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 If the viagra is working you should be well over a 9.8.
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| I went to East Coast Comic Con yesterday, pretty much only because George Perez was there. I got there a little late, walking in closer to 3 when it opened at 2. I went straight to the CBCS booth to see what the witness situation was (side note: it was poor) and on my way saw that Perez had a pretty long line. CBCS said that they thought they had capped Perez's line, so I should go talk to them. I went back and they had capped his line but gave me a note that I could come back at 5 and have a spot in line. So I wandered around and went back at 5, when people were still in line from 4 when Perez went on break. Then I stood in line until 6:30, having moved maybe 20 feet, until they said that people weren't going to see him because he had to leave for a panel. I don't blame Perez for the length or speed of the line. While I was wandering around I had to wait a while to get Al Milgrom's signature because he was chatting a lot. The difference is that Al had 10 people in line and Perez had 100. If you weren't in line when the doors opened (like @drchaos), you didn't get to see Perez even after you stood in line for nearly 5 hours. I blame East Coast, or possibly Perez's helpers, for letting that happen. They should have just capped the line immediately and not had people waste all that time, sold separate Perez tickets or had some other kind of system, or at least prioritized people with single day tickets. It was a failure of organization. |
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| @xkonk This year was a mess. From the usual parking situation, to the admittance, to the obvious Perez fiasco Perez's people were clueless. They should have worked better with East Coast about the situation. First Perez's people limited it to 12 comics being signed, but people were getting items in addition to the comics. Then they capped it at 12 comics. Numerous people were requesting they cap the items signed to 6 so that the line would move. Perez's people said 12 was not a lot, obviously not because there was a huge amount of people they turned back. Also if you did not have an exhibitor badge or VIP access, the chances you were getting a Perez signature were pretty slim. The best part was the East Coast Comic Con promoter coming to the Perez line and pandering like he was going to help the situation. The Perez affect definitely had more people attend than past years, but this year it was ridiculously mismanaged. This was my 3rd and last year as well. I will stick to Terrificon, Baltimore, and NYCC. |
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| Al Milgrom was a riot "I remember when I bought my Amazing Fantasy 15 off the newsstand and I would...." Someone in line "you are so lucky" Al "Yea, but I'll be dead sooner" He then continues on about Ditko for another 10mins. Probably inappropriate but I could not help but to laugh when he said "I'll be dead sooner" |
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| I was pondering everything I dislike about Dragon Con and I realized that walking from one hotel to another was high on the list. The second highest frustration is two competing panels at different locations when I wanted to attend both. Then it dawned upon me that large conventions use this for crowd control. They have to disperse the people as much as possible or they'll be violating fire codes for occupancy. I just remember seeing George Perez in about 1981. There were 3 people at his table as he drew a Wolverine sketch for someone. He was telling us about drawing the hairs on Wolverine's body. Too close and they all look like a black blob on his body. Too far apart and it doesn't look like he's hairy. I wouldn't stand in that kind of line for anyone anymore. |
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| Bummer, there's definitely a disconnect between the con organizers and facilitators. The 80 years of Batman event itself was awesome, I really appreciate the creators that were there and the opportunity to get so many sigs and package bonuses in one place. Once we got in the room it seemed to run fairly smoothly, but had some issues as well. I heard from a Mega con person the event was actually a comicsketchart.com event, just happening at Megacon and ticket sales being facilitated by FanExpo. Then neither took a lead on several organizational things. For instance, Thursday, I asked the CBCS guys about it since the ticket said "There are no CBCS or CGC signing fee at these events. All creators will sign books for free if you have an event ticket. CBCS & CGC grading fees do still apply. A CGC/CBCS rep will be in the room at the time of the event to take in your items". First, comicsketchart.com charged you $5.00 per book if you were grading. So, the artists couldn't charge, and CGC/CBCS couldn't charge, but then they took $5.00 a piece from you. This boarders on breach of contract imo; the wording of the ticket insinuated NO extra charges for grading. Then, suddenly you get there and they charged; I wouldn't say they lied, but definite misdirection. Second, no one ever told CBCS they were supposed to be there. A Megacon guy took responsibility, but again, this was a comicsketchart event. So; the first CBCS had heard of it was when I asked, they ended up being there and got some submissions, though I don't know if it was worth it for them (I hope so; I can't stress enough how