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I have an Amazing Fantasy 15 reprint signed by Stan Lee and slabbed by a non-reputable company (I bought it this way...I know). I want to submit it for the VSP promotion and I only want CBCS to crack the slab if they can authenticate the signature. The current slab has no indication of the publication date and I am having a hard time identifying which reprint it is to submit the book. I know I can't show slabs from off-brand graders so I'm just showing the book to see if anyone can help recognize which one this is. This one has no bar codes and no borders around the cover image and shows 12 cent price on the cover. Any help would be appreciated and thanks in advance.   |
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 I don't want to brag, but cashiers are always checking me out.
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power_struggle55 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| very hard to tell which reprint. watch this video. based on it, yours could be a fake reprint. every repornt I see has a very distinct look. like masterworks or facmile. or a completely different cover. if true Id assume the signature is fake. on reddit there is another copy someone is asking with the same look. they all say counterfit. again. likely signature is fake. a fake to look real, with a fake big sig...sell for big bucks |
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Drogio private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Is it possible that it’s a facsimile reprint? The label doesn’t give any indication? | ||
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 Not trying to be an ass since February 12, 2020.
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HulkSmash private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I think you have fake/custom print or a reprint with a repop cover. For the label have any identifiers? | ||
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power_struggle55 private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Drogio no facmile has barcode and modern price |
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power_struggle55 private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by HulkSmash i agree. i looked at known reprints. none look like that. gut says counterfeit. i mean you never said it was legit. but I think it was made to fool idiots. can someone verify sig |
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 Keep your $6.87 bro... not even saving tax with that.
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Cli4dR3D0g private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Ryan4421 Best of luck. I almost posted this auction a couple weeks ago because of the label picture they photoshopped to create the new company CGX. |
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 The apple sauce and pudding were the best part...
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| https://www.beckett-authentication.com/services/signature-review | ||
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Drogio private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by power_struggle55 A bar code and modern price actually disqualifies them as a “facsimile.” Marvel and DC are not using the term correctly and a true facsimile is and EXACT copy.  |
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Ryan4421 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| The label only says Amazing Fantasy 15 facsimile edition and says signed by Stan Lee. | ||
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 To answer your question, no, this is not where the comics go to die.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Ryan4421 It was also a NG slab...looks like he sold a couple of them. Dude sure has a lot of Stan Lee signed stuff |
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Not trying to be an ass since February 12, 2020.
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HulkSmash private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Drogiothey use term in reference to the interior layout and original time period ads, but you’re not wrong  |
