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The fact that Stan passed in Nov 189800

Collector JustThatGuy private msg quote post Address this user
and this book came out in 2019.






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Collector DWeeB1967 private msg quote post Address this user
Yuck.
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COLLECTOR dielinfinite private msg quote post Address this user
@JustThatGuy And that it has three bids
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Collector Bronte private msg quote post Address this user
Does anyone actually report these folks? Or is it a nothing you can do type thing?

He has like 3 more books for sale. Looks like same style signature
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COLLECTOR dielinfinite private msg quote post Address this user
Okay, I’m not endorsing it as genuine but unless it’s a variant, that is not the 2019 Facsimile edition.

The facsimile edition has a $3.99 cover price and has a barcode in the bottom right corner




EDIT: Close as I can tell it is the German Facsimile edition, still 2019 though. Someone should ask for a picture of the inside and see how he responds


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Collector JustThatGuy private msg quote post Address this user
@dielinfinite Thats what i thought i paid. thanks for clarifying.
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COLLECTOR drchaos private msg quote post Address this user
@dielinfinite It could also be the Hasbro reprint.

The following link has a full list of reprints with pictures:

Und Jetzt…Wolverine: Collecting the Hulk 181 Reprints
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Originally Posted by Bronte
Does anyone actually report these folks? Or is it a nothing you can do type thing?

He has like 3 more books for sale. Looks like same style signature
Those are probably fake gold chains and fake Michael Jordan sneakers he’s selling, too
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Collector JustThatGuy private msg quote post Address this user
Hasbro reprint has a black border around it and the True Believers has that on the top. The only thing I can think of is this is an actual reprint of the image of the real cover.
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Collector Darkseid_of_town private msg quote post Address this user
Well being fair he doesn't say Stan signed it, only that he somehow singed it. And give him props, it actually comes with a real bag and even a board
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Collector Darkseid_of_town private msg quote post Address this user
another of his listings...think hard about this one...


https://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Forever-People-3-Jun-Jul-1971-DC-Signed-By-Stan-Lee/392376196388?hash=item5b5b719d24:g:BBwAAOSwX~9dTg1z


WHy would Stan lee sign a DC fourth worlds book done by Jack Kirby?
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Collector Darkseid_of_town private msg quote post Address this user
the guy is also offering a book supposedly signed by both Jack and Stan and I can tell that Kirby is a fake...yikes.
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COLLECTOR dielinfinite private msg quote post Address this user
@drchaos @JustThatGuy I think it just might be something printed up at Kinko’s because even the German editions say
“Und jetzt…Wolverine” on the cover and I’m not aware of any reprint that looks like this.

So not only is it likely a fake signature, but it could be a fake comic
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Collector BrashSmurf private msg quote post Address this user
can't the seller be reported?
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Collector JustThatGuy private msg quote post Address this user
I looked at those shots again and on the 2nd shot, there is a bit of overhang on the front and the back cover. I’ll ask him for a shot of an interior page.
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Collector ONLINE_209 private msg quote post Address this user
It says "Singed by Stan Lee." Does that mean Stan Lee signed it with a hot pen lol
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Collector Darkseid_of_town private msg quote post Address this user
I reported the Forever people book from DC he has signed by Stan lee...isn't a way in this world
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Collector Drogio private msg quote post Address this user
It’s gotta be a reproduction cover. Here’s a similar cover...

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Collector Instant_Subtitles private msg quote post Address this user
To be honest, this is one of a few reasons why I am thinking of shutting down my eBay account. It's already hard not knowing what you are buying is exactly what they say it is. But this? I'd rather do honest business with any CBCS forum banned self-entitled egomaniacs than make a bid on something like this.

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can't the seller be reported?


Yes, and the seller should since there is a no chance that these were prepared for him to sign last year.
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To be honest, this is one of a few reasons why I am thinking of shutting down my eBay account. It's already hard not knowing what you are buying is exactly what they say it is. But this? I'd rather do honest business with any CBCS forum banned self-entitled egomaniacs than make a bid on something like this.

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can't the seller be reported?


Yes, and the seller should since there is a no chance that these were prepared for him to sign last year.
You can shut down an ebay account?

