinity Comics Convention Services and Sketch Opportunities FB group .. >> Someone just got the new slab in hand, and it looks a lot better in person. The darker color of the blue makes it look a lot better. << I have to agree with Kurt. Dang thing looks gorgeous  |
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| My big problem with the video showing the new labels is... Why the heck did you guys put that Defenders 8 in with that crappy mis-wrap come man attention to details. And yeah I'm not going to go out and buy a new label slab to see how they look in hand. I'll have some back quick enough and maybe it would be even be quicker to use my Bronze membership 2 day moderns to get one is hand sooner. | ||
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| I personally love the shield. Strong, bold,trustworthy are the words that come to mind. The whole labei to me looks professional and firm. In MY opinion, anyone who thinks it takes away from the book is mistaken. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by SilverAgeFan I still find it ugly. Some of the negativity was also due to the lengthy build-up of suspense, qith an, at best "meh" ending. CBCS did a better job of announcing the forums a few months ago. Advice for future - let people know what to expect, so they are not let-down. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Marc_1 With all due respect, you calling anyone a drama queen is laughable at best. Physician, heal thyself. |
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| @Mio, earlier in another thread, I addressed how poorly I thought CBCS handled the whole situation. Whether anyone likes the change or not, CBCS failed this time. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by SilverAgeFan For me they still have chance to rectify their obvious mistake. We all make them, even ones that to others are glaringly obvious and foreseeable. So regardless of the look of the label (as this is purely subjective) all they need to simply do imo is accept it was an oversight of not letting subbmitters know the change and act accordingly. This would be absolutely fine for me. What you think @SilverAgeFan ? |
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Quote:Originally Posted by DertyComix I actually made the decision to go into comics full time a couple of months ago. Will take me a while to find my feet (if I don't, back to plastering for me  )Dream job would be to work for a reputable company such as CBCS. So here it is me putting it all on the line. CBCS hire me please bahahaha |
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Quote:Originally Posted by SilverAgeFan I respect your right to an opinion even if it is only informed by a single book. The industrialized design just doesn't do it for me. I don't care for the grade font at all. And if there's color coding for restored books (PLOD rivet border) then there's no way I can support it. The shield alteration is fine. I'm not in opposition to modification of the shield emblem. That's a compromise to which I could easily accede. It comes down to how well labels fit into a collection of other graded books. That's how I assess the final result. It isn't about the holder or the grading, those services fully trusted. |
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| I think the 24 hour vacation was a bit harsh. Really disapointed CBCS. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by DarthLego ? So you were put on the naughty step for a day? |
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