great the CBCS guys were at this con). Third, Pat Gleason cancelled early, so that was fine. The day of, however, Doug Mahnke couldn't do it, and they replaced him with Mico Suayan. I was at the Mahnke table...and I may have misunderstood, but it sounded like Mr. Mahnke never actually agreed to do it (He was NOT with the comicsketchart.com facilitator group). He had his own package people had bought (organized through Megacon) that included him doing original sketches for each package purchaser. With that, there was no way he could commit what ended up being 4-5 hours to the panel. But...how does that happen? How does his name just get added to something without him agreeing to it (again, maybe I misunderstood, but this is what it sounded like) There's a growing communication issue between the organizers of the cons with the multiple facilitators and it's creating a very frustrating experience for fans who just want a chance to meet the creators, chat with them for a few mins and keep working around the con. I may no longer get sigs from anyone sponsored by comicsketchart. VERY disappointed with several things they did. The creators were great, they took the whole thing in stride and I appreciated them all being there late for us. Greg Capullo is still awesome, James Tynion is extremely sincere,...just, the whole group were great. |
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If the viagra is working you should be well over a 9.8.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Hcanes I didn't even mind the parking. I parked in the expo/Walmart lot and had a short walk. Not a big deal. You're right on about the Perez line though. I talked to @drchaos while he was in line; he got there at 1:55, before doors opened because of his exhibitor badge, and I saw him get his sigs at maybe 6:25. I saw the promoter come through too and almost pulled him aside. "hope you come next year"; what for? Maybe I've been spoiled by the couple cons I've been to in Atlantic City and Philly that were the same size but lightly attended, but that's what I'm going to stick with going forward. |
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| I really wanted to go to the east coast this year, but I guess it is ok I didn't make it. I have heard several complaints. My favorite con in New Jersey- at least since I've lived here was the 2 years the Asbury Park comic con existed. It was no frills, a few panels, and an emphasis on COMICS!!! I went and sat in the Wonder Bar and listened to John Holmstrom tell stories and it was probably my favorite thing I have ever heard at any con(and I went SDCC every year from about 88-2004). I wish there was a way to maintain a medium sized con...something a step up from a local firehouse show- but not something that becomes NYCC | ||
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 I had no way of knowing that 9.8 graded copies signed by Adam Hughes weren't what you were looking for.
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| For a time I always seemed too busy to attend East Coast Comic Con despite its proximity to me. I have been going there for the last three or four years in a row. There were three glaring problems with the event this year: 1. The administration of the George Perez signature line. While most of the blame goes to his handler (did not catch her name), the people in charge of the show were also difficult to deal with. The volunteers and security people were great but they had to follow the poorly thought out and capricious decisions of others. On day one they let the line get way too long before handing out tickets. On days two and three they would tell us when to come back only for us to find out they changed their minds and now the line was capped again. 2. Too many VIP badges were sold and these badges were abused as holders cut into the signature line multiple times to get books signed for their friends. This problem was not fixed until day two leaving many of us had to spend more than four hours on line to get anything signed by George Perez. After the four hours, the window to get any books signed by Denny O'Neil had closed as he was done for the entire weekend. 3. Whoever handled the loudspeaker announcements was loud, hard to understand, and generally annoying. After the total fiasco that was day one I actually had a pretty good experience on Saturday and Sunday. For the weekend I ended up with a total of 24 George Perez signatures (7-8 hours spend on line, mostly on day one). Aside from 8 books for Denny O'Neil everything else got signed. I was very happy to get signatures from Al Milgrom and Val Kilmer who I had never seem before at any show anywhere. Between the lines and not preparing for the show until the last minute (got up 2:45AM night day of show and filled up a short box with books to get signed) I was too tired and sore to spend much time shopping yet I ended up getting some good deals (Spent about $150 on 17 modern variants with three different dealers). My friend who was set up there hooked me up with 19 WD 109 sketch covers and deadly class # 2 at cover price. I picked up a commission from two local artists, got a remark from Joe Rubenstein, and three remarks from Scott Hanna. While I am satisfied with what I was able to get done over the three days, the first day of the show was a horrible experience including the longest line I have waited on at any show for anything. I will probably be back next year. |
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 I'm good with splotches.