I got the books i was chasing NM98, ASM300 and ASM361. didn't know you can deactivate it
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Collector Darkseid_of_town private msg quote post Address this user
easy way to deactivate an ebay account, don't use it
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@drchaos @JustThatGuy I think it just might be something printed up at Kinko’s because even the German editions say
“Und jetzt…Wolverine” on the cover and I’m not aware of any reprint that looks like this.

So not only is it likely a fake signature, but it could be a fake comic


You are correct on all points.

I posted the link just before I went to bed.

At a glance last night both the German and Hasbro covers seemed roughly identical to the original since I wasn't looking closely.
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Collector etapi65 private msg quote post Address this user
I went to report this and it says
"The item in this listing is an authentic pre-printed autograph in the Autographs-Original categories."

What does pre-printed autograph mean?
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the guy is also offering a book supposedly signed by both Jack and Stan and I can tell that Kirby is a fake...yikes.

The Jack Kirby signature looks real to me. Why do you think it is fake?
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Collector esaravo private msg quote post Address this user
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I went to report this and it says
"The item in this listing is an authentic pre-printed autograph in the Autographs-Original categories."

What does pre-printed autograph mean?


Case solved. Based on that description, I would bet it’s a color copy of a genuine signed Hulk #181. Someone had a signed copy so they made a color copy (probably several copies). If it sells, you can bet more will magically appear for sale on this guy’s ebay site.
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the guy is also offering a book supposedly signed by both Jack and Stan and I can tell that Kirby is a fake...yikes.

The Jack Kirby signature looks real to me. Why do you think it is fake?


Just giving my opinion but here is what I am working with...My signature was vintage mid eighties, and while it remains unauthenticated does appear genuine given context, many expert opinions, and comparisons to multiple examples .Look at the differences in every letter, look, arch and action.



First up is the sellers example....from the bottom of the page of the book.Second is my own copy that I have high confidence is legitimate.


Placed alongside one another it is obvious they are signed by two different people,given the structure of the letters. Compare the K in Kirby, the and the Y for instance....let alone the small letters in the first name etc.

To my eyes they look completely different, so two possible answers...mine or the specimen with 32 bids and being sold is not right
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Collector etapi65 private msg quote post Address this user
Every Kirby signature I've seen the lowercase b does not directly connect to the y. from the way he writes his "b" he almost prints a "u" between the "b" and the "y". Every, single, version of a kirby signature has this in common. The embellished K and J do vary, though the example you have seems much more common than the "K" in Kirby that doesn't crosses the vertical line. Also, the "k" on the end of Jack is completely off compared to every, verified sig example I can find. The Stan Lee sig also has considerable problems and is identical on all their "stan lee" signed. The only conclusion is these are all forged. By the seller, or the seller got taken; who knows. But the seller is responsible for what they put on ebay and the claims they're making.
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Case solved. Based on that description, I would bet it’s a color copy of a genuine signed Hulk #181. Someone had a signed copy so they made a color copy (probably several copies). If it sells, you can bet more will magically appear for sale on this guy’s ebay site.


I don't believe so, the actual, written description does not claim the signature is copied...and it's still not Stan's sig. This person has 3 total feedback, all are from the last few months and all are "stan lee" signed items. It's a scam, I feel for the people buying these auctions.
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Rock, Paper, Scissors, Lizard, Spock Tedsaid private msg quote post Address this user
I think maybe the superficial differences are fooling you. One's signature can certainly change over the years.

Here are a couple samples from a quick Google search. (Actually, previously posted to the CBCS forum.)


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Every Kirby signature I've seen the lowercase b does not directly connect to the y. from the way he writes his "b" he almost prints a "u" between the "b" and the "y". Every, single, version of a kirby signature has this in common. The embellished K and J do vary, though the example you have seems much more common than the "K" in Kirby that doesn't crosses the vertical line. Also, the "k" on the end of Jack is completely off compared to every, verified sig example I can find. The Stan Lee sig also has considerable problems and is identical on all their "stan lee" signed. The only conclusion is these are all forged. By the seller, or the seller got taken; who knows. But the seller is responsible for what they put on ebay and the claims they're making.


I had arrived at the similar conclusion regarding the Stan Lee as well, it also looks...odd. The Kirby for me at least is just no chance, its fake period
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