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Originally Posted by Mef
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Originally Posted by Lonestar
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Originally Posted by Mef
Now, there's half a community here that would rather run different opinions off of the boards as opposed to having that convo of what can be improved and why. I've seen some terrible interactions from this company on social media as well. No customer should ever feel like something is their fault, even if it is!

I can only speak for myself, but I have no intention or inclination of "running off" opinions different from myself from these boards. What I will do and have done is to point out when posters are not being reasonable or acting inappropriately on the boards.

As I've said before, there are ways to get your message out there and across to others without being a complete ###.

If someone wants to make a post stating that they think the mods were too harsh on (fill in the blank) and give reasonable thought out arguments for their case, without resorting to personal attacks, that would be OK by me. And it may actually be a way to start a positive dialog.

But when someone makes a thread with a provocative title and has as the OP a meme of Trump holding a sign saying "Free (fill in the blank)" and nothing else, that does nothing but cause ill will with CBCS and the mods. It's certainly not helpful in any way.

See the difference?

LOL and in this instance of a thread being created, who was hurt? Was it just hurt feelings? Whose feelings were hurt? Both parties?

Is anyone asking why someone would resort to this behavior? Nope. It's easier to ignore!

So we can ban people who don't agree, which is real easy, or we can have a discussion which is work!

Apparently we're taking the easy route, when we should be taking a more difficult road.

See the difference?

One way is helpful, the other way is not.

Originally Posted by Lonestar
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Originally Posted by Mef
Is anyone asking why someone would resort to this behavior? Nope. It's easier to ignore!

Why anyone resorts to this type of behavior baffles me. It quite frankly is unacceptable, at least to me. Do people think because this is a message board about comic books, it is OK to act like that? In any other setting, it would not be tolerated and it should not be here either.

Originally Posted by DocBrown
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Originally Posted by Mef
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Originally Posted by Lonestar
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Originally Posted by Mef
Now, there's half a community here that would rather run different opinions off of the boards as opposed to having that convo of what can be improved and why. I've seen some terrible interactions from this company on social media as well. No customer should ever feel like something is their fault, even if it is!

I can only speak for myself, but I have no intention or inclination of "running off" opinions different from myself from these boards. What I will do and have done is to point out when posters are not being reasonable or acting inappropriately on the boards.

As I've said before, there are ways to get your message out there and across to others without being a complete ###.

If someone wants to make a post stating that they think the mods were too harsh on (fill in the blank) and give reasonable thought out arguments for their case, without resorting to personal attacks, that would be OK by me. And it may actually be a way to start a positive dialog.

But when someone makes a thread with a provocative title and has as the OP a meme of Trump holding a sign saying "Free (fill in the blank)" and nothing else, that does nothing but cause ill will with CBCS and the mods. It's certainly not helpful in any way.

See the difference?

LOL and in this instance of a thread being created, who was hurt? Was it just hurt feelings? Whose feelings were hurt? Both parties?

Is anyone asking why someone would resort to this behavior? Nope. It's easier to ignore!

So we can ban people who don't agree, which is real easy, or we can have a discussion which is work!

Apparently we're taking the easy route, when we should be taking a more difficult road.

See the difference?

One way is helpful, the other way is not.

Oh please. You used your authority as a moderator on another forum to ban two people that you didn't like (which was then undone by the forum admin), solely because you didn't like them, within 24 hours of both of them signing up for that forum.

In other words, the minute you got the authority to do what you wanted, you immediately did that which you are arguing against here.

If you're going to claim the moral high ground on any issue, you have to actually be occupying that ground in the first place. You can't argue one thing one place, and do the opposite at another. You have to be consistent, or the most eloquent arguments will fall on deaf ears.

So what's worse: your mind being blown at the people who are "allowed" to post, or silencing people because they say things you don't like?

Does it occur to you that the moderators here might see things differently than you do...?

Originally Posted by Mef
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Originally Posted by DocBrown
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Originally Posted by Mef
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Originally Posted by Lonestar
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Originally Posted by Mef
Is anyone asking why someone would resort to this behavior? Nope. It's easier to ignore!

Why anyone resorts to this type of behavior baffles me. It quite frankly is unacceptable, at least to me. Do people think because this is a message board about comic books, it is OK to act like that? In any other setting, it would not be tolerated and it should not be here either.

I'm not saying that it is 'acceptable' but it is a product of their overall experience. There is no discussion of why that experience has been terrible or how, moving forward, to improve the experience.

Just coming from a pure service standpoint here, with 15 years in service and people management, you can't just fire a disgruntled employee. What if there are factors involved that you are unaware of. You need to at least have a conversation to figure out why this employee is disgruntled.

Not trying to change the world here, but there is a sort of catharsis involved when talking to like minded individuals about issues that they can understand. I can talk to my wife about comic book grading companies all day, but she's not going to understand the way that others here might. I guess that's why I'm even contributing at all at this point.

In other words, the minute you got the authority to do what you wanted, you immediately did that which you are arguing against here.

If you're going to claim the moral high ground on any issue, you have to actually be occupying that ground in the first place. You can't argue one thing one place, and do the opposite at another. You have to be consistent, or the most eloquent arguments will fall on deaf ears.

So what's worse: your mind being blown at the people who are "allowed" to post, or silencing people because they say things you don't like?

Does it occur to you that the moderators here might see things differently than you do...?

Your reputation as a troll preceded you even before this forum. You came to that forum to troll, and were removed just as you have been on other forums previously. Using yourself as an example is terrible, we all know your M.O.

Originally Posted by Mef
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Originally Posted by DocBrown


Quotes fixed.

So, the question "Does it occur to you that the moderators here might see things differently than you do...?" is a firm "no."

Ignore the substance, make false accusations, and invoke the fallacy of popular appeal to do so.

Is the point not proven?

Though this point will be ignored, I'll repeat it: your "ban" was immediately lifted by the forum admin.

You're not looking for discussion. You're looking for agreement, and destroying those who don't.

Doc.. this is the message people constantly try to get across to you. I'm glad you can explain it, now put it into effect!

Originally Posted by DocBrown
Why don't you slow down and take your time to post, mef, instead of being in such a rush to get a clever response that you can't even format your posts properly...?

Originally Posted by Mef
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Originally Posted by DocBrown
Why don't you slow down and take your time to post, mef, instead of being in such a rush to get a clever response that you can't even format your posts properly...?

While they may be clever (up for discussion), the worst part is they're true.

Originally Posted by BigRig
The boards atmosphere may have changed but so did the customer outlook on the company and the companies reputation and it wasn't for the better

Originally Posted by dpiercy
@BigRig - have you ever contributed to this forum other than to try and sell your very expensive books? From my what I have seen, no. So your really harsh opinions (I have mine too)...what do they mean to folks who actually talk about comics on here? Rhetorical question.

Originally Posted by DocBrown
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Originally Posted by BigRig
The boards atmosphere may have changed but so did the customer outlook on the company and the companies reputation and it wasn't for the better

I support CBCS more now than I did a couple of months ago. I think what they've done are substantial steps in the right direction, both here and in the whole. And, I think that, as someone who regularly interacts with the graded comics community at multiple conventions and elsewhere throughout the year, that the opinion of CBCS HAS improved.

I had issues with how the boards were run.

You know what I didn't do?

Endlessly complain about it on their boards.

You know what I DID do?

Talk to the appropriate parties about it, in the appropriate ways.

There are ways to handle these things, and there are ways not to.