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Drogio private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Ryan4421 So it’s an unauthorized replica (true facsimile), most likely.  |
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HulkSmash private msg quote post Address this user | |
If it helps; this would be the closest official facsimile/reprint with a $3.99 cover price |
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Drogio private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Just because it’s a copy, doesn’t mean the signature is fake. Someone could have just had a replica and got SL to sign it. Not sure if cbcs would grade it, but they might verify the signature. But you should contact them and ensure it wouldn’t be rejected as they may not want to even handle a book that violates trademark laws. |
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manfred_spain private msg quote post Address this user | |
Based on the evidence, I suspect it's either an unsanctioned replica or it might be this book... I can't find my copy right now, but I have it in my gallery titled as an Amazing Fantasy #15 Replica Journal Edition. It came sealed originally. My AF15 Gallery https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipM0oa2WhLPz_vx6nTgGAYWF_6vwaAIP_wAuIxfJGK8E81IDtCIIy_gbndO6yGmRiQ?key=bFlrcGJtTE9SREVtQ28tSDJQMUxvSm9EYnotT0dn It was originally available on the Disney website. I found this old link to an article about it... https://www.dismerchandise.com/2020/01/17/spider-man-amazing-fantasy-15-replica-journal-is-available-online/ |
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 -Our Odin-Rest in Peace |
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| Honestly, I'd break it out and check the indicia. Plus, I'd send a picture of the signature for the Beckett $10 guesstimate. Bronte posted the link above. | ||
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-Our Odin- Rest in Peace |
Jesse_O private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Or, you could check every gazillion reprint of AF15 listed on Grand Comics Database. Reprints in Komikai Micro Comics Ultimate Marvel (Spin Master, 2005 series) #[61] - Amazing Fantasy #15 in Marvel Masterworks: The Amazing Spider-Man (Marvel, 2002 series) #1 in Marvel Masterworks: The Amazing Spider-Man (Marvel, 2009 series) #1, #1 in Spider-Man (Egmont, 2010 series) #1/2010 in Spider-Man! (Diamond Comics, 1990 ? series) #DE-590 / 1 [2nd Edition - Black Title] in ما وراء الكون [Ma Waraa al Koun / Beyond the Universe] (بيسات الريح [Bissat al-Rih / Flying Carpet], 1979 series) #137 [partial] in L'Uomo Ragno [Collana Super-Eroi] (Editoriale Corno, 1970 series) #18 (Dicembre 1970) in Origins of Marvel Comics (Simon and Schuster, 1974 series) (1974) in The Amazing Spider-Man (Pocket Books, 1977 series) #[1] (81443) (September 1977) in Spider-Man Winter Special (Marvel UK, 1979 series) #1979 (1979) in Spider-Man: The Secret Story of Marvel's World-Famous Wall Crawler (Ideals Publishing Corp., 1981 series) (1981) in Strange Spécial Origines (Editions Lug, 1981 series) #133 bis (5 janvier 1981) in Marvel Tales (Marvel, 1966 series) #137 [Direct] (March 1982)which is reprinted in Amazing Spider-Man (Federal, 1984 series) #1 in L'Uomo Ragno Classic (Edizioni Star Comics, 1991 series) #1 (Gennaio 1991) [Le copertine sono tratte dalle ristampe di "Marvel Tales" (come specificato dai curatori della rivista). ] in O Espectacular Homem-Aranha (Distri Editora, 1983 series) #2 (Março 1983) in Σπάιντερ Μαν [Spider-Man] (Kabanas Hellas, 1977 series) #167 (Ιούλιος 1984) in Marvel-pocket (Semic, 1984 series) #4/1985; 5 ([oktober] 1985) in The Marvel Saga the Official History of the Marvel Universe (Marvel, 1985 series) #2 (January 1986)which is reprinted in Essential Marvel Saga (Marvel, 2008 series) #1 (2008) in Marvel Masterworks (Marvel, 1987 series) #1 ([November] 1987)which is reprinted in Marvel Klassik (Panini Deutschland, 1998 series) #1 in Marvel Masterworks (Marvel, 1987 series) #1 ([November] 1987) in Σπάιντερ Μαν [Spider-Man] (Kabanas Hellas, 1977 series) #386 (11 Οκτωβρίου 1988) in The Comic Book in America: An Illustrated History (Taylor Publishing Company, 1989 series) (1989) in The Amazing Spider-Man 30th Anniversary Poster Magazine (Marvel, 1992 series) #1 (1992) in Orígenes Marvel (Planeta DeAgostini, 1991 series) #3 ([Febrero 1992]), #3 ([Febrero 1992]) in The Amazing Spider-Man Masterworks (Marvel, 1992 series) #1 (March 1992), #1 (March 1992) in Marvel Milestone Edition: Amazing Fantasy #15 (Marvel, 1992 series) (March 1992) in Edderkoppen (Semic, 1984 series) #7/1992 ([august] 1992) in Spider-Man Classic (Planeta DeAgostini, 1993 series) #1 (Enero 1993)which is reprinted in Marvel Gold. El Asombroso Spiderman: Poder y Responsabilidad (Panini España, 2014 series) (Abril 2014) in Spider-Man Classics (Marvel, 1993 series) #1 (April 1993) in Spider-Man! (Diamond Comics, 1990 ? series) #DE-590 / 1 (1994) in Marvel Limited: Fantastic Firsts (Marvel, 1994 series) (May 1994) in स्पाइडर-मैन [Spaidar-Main] (Diamond Comics, 1990 ? series) #D-1380 (1995) in মাকড়সা মানব [Spider-Man] (Diamond Comics, 1990 ? series) #DB-412 (1996) in The Essential Spider-Man (Marvel, 1996 series) #1 (December 1996) [black and white] in Wiz (Marvel Italia, 1995 series) #14 (Dicembre 1996) in Origins of Marvel Comics Revised Edition (Marvel, 1997 series) (September 1997) in Marvel Masterworks: The Amazing Spider-Man (Marvel, 1998 series) #[1] (December 1998) in Spider-Man Komplett (Panini Deutschland, 1999 series) #v1963#[1] (1999)which is reprinted in Spider-Man Komplett (Panini Deutschland, 1999 series) #v1963#[4] (1999) in Marvel : Les origines (Panini France, 2002 series) #1 (décembre 2002) in Great American Comic Books (Publications International, Ltd., 2001 series) (2001) in Amazing Fantasy Vol. 1 No. 15 [Spider-Man Classics Reprint] (Marvel, 2001 series) (August 2001) in The 100 Greatest Marvels of All Time (Marvel, 2001 series) #10 (December 2001) in Fantastic Firsts (Marvel, 2002 series) (January 2002) in Spider-Man : l'intégrale (Panini France, 2002 series) #1962-1963 (janvier 2002), #1962-1963 (janvier 2002) in Spider-Man (Hjemmet / Egmont, 1999 series) #10/2002 ([oktober] 2002) [0.25 page] in Spiderman: Stan Lee y Steve Ditko (Planeta DeAgostini, 2002 series) #1 (Diciembre 2002), #1 (Diciembre 2002) in Marvel Masterworks: The Amazing Spider-Man (Marvel, 2003 series) #1 [Regular Edition] ([July] 2003) in Biblioteca Marvel: Spiderman (Planeta DeAgostini, 2003 series) #1 (Noviembre 2003), #1 (Noviembre 2003) in Ultimate Spider-Man Collection (Barnes & Noble Books, 2004 series) (2004) in Amazing Fantasy No. 15 [Marvel Legends Reprint] (Marvel, 2005 series) (2005) in Spider-Man: Amazing Fantasy (Marvel, 2005 series) (2005), (2005) in Marvel Visionaries: Stan Lee (Marvel, 2005 series) (February 2005) in Spider-Man Collectible Series (Marvel, 2006 series) #1 ([August 20] 2006) in Amazing Fantasy Omnibus (Marvel, 2007 series) ([August] 2007) in Amazing Fantasy No. 15 [MGA Die-Cast Car] (Marvel, 2007 series) (September 2007) in Marvel Deluxe : Stan Lee (Panini France, 2007 series) #1 (octobre 2007), #1 (octobre 2007) [partially] in The Amazing Spider-Man Omnibus (Marvel, 2007 series) #1 [Jack Kirby] (2007)which is reprinted in O Espetacular Homem-Aranha: Edição Definitiva (Panini Brasil, 2019 series) #1 ([fevereiro] 2019) in The Amazing Spider-Man Omnibus (Marvel, 2007 series) #1 [Fifth Edition, Direct] (2022) in The Amazing Spider-Man Omnibus (Marvel, 2007 series) #1 (2007)which is reprinted in O Espetacular Homem-Aranha: Edição Definitiva (Panini Brasil, 2019 series) #1 ([fevereiro] 2019) in Amazing Fantasy [Old Navy Edition] (Marvel, 2009 series) #15 (August 2009) in Marvel Classic (Panini France, 2011 series) #1 (février 2011) in Marvel Firsts: The 1960s (Marvel, 2011 series) (2011) in Amazing Fantasy #15: Spider-Man! (Marvel, 2012 series) (August 2012) [Recolored.], (August 2012) [Recolored.] in The Ultimate Graphic Novels Collection - Classic (Hachette Partworks, 2014 series) #1 - Marvel Origins: The 60s (January 2014) in Marvel Gold. El Asombroso Spiderman: Poder y Responsabilidad (Panini España, 2014 series) (Abril 2014), (Abril 2014) in Amazing Spider-Man Epic Collection (Marvel, 2013 series) #1 - Great Power ([October] 2014) in Marvel 75th Anniversary Omnibus (Marvel, 2014 series) ([November] 2014) in Die offizielle Marvel-Comic-Sammlung (Hachette [DE], 2013 series) #1 - Marvel Origins: Die Sechzigerjahre (März 2015) in Amazing Fantastic Incredible: A Marvelous Memoir (Simon and Schuster, 2015 series) (October 2015)which is reprinted in Amazing Fantastic Incredible: A Marvelous Memoir (Simon and Schuster, 2019 series) (January 2019) in L'ère des Comics Marvel 1961-1978 (Taschen, 2017 series) (2017) in True Believers: Amazing Fantasy Starring Spider-Man (Marvel, 2017 series) #1 (September 2017) in Marvel Visionaries: Stan Lee (Marvel, 2019 series) (2019) in Amazing Fantasy #15 Facsimile Edition (Marvel, 2019 series) (December 2019) in Ditko Is... Amazing! King-Size (Marvel, 2019 series) (2019) in Marvel: The First 80 Years (Titan, 2020 series) (November 2020) in The Marvel Comics Library: Spider-Man (Taschen, 2022 series) #1 - 1962–1964 (2021) in Coleção Clássica Marvel (Panini Brasil, 2021 series) #1 - Homem-Aranha 1 (março 2021) in Mighty Marvel Masterworks: The Amazing Spider-Man (Marvel, 2021 series) #1 - With Great Power... (2021) in Amazing Fantasy (Faraos Cigarer; Fahrenheit, 2022 series) #15 (2022) in The Amazing Spider-Man (Penguin Classics Marvel Collection) (Penguin Random House, 2022 series) (2022), (2022), (2022) [cropped] in The Best Marvel Stories by Stan Lee Omnibus (Marvel, 2022 series) (2022) in Biblioteca Marvel (Panini España, 2022 series) #4 - El Asombroso Spiderman 1 ([Enero] 2023) |
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 I hear their hourly rate is outrageous!
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| BTW, That signature, if not xerox copy, is clearly legit. Id crack it and send it in for verification. | ||
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Ryan4421 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Thanks for the help everyone. The Disney one and the 3.99 version are the closest ones but they look a bit too glossy and modern. Also, both of those were printed after Stan died. This book looks almost like it's made out of newspaper. | ||
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SteveRicketts private msg quote post Address this user | |
| We do not grade or encapsulate counterfeit comics. If it is an authorized reprint by Marvel Comics, we'd be glad to help you. Otherwise, we would have to pass. I can't guarantee that we could identify it without taking it out of the case it is in, so submit it at your own risk. | ||
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Madman private msg quote post Address this user | |
| This might be a reprint cover on a facsimile reprit to make it look closer to the original. Here is an example: https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/facsimile-reprint-covers-amazing-171 Also, take a closer look at how the pages look from the outside (yellowish, powdery,signs of the book being handled) |
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Madman private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Staples also look kind of shiny | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Madman I have seen such online. taking a facmile and giving it a more true cover. graded as a NG. that could be what we are seeing. every reprint ive seen online does not match the cover. masterworks is the most obvious with the silver frame (with masterworks on the frame), facsmile we all know. others have a different name (like Spiderman classics) and/or a different image |
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Quote:Originally Posted by manfred_spain Doubtful it's that. According to the description for the journal, it's "Approx. 160 pages" with "Lined pages with interspersed comics panels." That's basically a notebook.  And the journal back cover:  |
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