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| Hi all. I have a beautiful copy of ASM #14 first appearance of Green Goblin. There is no chipping, the gloss is fantastic, and the colors are exceptional. However, it unfortunately has three holes punched on the left side of the book. It was clearly intentional, and my guess is that the previous owner filed it away in a binder for safe keeping, seeing that the rest of the comic is in such good shape. How can a defect like this effect the grade of the book? I'm guessing that if it wasn't for the holes, it would be between and 7.0 and an 8.5 It also has a faint ink stamp on the cover that reads acquired in 1964. Could that mean anything? Thanks, Harrison |
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| Binder holes are a pet peeve of mine. That aside and without really seeing the book, I'd imagine it'd bring the book down to the 1.5-2.5 range. They're a pretty devastating flaw since they're essentially pieces missing from every single page. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by dielinfinite I understand that, but I would rather have a 2.5 copy that looks 8.5 than a 2.5 copy that looks 2.5. Do you really think it'll bring it down that low? The holes are rather small. |
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| Sell the comic, keep the binder. | ||
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KingNampa private msg quote post Address this user | |
| In my opinion the book is incomplete and should get graded .5 via CBCS just like they would do if it was missing a page. The book is incomplete missing pieces on every single page. With that said, to own that comic for your collection or as reading copy would be great. But i wouldnt try to get it graded. | ||
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| The things folks did to comics back in the day. SMH | ||
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Logan510 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| You could always send it in and find out or call CBCS and ask to make certain. | ||
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dielinfinite private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @HarRes Maybe a little higher...   |
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KingNampa private msg quote post Address this user | |
@dielinfinite Dear God! Who would do such a thing to a comic.  |
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Quote:Originally Posted by KingNampa It isn't incomplete, it just has holes. The rest of the comic is perfect. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Logan510 I bought it at a Con and brought it to the CBCS booth. It has been submitted |
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RRO private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by HarRes Hole/s and binder hole(s) each by definition make any book incomplete. Please tell me why each of these instances is NOT incomplete. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by RRO Because pages aren't missing |
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KingNampa private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by HarRes Just my opinion. But looks like from dielinfinite's example that CBCS will be more generous on the grade. CGC would probably give it a qualified grade though. Just consider this. If a ad or value stamp is cut out it is considered incomplete right? Would the amount of missing book from the punched holes equal roughly the same surface area of a missing ad or value stamp? I think so. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by KingNampa I have seen, and owned, several books with this same hole-punched problem, front and/or back cover, all of which came from the New York area. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by RRO That's interesting... I live in New York! But what does that have to do with anything? |
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Quote:Originally Posted by HarRes So after seeing the pics of the Sub-Mariner comic, what do you think that grade will be? |
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KingNampa private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @HarRes Could we please see front and back of the asm #14? | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by HarRes Just a coincidence, s'all. |
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HarRes private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by KingNamparnrnI wish I could show you, but I don't have an image. I bought it at a con and handed it to CBCS |
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HarRes private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by HarRes CBCS, rather. Sorry |
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KingNampa private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @HarRes please update when you get it back with the grade, curious to see what they give it. | ||
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HarRes private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by KingNampa I will, but its not going to be for a while. |
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Yikes! If that "machine-gunned" Sub-Mariner can get a 3.0, I wonder what my Fantastic Four Golden Records with one hole would get?    |
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Quote:Originally Posted by TruckJohnson Idk man. This thread is making me confused lol |
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KingNampa private msg quote post Address this user | |
@TruckJohnson i bet 3 likes it would grade as 7.0  |
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HarRes private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by KingNampa lol |
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| Would you rather have a hole punched comic or marker scribbled on cover by child? | ||
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HarRes private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by KingNampa hole punch.... easy |
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Quote:Originally Posted by HarReseven with all the holes punched in like that Sub Mariner? Maybe they will eventually recognize hole punches like tape and just ignore it when grading?? Lol  |
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