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Quote:Originally Posted by drchaos Me too with Kilmer. I've been getting autographs from comic creators since 1985 but have recently gone the route of actors and celebs due to the cost of comic autographs now. Val was a bit of a peculiar experience I'd say for me. |
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I had no way of knowing that 9.8 graded copies signed by Adam Hughes weren't what you were looking for.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Nuffsaid111 I had wanted to meet him for a long time and the signing fee was very reasonable. It seems that Val is in rough shape from what I heard was throat cancer. I hope he pulls through. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by drchaosPretty sure he's in recovery from whatever was wrong with his throat (not sure he ever confirmed it was cancer). He could barely talk when I met him last September, but was in good spirits. |
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I had no way of knowing that 9.8 graded copies signed by Adam Hughes weren't what you were looking for.
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Quote:Originally Posted by xkonk The promoter was an ass hat. When I finally get towards the front of the line only to see yet another VIP cut in the guy shows up expecting a hero's welcome. I think he expected us to greet him as a liberator.  |
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| That Perez line; along with the Starlin line.... were, perhaps, the longest I've even seen in my life as far as "duration in line" goes. Stan had similar, but it used to move. Sam Kieth once in Boston because he didn't show up until later. But as for someone actually being in attendance, Perez line was as awful as ever i've seen. I didn't bother; nor did I bother with Starlin who is now like a rock star due to the Avengers movies. To be upfront - neither surprises me. These are two of the remaining legends in the biz. Both are "retiring" in a sense. Perez from conventions; and Starlin is extremely limited with drawing anymore due to an accident. |
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| Off-topic, but back on the Val Kilmer thing. I bought a Val Kilmer exclusive Pop! (he loves pops and designs his own line) of Doc Holiday. When you bought it (it was not cheap) you got the signature included. So, I went in with the pop for him to sign and he was all "Oh, my GOD, you bought one; that's awesome, hold on a sec" pulls out his cell phone and starts looking for something. "Check this out, took this picture this morning". It's him...laying in a bed with his shirt unbuttoned, wearing the Doc Holiday stache (which his manager said he takes everywhere and sends them joke pics all the time) holding the pop I had just bought. Then he goes "Want me to e-mail it to you? Give me your e-mail". And sent me the pic. Now, I'm not sure if this is a pic I'm supposed to or allowed to share, but it's hysterical. Also, he was right next to Cary Elwes. His line was already going and Cary Elwes had just arrived. When they started grabbing people for Elwes' line a giant cheer rose from those in line. Val Kilmer comes out of his curtained booth acting irritated he didn't get a cheer like that (all in jest). Tries to get a worker to be his "hype lady" for a second, which she didn't do and pretends to kick her out of the area by pulling her behind a curtain and then coming back to a roar of applause. It was all pretty entertaining and I like that he was able to show some personality instead of having handlers forcing him to be aloof and impersonal. (at one point he actually went into Elwes' curtained signing area and was messing around photobombing selfies with Cary as well). |
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If the viagra is working you should be well over a 9.8.
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| @etapi65 That's the kind of thing you want to have happen, and that's why I'm not angry at Perez (or any creator really, I guess as long as they show up on time or make it up). It's up to the organizers to make a situation where people can make it through the line and have a good time. You don't want to make it through the line and have a bad time like the Stan Lee stories, either. | ||
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If the viagra is working you should be well over a 9.8.
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| Good news update: the comics I submitted at the con have been marked as received now. | ||
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| Still in pre-receiving for my submission at Megacon | ||
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| Well, I should say it's in billing. But CBCS has acknowledged that they have my books. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by etapi65 Mine is the same but from east coast, any idea what pre-receiving means? I didn’t see that in previous submissions. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by VenomadeQuote: Originally Posted by Venomade Not sure, I assume it means they know you dropped stuff off, but haven't entered details yet. Mine did update to reflect 5 comics submitted (which it did not have at first). I've also learned not to pay much attention to the dashboard. I've never had one update between received and shipping. When I submitted the TAT was 5 weeks, so I'm not really "worried" about it until week 7. Then I'll start asking questions. I was charged at the con so I expected it to move a little quicker to Texas; who knows. |
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| I got back the books that I dropped off to CBCS at ECCC, but I did 2 books w/2 Day Modern grading. One thing though, I was there early. I was on line when the doors opened at 9am or 10am and I was done with my sigs and drop offs by Noon or so. Why do people think it opened at 2pm? | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by BigRonnie Because it opened at 2pm on Friday. 10am on Sat. and Sun. You could get in 30mins prior with early admittance as well. |
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| Got it, thanks for clarifying. I was there Sat. | ||
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